Posted on 08/23/2015 1:03:54 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
If you look on the surface, one might think that the polls indicate that Donald Trump is the best candidate to go up against the Democrats in the general election. As history has shown, the ability to get support within ones own party is not always an indicator of ability to win in the general election. In fact, one can argue that either Rick Santorum or Newt Gingrich were more likely to defeat President Obama in 2012, though well never know.
Before we get into the list of candidates, lets look at general election winning attributes that work in the general election. Its different than the primaries for a few reasons. First, there are more people paying attention to the two candidates going for the goal than a plethora of candidates vying for the nod. Second, the ability to go head-to-head is different from the ability to stand out in a pack. Lastly, the ability to fend off tumultuous attacks from the other side is imperative and less prevalent during the primaries.
The Attributes
Lets look at the seven attributes required to win the general election.
◾Promises: Theres always a punchline attached whenever people bring up campaign promises, but they resonate. Looking at the campaign promises of the last three Presidents, we can see that many of them were not met despite two terms each, but that doesnt stop the American voters from holding onto hope that someone will come along who keeps their promises.
◾Effectiveness: The Republicans almost had President Obama during the last election based upon ineffectiveness. His campaign was able to spin it to give them another term to achieve their goals. Again, the lack of effectiveness of both Mitt Romney and Sen. John McCain (R-AZ) 53% helped to secure their second place finishes in the general election.
◾Upbringing: History counts in the primaries. People want someone who came from humble beginnings, who worked their way to the top and who had experiences that echoed the plight of the average American.
◾Skeletons: In American culture, it seems as if the skeletons are more easily forgiven now than they were in the past. The last three Presidents all had skeletons that should have sank them before their second term, but if something the size of John Edwards or Gary Harts ever comes to light for a candidate, this can play a role.
◾Debate Skills: There was hope for the Republicans after the first debate between Romney and Obama. The polls shifted after an excellent performance by Romney compared to a mediocre showing by President Obama. The President turned it around for by the second debate, but one still has to wonder of Gingrich couldnt have done much better. This time around, the likely Democratic candidates are all poor debaters other than Martin OMalley, so this particular trait might be able to seal the deal.
◾Charisma: Bill Clinton won on charisma. Barack Obama has even more. This can definitely play a role in the primaries, particularly with an electorate that has youthful voters growing in ranks.
◾Polarity: Those who polarize the electorate are the ones that usually win. The left knows this. For some reason, the Republican Establishment has failed to grasp this, force feeding us Romneys, McCains, and Doles. George W. Bush, Clinton, and Obama were both polarizing. The more the other side hates you, the easier it is to win.
The Best Shots at a GOP Victory
With all of that established, its important to remember the wild card in this equation. Im not one who believes that Hillary Clinton is going to be nominated and Im pretty sure Bernie Sanders will fade over time. This means that its wide open and the opponent has a dramatic effect on the who would be more effective against them. For example, someone like Ben Carson would fair better against Clinton than others while Sen. Ted Cruz (R-TX) 100% would be the perfect foil against Sanders. We cant make decisions based upon this factor, so well have to leave it out.
Heres how I see the top GOP candidates in reverse order of their ability to win the general election.
5. Donald Trump
Despite his large lead in the early polls, his no-holds-barred style will be revealed as false and his chevalier attitude will be shown to be a front for a man that is little more than an egomaniac. Still, he appeals to the uninformed voters and there are plenty of those out there so he would have a chance. His debate skills are questionable and he likely has several large skeletons in his closet that the Democrats are holding until after the primaries. His shining lights that put him into the top five is that hes polarizing, effective (in business, at least), and has the type of charisma that appeals to many.
4. Sen. Marco Rubio (R-FL) 92%
Rubio seems to be 8-12 years premature in his run. Hes a rising star with a strong upbringing and the potential to be a great debater, but hes still green. His charisma is strong at first but he seems to wane after you hear him speak a few times. If he can make powerful promises that are achievable, he may be a strong choice, particularly against Clinton or OMalley.
3. Sen. Rand Paul (R-KY) 87%
If it werent for Donald Trump, Paul would be the great polarizing force amongst the candidates. Unfortunately, his reputation may not be as polar as his actual beliefs; of all the candidates his promises and effectiveness might be too far off the map, particularly when it comes to foreign relations. He was a disappointment during the first GOP debate, taking shots at Chris Christie and others that didnt paint him in a great light. Still, he should have the charisma to win and his upbringing as Ron Pauls son can be an ace in the hole.
