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The FDA Just Approved OxyContin To Be Prescribed To Children
zero hedge ^ | 8/16/15 | tyler durden

Posted on 08/16/2015 3:14:35 PM PDT by Nachum

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To: Dr. Bogus Pachysandra

You can not have experienced extreme pain and be against using pain meds. That would be inhuman. So I expect anybody opposed to pain meds for extreme pain has never experienced it for weeks and months on end.


61 posted on 08/16/2015 5:40:45 PM PDT by jwalsh07
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To: jwalsh07

I agree. Extreme pain should be treated,,,, but also managed carefully.


62 posted on 08/16/2015 5:43:19 PM PDT by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra (Don't touch that thing Don't let anybody touch that thing!I'm a Doctor and I won't touch that thing!)
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To: FirstFlaBn

I spotted it... wondering at the “logic” of “OH! I only took a partial dose”

If I made those pills I’d put something truly horrible tasting in the core. To stop such nonsense.


63 posted on 08/16/2015 5:46:10 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets

So many people are addicted to pain killers. After a surgery I had, a doctor gave me a 30 day supply of Vicodin when all I really needed was 10 days (not even that much, really). It’s been over prescribed.


64 posted on 08/16/2015 5:48:53 PM PDT by virgil (The evil that men do lives after them)
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To: eyeamok

I was being sarcastic. Pain is a personal thing and no one can tell you how bad it is. These anecdotes about one’s own pain and how it covers everyone is stupid. It’s like “What is the best barbeque?”, entirely meaningless and only applying to individual taste. Excruciating pain to one person can be endurable to another. If someone is in excruciating pain give them what they need to relieve it. I have been there, recovered and I’m not an addict.


65 posted on 08/16/2015 5:49:18 PM PDT by Starstruck (I'm usually sarcastic. Deal with it.)
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To: Catsrus
Better that those children writhe in agony after cancer or back surgery or amputation or a car accident or mouth surgery amiright?

If you can't handle it, no one should get it. Is that your theory?

Are you a graduate of Hollywood Upstairs Medical College?

66 posted on 08/16/2015 5:55:04 PM PDT by mountainbunny (Faithless is he that says farewell when the road darkens ~ JR.R. Tolkien)
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To: mountainbunny

You seem truly ignorant of the addictions this will cause - not to mention that many parents will take these pills for themselves and also sell them on the street. You are one ill-informed, sick puppy.


67 posted on 08/16/2015 6:01:31 PM PDT by Catsrus (M)
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To: Jumper
How many people here have ever actually taken this drug for pain for any length of time?

Took it from December through mid-May a while back while undergoing removal of a tumor, treatment, and reconstruction of my gums and palate. More than 20 procedures in about 22 weeks. It was not fun. Stopped taking them about 10 days after the last surgery, and was fine. Disposed of the leftovers in coffee grounds in the garbage.

Before that for about 8-9 months. Stopped within a few days of resolution of degenerative back problem. Disposed of in coffee grounds in garbage and didn't even need aspirin at that point. No addiction.

68 posted on 08/16/2015 6:13:27 PM PDT by mountainbunny (Faithless is he that says farewell when the road darkens ~ JR.R. Tolkien)
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To: Nachum

I teach in an urban high school. This won’t end well.


69 posted on 08/16/2015 6:16:18 PM PDT by goodwithagun (My gun has killed fewer people than Ted Kennedy's car.)
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To: Catsrus
You seem truly ignorant of the addictions this will cause - not to mention that many parents will take these pills for themselves and also sell them on the street. You are one ill-informed, sick puppy.

You are one cruel, morally weak, thoughtless jerk if you want to create public policy based on what "might" happen.

Let's ban all drugs that may cause addiction. Starting with OcyContin and Morphine for cancer patients. Let those sickos writhe in pain, right?

Especially since, as you say, parents and caregivers may become addicted. Better to have patients in agony than risk caregivers getting high in your world.

Been a caregiver to family members who needed opiates. It never occurred to me to take their medications. Ever.

Under your "theory" we should ban guns and alcohol, too. Those can fall into the wrong hands and be horribly misused, too. And a whole never ending host of things.

Thanks but no thanks for your liberal handwringing and concern trolling.

70 posted on 08/16/2015 6:35:13 PM PDT by mountainbunny (Faithless is he that says farewell when the road darkens ~ JR.R. Tolkien)
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To: mountainbunny

They took away my Vicodin for a lifelong bad shoulder, but my 16 year old can get Oxy for a hockey boo boo.

Nice.


71 posted on 08/16/2015 6:50:11 PM PDT by EQAndyBuzz ("Hillary, you magnificent b**ch! I read your book!")
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To: mountainbunny

Liberal hand wringing is what you are doing. Just because you didn’t take someone else’s meds, doesn’t mean that others won’t or don’t. Buy yourself a clue, then come back with some real statistics. You are the one being mean and cruel to saddle children with such strong pain meds, not to mention the addictions they will develop. Take your trolling elsewhere., it’s quite evident you don’t notice what is going on in American society.


