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Its time to look to GOD instead of the GOP as Kentucky clerk Kim Davis faces her contempt hearing
9/3/2015 | Self

Posted on 09/03/2015 4:52:22 AM PDT by Nextrush

"......maybe we're not doing all we can, living up to His Holy Word, cause phonies have come and wrong's been done, even killing in Jesus name and if you been burned here's what I've learned, the Lord's not the one to blame...."

"How Can They Live Without Jesus"-Keith Green

The trashing of Rowan County, Kentucky Chief Clerk Kim Davis's past reminds me of my own past.

I'm a drunk thankful to God as I understand God for another day of sobriety. While I was drunk, I used to use God's name a lot, in vain as it were.

I said crazy things, I posted crazy things here on FR but I'm still here, able to say I was wrong.

I think some of my past actions or words may have hurt some people who happen to be gay and I know I was wrong to have said or done those things.

I may not identify as LGBTQ etc. etc. but I sure do identify with feelings of alienation and a sense that other people were out to get me like those 'religious hyprocrites trying to force their religion on me'. Like many who identify as gay I have been hurt in real or imagined ways by religious people and or clergy.

Over the years of my religious hypocrisy and drunkenness I took in media that massaged my resentments and hatreds towards those who cause the world's problems like bigger government, higher taxes, more spending, more debt, abortion and so on....the Democrats...the liberals....the liberal media....and they offered me a solution...the GOP.

I'm sure religious folks in Kentucky got the same pitch I did and were told to vote for Republicans like Senator Mitch McConnell and former Senator Jim Bunning because they were all for 'family values' and 'freedom'. Well, soon we may find out how much that means when Bunning's son, US District Judge David Bunning, holds a contempt hearing for Davis and decides if she will be penalized for refusing to issue marriage licenses to gay couples.

Bunning's mother tells the media that he "disagrees with the Supreme Court's decision" but "he will uphold the law".

The Republican State Senate leader in Kentucky appears to be trying to find a way to sidestep an act of civil disobedience over gay marriage from taking hold.

Senate President Robert Stivers is asking Judge Bunning to withhold his ruling that Davis has to issue gay marriage licenses until legislation can be passed to exempt her from having to issue marriage licenses.

It makes sense to me for the GOP to try to prevent any civil disobedience controversy from disrupting their political agenda just as JFK's Democrats tried to sidestep Dr. Martin Luther King's civil disobedience campaign's in the 1960's.

We'll see if that holds any water as events begin to unfold later today at Judge Bunning's courtroom in Covington, Kentucky, just across the Ohio River from Cincinnati.

Another note, some are putting out posts along the lines of 'she's a Democrat' and 'this is a trap for conservatives'.

Are these from Republican Party headquarters, from folks who don't want civil disobedience to disrupt their next election plan to deceive grassroots conservative in general and religious conservatives in particular?

The LGBTQ activists have been devious and tricky as they've waged their relentless campaign to legalize gay marriage, but I'll set that aside for now.

In case you folks at GOP HQ haven't heard by now, we at the grassroots don't want Republicans caving in or avoiding fights anymore. We want a fight. Many like myself want it to be a non violent one, others who knows?

We long for elected officials like Kim Davis who will practice civil disobedience and have had it with the fake conservatism and utter lack of meaningful actions exhibited by virtually all elected Republican officials.

We are Fed Up Beyond All Recognition.

God Bless All from Kim Davis to Judge Bunning to the plantiffs in this case, but something just has to give in this country because the politicians have failed.


TOPICS: Front Page News; Government; US: Kentucky
KEYWORDS: belongsinchat; gaymarriage; homosexualagenda; homosexualmarriage
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1 posted on 09/03/2015 4:52:22 AM PDT by Nextrush
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To: Nextrush
Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other.

-John Adams
2 posted on 09/03/2015 4:55:39 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Pride goes before destruction, and a haughty spirit before a fall.)
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To: cripplecreek

That is why the levers of self-government ought be denied to those who are neither moral nor religious. No one should be registered to vote unless they pass some rigorous tests in those regards. Self-government is fundamental to every privilege a free and prosperous citizen enjoys. There are some 100 million people in the USA who, by virtue of placing Barack Hussein into office, should be stripped of their voting privilege.


3 posted on 09/03/2015 5:03:03 AM PDT by Fester Chugabrew (Even the compassion of the wicked is cruel.)
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To: Fester Chugabrew

Our constitution is based in Judeo Christian ideology. When people lived lives built within that framework there were few laws needed. As we set morality aside there is an ever increasing need for laws and a growing government to manage and enforce them.


4 posted on 09/03/2015 5:14:32 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Pride goes before destruction, and a haughty spirit before a fall.)
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To: cripplecreek
"Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other."

... like demonicrats and other genocidal-murdering, traitorous scum.

5 posted on 09/03/2015 5:18:14 AM PDT by Carl Vehse (es)
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To: Nextrush; P-Marlowe

Excellent article, Nextrush. Thanks.

The Kentucky legislature is right on the money. There needs to be a new law to replace the law that was struck down.

We all were sinners and are sinners and our sins were forgiven by Jesus’ sacrifice. “And not ours only, but also the sins of the whole world.”


