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Carly Fiorina: Islamic Civilization was “Greatest in the World”
Freedom Outpost ^ | June 15, 2015 | Tim Brown

Posted on 08/09/2015 4:16:27 PM PDT by austinaero

When other nations were afraid of ideas, this civilization thrived on them, and kept them alive. When censors threatened to wipe out knowledge from past civilizations, this civilization kept the knowledge alive, and passed it on to others.

While modern Western civilization shares many of these traits, the civilization I'm talking about was the Islamic world from the year 800 to 1600, which included the Ottoman Empire and the courts of Baghdad, Damascus and Cairo, and enlightened rulers like Suleiman the Magnificent.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2016election; 911; babysnooks; fiorina; islam; repositorycarly
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To: Belteshazzar

She is full of____.

Another Obama?


21 posted on 08/09/2015 4:32:20 PM PDT by MarvinStinson
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To: austinaero

Now that is just pure blathering idiocy
Most of the “great” Islamic inventions were rip offs from the Greeks and others

Has she bought a prayer rug yet?


22 posted on 08/09/2015 4:32:34 PM PDT by silverleaf (Age takes a toll: Please have exact change)
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To: Tennessee Nana

23 posted on 08/09/2015 4:32:56 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (Lost my tagline on Flight MH370. Sorry for the inconvenience.)
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To: austinaero

I am still trying to figure out what Islam ever invented or gave to the world.

They stole everything from those they conquered, even the “zero”.

That’s why the West and the East had to constantly push them back into their sandbox.

The last time was in 1673 outside the gates of Vienna.

The only export of Islam has been mass beheadings, mass rape and mass subjugation of woman and the mass selling of captured peoples into slavery. Let’s not forget they were the gatekeepers at the African ports that sold the slaves overseas.

If Carly is the maker of this speech, she is dumber than Megyn Kelly.

And to say all this in Sept. 2001, when the smoke was still rising from Ground Zero in NY, and the smell of death was in everyone’s nostrils, is unforgivable.


24 posted on 08/09/2015 4:33:24 PM PDT by exit82 ("The Taliban is on the inside of the building" E. Nordstrom 10-10-12)
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To: austinaero

Context.

“I’m talking about was the Islamic world from the year 800 to 1600”

She’s talking about 400—1200 yrs ago. She is not talking about now. She knows the “civilization” back then is not the “civilization” we have today. . .and she calls muslime terrorists. . .muslime terrorists.

She knows who the threat is and is willing to call it by name.


25 posted on 08/09/2015 4:34:31 PM PDT by Hulka
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To: getarope

If she was referring to them today. . but she is not.

Post 25.


26 posted on 08/09/2015 4:35:39 PM PDT by Hulka
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To: austinaero

I’ve heard people say this any number of times. Its just lazy thinking. Its bumpersticker thinking.


27 posted on 08/09/2015 4:35:50 PM PDT by marron
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To: austinaero

Note the first sentence. That is demonstrably true.

There was ONCE (emphasis mine) a civilization that was the greatest in the world. The Ottoman Empire did not go away until WWI. That was clearly an Islamic empire.

In no way am I singing the praises of Islam. I was trying to point out what she really said and it was in the first sentence of what she had to say.

Islam really went south with the advent of Wahhabism.


28 posted on 08/09/2015 4:36:29 PM PDT by RichardW
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To: austinaero

RUN!


29 posted on 08/09/2015 4:36:45 PM PDT by BlackAdderess (Trump 2016)
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To: pocat

ping


30 posted on 08/09/2015 4:36:59 PM PDT by timestax (American Media = Domestic Enemy)
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To: Bogey78O
"Dark Ages" are a myth concocted by liberal historians. There was a terrific amount of progress in the "Dark Ages," more so than in the Islamic world:

padded horse collars, crop rotation, three field crop system, eyeglasses, dual entry bookkeeping, bills of exchange, waterwheels, harmony, polyphony, harpsichords, pipe organs, wah wah pedals . . . . ah, I made the last one up.

See Rodney Stark, "The Victory of Reason."

Socially the term slave disappeared from the language altogether. Politically you had the Magna Charta and title deeds. Altogether a period of great advance despite the Black Plague.

