Posted on 08/14/2015 7:10:53 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
The clearest similarity between Trump and Black Lives Matter is the havoc they might cause in the general election.
After reading most of the Donald Trump is the Republicans Bernie Sanders think pieces from the last week, I am left believing that the analogy is fundamentally flawed. The basic notion is that both Sanders and Trump represent the angry and unpredictable wings of their respective parties. This is doubtless true of Trump, but is it true of Sanders? It probably isnt. In fact, Donald Trump is more similar to the Black Lives Matter (BLM) movement, in theory and in practice, than he is to Sanders in several important ways.
The clearest similarity between Trump and BLM is the havoc they might cause in the general election. A Trump third-party run could destroy the GOP nominee; likewise, a significant drop in black support and turnout could doom any Democrat. Both Trump and BLM are very aware that they hold these cards, and both are playing them effectively.
Bernie Sanders is a career politician who will be a good soldier come the convention and the general election. He will make a stirring speech, in which he praises the moderate as the only sensible choice. He will stump for the nominee and his supporters will go with him. Sanders is playing a very traditional role in national Democratic politics. One played by Dean, Bradley, and Tsongas in the past. Trump is not playing that role, nor is BLM, neither of which have committed to supporting either partys eventual candidate.
Tensions Between Trump Supporters And The GOP Base Are Escalating
This fear that a vital presidential election could be undermined is resulting in an increasingly nasty tension between mainstream supporters of the GOP and Trump supporters. This tension isnmirrored on the Left by stalwart Democrats and BLM activists. There is no such tension between Sanders and Clinton supporters. Sanders isnt going to cause hurt feelings. Trump and BLM already have.
Mending these wounds wont be easy on either side. How far will the GOP go to accommodate Trump and his loud loyalists? How willing will the Democrats be to run a national election centered on BLMs demands to destroy white supremacy?
Part of the difficulty for both party establishments is that Trump and BLM are very light on policy and heavy on emotional appeals. Both focus on how broken our country is. For Trump its the American dream is dead, for BLM its the country is based on and steeped in white supremacy. As many have pointed out, Trumps appeal is based on burning down the establishment. So is BLMs. In both cases this can lead to a hopelessness among their supporters that is poisonous to the positive message presidential candidates must pronounce.
There is a long time until Election Day, but right now it is difficult to see hardline Trump supporters embracing Bush or Rubio. BLM activists dont seem much closer to closing ranks with Clinton or Sanders. There are two essential demographics in play here.
For Republicans, the working class, white male was the missing link in 2012. It is a segment of the population that the GOP must motivate more effectively than Romney did. This group is Trumps bread and butter. For the Obama-era Democratic coalition, black turnout made the difference between presidential victories and midterm congressional shellackings. Right now, BLM has enormous sway over this group.
It is the direct appeal to these respective demographic groups that scares the party establishments. Swaying independents is meaningless for both sides if they fail to secure these key blocs. Thats why right now both primaries are being driven by these non-traditional political forces.
No Republican candidate can avoid being asked about Trump, and all must respond to his wild, off-the-cuff rhetoric. While this gives them the chance to appear level-headed and reasonable, it also sucks the oxygen out of the campaign. No other Republican has been able to bring forth the issues and agendas they want to talk about. As for Clinton, Sanders, and OMalley, each has been made to kowtow to a radical black social and political movement in ways that, for obvious reasons, President Obama is immune to.
Both Are Using Racist Rhetoric
The final, and very important link between Trump and BLM is the over-the-top racial rhetoric employed by both. Trumps recent statements about Mexican immigrants and past comments about blacks would disqualify any other GOP candidate. In fact, among the majority of voters in both parties it probably already has.
But for Trump supporters, his racist comments are a big part of his appeal. Every time Trump asserts that political correctness is the biggest problem facing the country, his supporters and everyone else know exactly what he means.
For the relatively small number of white voters who feel that the pendulum of racial justice has swung too far, Trump is a champion. His candidacy promises not only to staunch the flow of brown people into the United States, but to give cover to white racial grievance in general.
BLM is playing almost exactly the same role in the Democratic primary. Hijacking a Bernie Sanders rally and telling thousands of Seattles most progressive, white people that they are racist sends a very similar message. BLM accuses Democrats of failing to accept that our countrys biggest problem is white supremacy. Trump is telling his supporters, and the electorate at large, that the country has gone to hell. BLM is telling them it always has been hell. In both cases, race and ethnicity are central to the message.
How Much More Damage Will We See?
How each party handles these movements and mollifies their supporters will go a long way towards determining their success in 2016. At the moment neither side seems to have a handle on exactly how to do this. We are seeing very different tactics being applied.
Trump has become an object of scorn, not only to several fellow candidates but to the traditional conservative establishment and news media. The attacks have not been subtle, but most of Trumps supporters are not tucking in with a mellow Shiraz and perusing National Review. The post-debate spat with Megyn Kelly appears to have been more damaging. She is a familiar and appealing face to some Trump supporters and agnostics (if there are any).
It is not unreasonable for the GOP establishment to believe that a few more moments like this may do enough harm to neutralize him. And one big advantage they have is that Trump is not a social movement, he is a cult of personality. Once he is gone he will be gone, off getting his mug in the tabloids some other way. Some of his supporters might take their ball and go home, refusing to support the nominee, but most will likely see the chance at Republican control over congress and the Presidency as too good to pass up.