6 posted on 09/03/2015 5:23:00 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! True Supporters of our Troops PRAY for their Victory!)
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To: cripplecreek

Amen!

Unfortunately, America has been overrun by the “any other” type of people from the 3rd world.

2 Peter 2:12 talks about what type of people the majority of “americans” make up now.

John Adams was wise beyond his years!


7 posted on 09/03/2015 5:26:41 AM PDT by Roman_War_Criminal (This Hispanic wants a wall, the National Guard, and turrets guarding our border)
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To: cripplecreek

Yes. Time for laws to deny the voting franchise to those who do not subscribe to Judaeo-Christian parameters. That means those who *advocate* for deviance. License to vote should include rigorous testing in civics and proof of good behavior (within reason). Same holds for anyone who would practice law or medicine in our country.


8 posted on 09/03/2015 5:43:04 AM PDT by Fester Chugabrew (Even the compassion of the wicked is cruel.)
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To: Fester Chugabrew

>(within reason)

Don’t go all soft on us, Chug.


9 posted on 09/03/2015 5:54:21 AM PDT by Lisbon1940 (No full-term governors)
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To: Fester Chugabrew

8 bonum est confidere in Domino quam confidere in homine
9 bonum est sperare in Domino quam sperare in principibus
(Psalmi 117:8-9Biblia Sacra Vulgata)

8 It is good to confide in the Lord, rather than to have confidence in man.
9 It is good to trust in the Lord, rather than to trust in princes.
(Psalm 117:8-9Douay-Rheims 1899 American Edition)


10 posted on 09/03/2015 5:55:06 AM PDT by paterfamilias
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To: xzins

One of the biggest unmentioned issues here is that while the KY Senate is dominated by Republicans, the House and Executive Branch offices are held by Democrats. Who are making a little bit of noise but otherwise trying to keep as far away from this as possible.

Certainly not using the powers they do have to go after her. The AG can haul her up on criminal misconduct charges for instance. Except he knows he’ll never be elected Governor if he does.

The ostrich-playing if the Democrats here should be just as big an issue as the refusal to issue licenses.


11 posted on 09/03/2015 6:02:18 AM PDT by tanknetter
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To: cripplecreek

“Render, then, unto Cesear those things that are Cesear’s...”

Jesus of Nazarus

She works for a secular entity, takes her wages for following their rules.


12 posted on 09/03/2015 6:02:26 AM PDT by jstaff
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To: tanknetter

Kentucky is a Baptist, Church of Christ, old timey Methodist zone for the most part. They attack Christianity at their peril in that state.


13 posted on 09/03/2015 6:04:01 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! True Supporters of our Troops PRAY for their Victory!)
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To: jstaff
She was elected. Her constituents like her.
14 posted on 09/03/2015 6:10:40 AM PDT by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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To: Nextrush
Bunning's mother tells the media that he "disagrees with the Supreme Court's decision" but "he will uphold the law".

He will uphold the chain of command. The "Law" is being broken.

15 posted on 09/03/2015 6:14:05 AM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: Nextrush; xzins

So when is Obama going to go to court to explain to a judge why he refuses to deport illegal aliens and for inviting them to the white house and to be given more rights that American Citizens?

This woman has violated no law and no oath. Obama violates his oath and the law every day.

I know of no criminal statute that this woman has violated. Yet she faces criminal penalties for not doing what she is no longer authorized under Kentucky statutes to do.


16 posted on 09/03/2015 6:15:30 AM PDT by P-Marlowe (Trump - because sometimes you need a big @$$hole to eliminate all the cr@p.)
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To: xzins

If Judge Bunning is smart he’ll cite her for contempt and slap her with a fine of $1000-$2000 per business day for each day she refuses to issue licenses.

You’d see a reaction from Christian Conservatives along the lines of what happened with that baker, pizza parlor, etc: you’d have a crowd funding site that would quickly raise enough money to pay the fine for YEARS.

And there’d really be nothing the Left could do about it. The ball for all other action (removing her from office or indicting her) would be dropped squarely into the laps of the Democrats.


17 posted on 09/03/2015 6:16:19 AM PDT by tanknetter
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To: jstaff
She works for a secular entity, takes her wages for following their rules.

So did the Nazis, but we didn't accept the "We were just following orders" excuse.

18 posted on 09/03/2015 6:17:42 AM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: Nextrush
I believe she's overestimating her role. There are bogus heterosexual marriages, too. Those marriages would be legal in this country but not "real" marriages in the sense of the sacrament of matrimony. But it's not the fault of the clerk who issues the license. Nor would it be with same sex marriages.

She can issue the licenses, believing it's something God won't approve, or quit.

It's like a doctor being forced to perform abortions. He or she would need to find work somewhere else.

19 posted on 09/03/2015 6:53:01 AM PDT by Dilbert56
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To: P-Marlowe

I really don’t see much hope for conservatism these days. The utter lack of conviction on the part of so called conservatives is disheartening.

Fortunately God will judge us as individuals no matter what happens to the nation.


20 posted on 09/03/2015 7:29:18 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Pride goes before destruction, and a haughty spirit before a fall.)
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