Posted on 08/12/2015 10:55:55 PM PDT by Morgana
Republican presidential candidate Carly Fiorina, who is pro-life, today criticized Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump after he appeared to waffle on de-funding Planned Parenthood in two interviews on Tuesday.
Donald Trump continues to talk about the Planned Parenthood abortion business and, in a new interview late Tuesday, he said Planned Parenthood should possibly be de-funded if it doesn’t stop doing abortions. That seems almost a guarantee since abortion is the central component of Planned parenthood’s business — though the Republican candidate didn’t appear to know that.
Some pro-life advocates have interpreted comments from Trump as essentially allowing Planned Parenthood to continue receiving $550 million in taxpayer funding since it doesn’t separate its abortion business from everything else it does.
Fiorina, who herself said she supports a government shutdown if Planned Parenthood is not de-funded, took Trump to task over his remarks and said they make him sound like a Democrat. Here’s more:
“Unfortunately, I think Mr. Trump is taking the Democrat Party’s talking points on Planned Parenthood,” Fiorina said in an interview released by CBS News on Wednesday.
“There are many other organizations that exist to help women with their health issues — pap smears, mammograms, et cetera,” added Fiorina, who has climbed in the polls following her widely praised performance at last week’s debate.
“In fact, Planned Parenthood does very few mammograms, just as one example, but what they do is a whole lot of abortions,” she said.
Fiorina made similar marks in a new interview with the Weekly Standard:
“I profoundly disagree with that statement by Donald Trump,” said the former Hewlett-Packard CEO. “They need to be defunded. There are many organizations that provide the kind of services that he mentioned. Planned Parenthood must be defunded.”
Tuesday morning on CNN, Trump said he supported de-funding the abortion aspects of Planned Parenthood but thought funding for non-abortion components ought to remain — which had pro-life advocates concerned he would leave the status quo of $550 million in taxpayer funding in place.
Then last night, Trump appeared on the Sean Hanity show and wrongly claimed that abortion was a small part of the Planned Parenthood abortion business.
Trump said: “There’s two Planned Parenthoods, in a way. You have it as an abortion clinic. Now that’s actually a fairly small part of what they do, but it’s a brutal part. And I’m totally against that and I wouldn’t do that. They also, however, service women. And one of the things that I thought was so terrible, when Jeb Bush the other day talked about women’s health issues he was so bad. It’s like what is he doing? We have to help women. A lot of women are helped. So we have to look at the positives also for Planned Parenthood.”
Them, Hannity corrected Trump and pointed out that Planned Parenthood does 330,000 abortions a year and that funding its non-abortion aspects frees up money to promote and perform abortions. Responding to that, Trump said “maybe” Planned Parenthood should be de-funded.
“Maybe unless they stop with the abortions, we don’t do the funding for the stuff that we want,” Trump said.
Before claiming misinformation about what Trump said, you should be aware that there is video. He did waffle back and forth on PP and quoted Dem talking points. A Dem must be feeding him his info. You support Trump at your own peril.
The Sisterhood is a religion to feminists, and Carly is a feminist. That's why I say she's for Hillary. She attacks Hillary, but she's a Republican disrupter. And yeah, she seems to be wanting to be Jeb's VP - to bolster his candidacy like McCain/Palin, and then to help him lose to Hillary.
Of course, Hillary is now having her own problems. So we'll see how everyone's pet plans play out...
Yes Dave, and we recognize you for what you are.
We faced Fiorina when she ran for Senate.
The stink still hasn’t washed off.
She got pulverized.
exactly.
Are you hurtin’ that she would dare say anything about The One? Are your feelings hurt? Are you sad that The One is not worshiped by all?
You are full of it.LOLOL
Well, Fiorina seems complex, evolved and nuanced here:
http://www.bustle.com/articles/80749-carly-fiorinas-stance-on-abortion-is-set-in-stone-she-believes-most-americans-will-agree
Having accompanied a friend through the process, she set to rethinking it all and came to the conclusion that “she’s against it except in cases of rape, incest, and when the pregnancy threatens the life of the mother”.
Now she is calling attention to Trump having been pro-abortion in 1999, anti-partial birth abortion in 2000, and finally renouncing abortion altogether in 2011 having seen a friend and his wife decide against an abortion and rejoicing in the child born of the pregnancy. He thinks however that there should be exceptions where “the life of the mother, incest and rape” are at issue:
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2015/aug/11/carly-fiorina/fiorina-trumps-abortion-flip-flop/
I supposed the apparent congruity of supporting abortion where it involves cases of “rape, incest, and when the pregnancy threatens the life of the mother”, on Fiorina’s part, and Trumps support where “the life of the mother, incest and rape” is involved are actually very different.