In the short term, the Democrats have an easier task with BLM. Scolding them is not an option for anyone. For a white, Democratic candidate, lecturing black people on the proper way to secure social justice is approximately the equivalent of having a Confederate flag tattoo. The central theme of todays liberal approach to race is that whites must listen more and talk less. But as a presidential candidate, eventually you have to talk. Proxies, such as Obama and Sen. Corey Booker, can be useful, but the candidates themselves will have to start adopting some of the language and policies of BLM. In many ways they already have.
In the longer term this becomes a dangerous play for Democrats. Outside of the urban enclaves of progressive elites and the downtrodden, a campaign centered on destroying white supremacy could be a very, very tough sell. At some point the BLM movement is going to have to make the choice that Occupy Wall Street never did. It will have to endorse a candidate and policies that represent a compromise. Traditionally, such moderation has not been a hallmark of progressive movements.
Donald Trump and BLM have both risen to prominence as a result of unique circumstances. The former, from an overpopulated and disjointed Republican field, the latter from increased attention on government violence towards blacks.
The GOP field will contract, and as it does Trump will become more isolated. The question is whether the damage will have already been done. BLM isnt going anywhere. The question is how much damage will they continue to do.
Fiorina pushing Cap & Trade: (short video)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bO6Bdt7mbVY&info=FiorinaSupportsCapTrade
Fiorina fully accepts the leftist theory of catastrophic global warming without any reservations. But then she now says that we cant achieve anything if we act alone. The fact of the matter is that if the Chicken Little theory is correct like Fiorina says, then we could do at least something by acting alone, and in fact in 2008 Fiorina herself advocated extreme unilateral (the US alone) action on climate change with her Cap & Trade scheme that would have cut CO2 emissions by 83% within 3 decades:
Most professional politicians have become multi-millionaires. They got their cut. We the peasants are left holding the bag.
What were those "recent statements" and "past comments"? As for the Mexico government tell me where I'm wrong, somebody.
Isn't this what Trump meant by them sending their citizens here? BTW all the while keeping command of them -- even if they become American citizens.
Sending their least desirable citizens here was/is a valuable pressure valve. See above link.
Comparing Trump and his supporters to BLM is downright silly; to wit, Hijacking a Bernie Sanders rally tells exactly what the BLM is.
1960s street mobs along with campus radical, psycho spoiled brats many of whom along with their ideological litters are now the Establishment. It's their tactics that give them away:
mau-mauing.
meaning.. "to intimidate by hostile confrontation or threats
See "Mau-Mauing the Flak Catchers" by Tom Wolfe
So "Black Lives Matter" means black lives mau-mauing.
Show me people threatened by Trump supporters -- I mean video of similar physical confrontations.
GOPe don’t respect primary elections I remember where the Tea Party candidate won in Alaska but the GOPe went and stabed the GOP constituents in the back and ran their gal as an independent.
Why should I read an article that starts out with a stupid analogy?
So being opposed to political correctness is a dog whistle for racism? Just making it up as they go along.
Trump's appeal actually transcends party. There are a lot of Americans who don't pay attention to politics but they know know who Trump is because they read People magazine. Trump's celebrity status has gotten him started and his fighting spirit has kept him going. There are a lot of people in this country who are sick of the PC crowd bullying people. Trump stands up to them.
Another factor is his identifying the illegal alien problem. It's a well guarded secret that border security is a winning issue across the board, a winning issue with Republicans and Democrats, men and women, black, white and yes, even with Hispanics.
How far will the Trump campaign go? I don't know, but I do know that if he bows out at some point the popularity he has garnered will rain down upon Cruz like dew.
Good point Jane. Everyone wants in on Trump. Big ratings everywhere. Most of the media folk will bad mouth him for rating. It gets folks to watch. What follows are the party groupies chiming in with whoever is doing the bad mouthing. Of course a lot of these msm folks are also owned.☺ It's big insider biz. So bad with most the politicos they should make the other candidates wear NASCAR suits so we know who owns them.
Most msm types feign being offended by everything. Some probably are.☺ The habitually offended PC zombies or posers want America to become the easily offended apologist capital of the world. It gets to a point where folks fear being overheard or saying what they feel about what ever.
It's also a stifle an intimidation ploy used on Americans. Then those in government do what they want hoping folks hide in fear of offending.
It's where we've sunk. It's part of what brought us to this point.
He's big news not because he's Trump, but because people want to hear him. And having big $ allows him to play their their 3rd rate political game show. And they do that as well as they run the country. Of course they too fear saying the wrong thing. They have big league owners.
Political Correctness is the way marxists ultimately control the masses. Like you said, it offers them the perfect avenue to intimidate.
Most Americans are sick and tired of the BS PC cr@p being forced on the MAJORITY, by the minority.
Trump is the anti-PC candidate. It’s driving the left/progressives completely batty.
increased attention on government violence towards blacks.
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Trayvon? Brown? Gray?
I ain’t buyin’ it.
There’s a race war already raging, I didn’t start it but I have chosen sides.
That’s right. You understand PC is a literally a big killer. A prime tool for those pushing their their own reckless agendas/beliefs and causes on the American people.
And it’s propagated far and wide. A very dangerous thing for a free people. Take care Jane.
Trump Lives Matter? Seriously, Trump’s main attraction to me is the way he makes GOPe drones like this author poop their Depends.
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