72 posted on 08/16/2015 6:54:17 PM PDT by Catsrus (M)
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To: Nachum
Like you, OxyContin give me weird side effects. I had my shoulder operated on and was not allowed to move my shoulder for 14 days. They gave me OxyContin for the pain; which was considerable. I took one pill and I felt like a squirrel on speed. I could not concentrate (my mind was racing from one thought to another), I wanted to move, and the clock was moving so slow.

When it came time to take another pill, I switched to aspirin. The aspirin cut the edge off the pain and I did not have to live through weird side effects.

73 posted on 08/16/2015 7:01:09 PM PDT by fini
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To: Starstruck

I have been there, recovered and I’m not an addict.
Same here, which is why I rarely use anything for pain, that pic was 36 years ago.


74 posted on 08/16/2015 7:37:03 PM PDT by eyeamok
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To: Nachum

This is NOT good! I had my first total knee replacement 14 months ago and my second eight months ago. I was on both Oxycontin and Oxycodone after each surgery. The first surgery I made a bad mistake and went “cold turkey” off the Oxycontin after only six weeks and I had one of the most miserable two weeks of my life. I will not describe the symptoms of the withdrawal but it was not good and I lost over ten pounds in weight.

Eight weeks after my second knee replacement I went off the stuff gradually, taking smaller doses over a course of six weeks and I still had some of those withdrawal symptoms, just less severe.

Letting children have this stuff is not going to end well. It took a lot of resolve to not go back on that Oxycontin but I did it, twice. My surgeon told me there were many people who took months to ween themselves off and some got hooked, and they were adults. Children do not have the mental capacity to do the same so we will create a larger generation of addicts.


75 posted on 08/16/2015 8:41:57 PM PDT by OldMissileer (Atlas, Titan, Minuteman, PK. Winners of the Cold War)
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To: oh8eleven
I decided to take 1/4 dose of the OxyContin and for about 4-6 hours I felt like I was drugged and in another world.

You aren't supposed to break them. They're timed released, which is defeated when you break them into pieces.

76 posted on 08/16/2015 8:53:48 PM PDT by P-Marlowe (Resistance to Tyrants is obedience to God)
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To: HiTech RedNeck
That is going to let the core out, like crushing will. Fairer would be an account that followed “taking a single tablet.”

Yep. My Orthopedic Surgeon told me in no uncertain terms to not cut the Oxycontin pills as they are time released and cutting them would be bad. He did say I could cut the Oxycodone pills he prescribed and I did so as needed.

The Oxycodone pills did not affect me the same as those darned Oxycontin.

77 posted on 08/16/2015 8:54:09 PM PDT by OldMissileer (Atlas, Titan, Minuteman, PK. Winners of the Cold War)
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To: Nachum
If you took a half a pill you took it wrong.

The pill is designed so the medicine releases slowly. Cutting it in half means that you are going to get an immediate release and the accompanying rush.

Always check with your doctor before cutting a pill in half. Usually it is fine but sometimes the pill is designed for slow release or for the medication to be released in the intestines rather then the stomach.

78 posted on 08/16/2015 8:55:53 PM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (Proud Infidel, Gun Nut, Religious Fanatic and Freedom Fiend)
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To: Jumper
How many people here have ever actually taken this drug for pain for any length of time?...I was given some after having four wisdom teeth removed in a single session, 10 to be exact. I took them and they numbed the pain, but the only effect I noted was a brief fluttering of my eye lashes.

In the past 14 months I have had both of my knees replaced. I was on 40mg Oxycontin twice per day and 30mg of Oxycodone three times per day for eight weeks after each replacement. That is much longer than your ten pills but much shorter than some people have been prescribed. Also, those are pretty high doses but knee replacements are not fun and are major surgeries.

I never felt high or other effects but it messed with my short term memory and made me a bit lethargic now and then. The memory part was frustrating as I would be in Physical Therapy and they would tell me what to do and I would then turn around and have to ask them again. They were so very patient and nice with me and told me the short term memory was being affected by the pain killers and they dealt with that all the time.

I did not get mentally addicted and even though I am pretty healthy and have a strong personality my body became addicted to the Oxycontin and I had physical and some mental withdrawal symptoms. It was not pleasant at all but my mental makeup allowed me to keep going through the ordeal. My surgeon told me that I did not have an addictive personality and that about 75% of people are the same. The other 25% are big concerns as they are the ones who get addicted and do not have the mental makeup to get off the pills.

The high power stuff affects a person's body in ways they do not even know until they try to get off the stuff

79 posted on 08/16/2015 9:12:51 PM PDT by OldMissileer (Atlas, Titan, Minuteman, PK. Winners of the Cold War)
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To: Jumper

Took me 2 unpleasant days to recover after I stopped taking Norco after my open heart surgery.

I didn’t feel any pain and was very happy while taking it.


80 posted on 08/16/2015 9:25:02 PM PDT by <1/1,000,000th%
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