In the first article we learn that Fiorina enjoys a nuanced and complex evolution as opposed to Trump’s crass flip flopping as revealed in the second article. I think that is the lesson we are supposed to learn.
Or, perhaps, it is just a cheap shot by a politician, and a distinction without a difference?
Both of these articles seem to emanate from her camp.
Here is what Carly says about feminism:
“Feminism began as a rallying cry to empower women,” she will say at the Competitive Enterprise Institute. “But over the years, feminism has devolved into a left-leaning political ideology where women are pitted against men and used as a political weapon to win elections.”
Instead, she offered her own definition: “A feminist is a woman who lives the life she chooses. … A woman may choose to have five children and home-school them. She may choose to become a CEO, or run for President.”
You said the doughty one wrote things that were not true.
He asked you to point out specifically what it was that he wrote was untrue.
FR’s owner, per the post immediately above, apparently called her a “statist” and “abortionist”. Is it your position as well that these things are also untrue?
She lost by 10 points in the state of California. It was 52 points to 42 points, which is respectable for a first time candidate against Boxer, in Cali, in which the republican party is completely moribund and she still managed to limit Boxer to 52 points in California....barely, a majority.
I would not say she was pulverized at all. Another lie by you.
Yes, I do.
Dave, she isn’t qualified to compete with Trump.
I could go out and declare for president. I wouldn’t qualify because I haven’t accomplished anything that would make me a reasoned candidate.
Just going out and prattling off nice catch phrases doesn’t make one qualified.
She has a very checkered history as a CEO. She doesn’t have one successful stint at it. She only has one miserably failed one.
She beat down the value of HP by 52%, and was canned. The day she left the stock rallied.
What else has she done to qualify?
Has she accumulated wealth?
Did she start a successful business and employ hundreds or thousands of people?
Did she hold office at either the state or federal level?
The answer to all these questions is no.
If you folks want to support a Conservative, go support Ted Cruz. The man is worthy of supporting.
This woman is a pretender.
To heck with Trump. I don’t care if you support him or not, but at least support someone worthy of your support.
This woman isn’t qualified on ANY level.
I’m thinking Trump would pass up Carly as his choice for VP, but even if he considered her, Carly would reject the offer.
Ah Trump sounds like a democrat and Carly sounds like a RINO...
The big fight... a Donkey vs. a RINO...
what’s on TV.. worth watching..
She is not trying to be elected. She is running for VP.
Carly Fiorina Criticizes Donald Trump ...You're kidding, right?
Abortion, abortion, abortion, abortion, abortion.
Not one elected person that ANY/all pro-life Freepers have elected has EVER done anyting to stop abortion...And the 20 week scam is just that (anyone claiming to be pro-life proposing that or falling for it is a fraud and a hypocrite).
Abortion is used by both parties as a dangling carrot to keep you abortion jackasses pulling the cart.
I will say this. If anyone ever decided to actually do something about it (since not one stooge you've ever elected on a pro-life promise has) it would be Trump...not Cruz, not walker... TRUMP
Good for you, for not buckling to an argumentum ad baculum.
On one level, I would love to see someone with his bluster and hot air run the government. It really wouldn't bother me if he personally insulted nearly everyone he came into contact with. As president, he may think he can order everyone around, but he can't. He would find massive resistance in the civil service and they have rules and union contracts to fall back on that he can't void.
You just can't rescind rules. You need hearings, time for public comments, etc, etc. When Bush was president, his folks tried to rescind a host of rules and regs and they are always taken to court and the judges most often came up with excuses as to why the rules and regs can't be rescinded. There is absolutely nothing he can do about it.
I could go on.
I have yet to decide upon who I support and still have my options open, but I did decide to quit listening to the LIVs of FR and research the candidates myself after I found many were either outright lying or misguidedly repeating misinformation about Carly and Trump.
Trump is a no go for me. Complete buffoon that says whatever he needs to say to get elected and changes his story daily much less monthly. He is a Democrat running as a Republican. I don’t believe he even knows what Conservatism is. He will be history before long providing he keeps opening his mouth and letting us know what he really thinks on a particular moment.
No Jeb, Casich, Rubio, et al...
I could easily pound the pavement for Cruz, Carly or Carson.
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