2. Ben Carson
If it werent for some skeletons in his closet, he might be the best shot the GOP has. Im still undecided about whether his soft spoken nature is a positive or a negative. It really depends on how profound his promises are. His biggest upside is that his upbringing is the epitome of the American dream presenting a man from a poor family that rose to greatness through hard work, intelligence, and perseverance. Depending on who gets the nomination, Carson might be the ideal running mate.
1. Sen. Ted Cruz (R-TX) 100%
Of all the GOP candidates, Cruz is the most complete package. His early promises are resonating. He has proven that he will take a shot at fulfilling his promises and while he hasnt been successful, it demonstrates that he can be effective if given the power of the Presidency. His upbringing is nearly ideal, second only to Carsons as a great story. If there were big skeletons, we likely would have seen them already. With the charisma of a Southern Baptist preacher and debate skills that match any candidate in recent memory, the only other criteria to be checked off is one that hes known for as Senator. The guy polarizes in a way that galvanizes. Thats why he is the best chance the GOP has of securing the White House in 2016.
The Others
Clearly missing is the #2 in most polls, Jeb Bush. He cannot win, not against Clinton, not against Sanders not against anyone. The Bush family baggage aside, he has such negative charisma that its a wonder hes Ws brother.
Carly Fiorina is interesting and came close to cracking the top 5, but she hasnt been exceptionally effective. There are a couple of big skeletons in her leadership closet, most notably merging HP with Compaq before laying off 30,000 US employees. Her upbringing could be a negative as well, having attended a private school in London and dropping out of UCLA Law School after one semester.
Scott Walker is a winner but under the scrutiny that comes with being on the national stage rather than just the Wisconsin stage, he looks like someone who would not withstand the barrage from the left if nominated. This is a shame because he has some great ideas, but hes not the right candidate to put up against the Democrats.
None of the rest really have a good chance of winning.
Its far from scientific but its a thought-out analysis of what we can expect from the candidates. Complacency is the killer in this equation. The presence of weak Democratic candidates is no excuse for not selecting the best possible GOP candidate. The countrys future is hanging by a thread. We cant afford to lose this one.
I said some time ago that if you could put Ted into Rubio's body it would make a big difference. It shouldn't matter but it does.
#1. Trump
#2. Cruz
No one else has a chance to win the general election. Trump can easily do it Cruz is iffy.
Ask yourself why they would do that, then launch into a hissy fit maybe that will get them back on the Cruz or Lose train.
That might help - to me he does not look trustworthy.
Sorry, I’ve always had trouble following directions.... just ask my wife!
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Thank you Onyx.
Thanks Vette6387.
I’ll give you an example of something Trump has been skewered over. Abortion. Check this out from over four years ago.
Check the date at the top.
http://www.lifenews.com/2011/04/08/donald-trump-explains-conversion-to-pro-life-side-on-abortion/
Cruz would make one of, if not the best V.P.s in the nation’s history IMO.
Cruz is going to need more than just FReepers voting for him, and that's his problem.
I'd rather see Ted Cruz on the Supreme Court as Ruth Bader Ginsburg's replacement.
And we didn't field any before him either. Ford, Nixon and Eisenhower were moderates. Goldwater was a libertarian.
Drew68, you’re leaning in the right direction, but I’d rather see him be with Trump for 8, then be president for 8, and then move to the SCOTUS.
He would be an incredible asset to Trump, advising on SCOTUS and Congressional matters. He’s also a strong Constitutionalist, which could keep Trump from making mistakes.
I think Trump is the right guy, but I don’t claim he’s perfect. These two make an incredible team. Trump teaches him how to be a great CEO, and Cruz teaches him how to deal effectively with Congress and the SCOTUS.
Tell me you wouldn’t want Cruz there advising Trump when the first, second, third openings come up.
True, people think that because of Reagan, the GOP has always been a conservative party. That is not the case. Reagan was an outlier.
Agreed. As I look back, I realize I voted for a number of men I would have a great deal of problems with today.
Pure fantasy. Has Trump said that will be his cabinet?
He won't even get some FReepers votes. Neither will Rubio, or Jindal.
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I agree that Cruz should be the #1 choice though.....GO CRUZ!!!
So he’d be no different than most Republicans? Wisconsin isn’t nearly as important as Ohio and Florida. The labor thing could hurt him in Ohio though, but it isn’t like any other Republican would be viewed as better on that issue by those who would care.
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