31 posted on 08/09/2015 4:37:08 PM PDT by LS ("Castles Made of Sand, Fall in the Sea . . . Eventually" (Hendrix))
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To: austinaero
For context, here's the entire speech.

CARLY FIORINA
MINNEAPOLIS, MINNESOTA
SEPTEMBER 26, 2001
"TECHNOLOGY, BUSINESS AND OUR WAY OF LIFE: WHAT'S NEXT"

And here's the pertinent section.


I’ll end by telling a story.

There was once a civilization that was the greatest in the world.

It was able to create a continental super-state that stretched from ocean to ocean, and from northern climes to tropics and deserts. Within its dominion lived hundreds of millions of people, of different creeds and ethnic origins.

One of its languages became the universal language of much of the world, the bridge between the peoples of a hundred lands. Its armies were made up of people of many nationalities, and its military protection allowed a degree of peace and prosperity that had never been known. The reach of this civilization’s commerce extended from Latin America to China, and everywhere in between.

And this civilization was driven more than anything, by invention. Its architects designed buildings that defied gravity. Its mathematicians created the algebra and algorithms that would enable the building of computers, and the creation of encryption. Its doctors examined the human body, and found new cures for disease. Its astronomers looked into the heavens, named the stars, and paved the way for space travel and exploration.

Its writers created thousands of stories. Stories of courage, romance and magic. Its poets wrote of love, when others before them were too steeped in fear to think of such things.

When other nations were afraid of ideas, this civilization thrived on them, and kept them alive. When censors threatened to wipe out knowledge from past civilizations, this civilization kept the knowledge alive, and passed it on to others.

While modern Western civilization shares many of these traits, the civilization I’m talking about was the Islamic world from the year 800 to 1600, which included the Ottoman Empire and the courts of Baghdad, Damascus and Cairo, and enlightened rulers like Suleiman the Magnificent.

Although we are often unaware of our indebtedness to this other civilization, its gifts are very much a part of our heritage. The technology industry would not exist without the contributions of Arab mathematicians. Sufi poet-philosophers like Rumi challenged our notions of self and truth. Leaders like Suleiman contributed to our notions of tolerance and civic leadership.

And perhaps we can learn a lesson from his example: It was leadership based on meritocracy, not inheritance. It was leadership that harnessed the full capabilities of a very diverse population–that included Christianity, Islamic, and Jewish traditions.

This kind of enlightened leadership — leadership that nurtured culture, sustainability, diversity and courage — led to 800 years of invention and prosperity.

In dark and serious times like this, we must affirm our commitment to building societies and institutions that aspire to this kind of greatness. More than ever, we must focus on the importance of leadership– bold acts of leadership and decidedly personal acts of leadership.

With that, I’d like to open up the conversation and see what we, collectively, believe about the role of leadership.



32 posted on 08/09/2015 4:39:35 PM PDT by Bratch
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To: Rome2000

ALL our candidates are flawed and not pure.

Don’t vote and let the demoncRAT win and stack the SCOTUS. It is our only choice if we can’t find a candidate that is pure.

We can survive 8-yrs of obama and another 8-yrs of hitlery. . .and a totally stacked SCOTUS. . .I think not.


33 posted on 08/09/2015 4:39:47 PM PDT by Hulka
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To: Insigne123

Post 25.


34 posted on 08/09/2015 4:40:11 PM PDT by Hulka
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To: austinaero
The jewel of civilization used to be the eastern Mediterranean which was Greece, Persia, Babylon, Egypt, Juda, Carthage, etc. Islam inherited the wealthiest, most educated and cultured part of the ancient world. It took a while but Islam managed to turn those great civilizations of the eastern Mediterranean into tribal goat f**kers. Islam has not contributed a damn thing to civilization. But Islam is good a taken credit for the work of other civilizations.
35 posted on 08/09/2015 4:41:12 PM PDT by jpsb (Believe nothing until it has been officially denied)
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To: The Antiyuppie

Too many are just reading the misleading headline and making sweeping negative statements that one would expect when a statement is taken out of context.


36 posted on 08/09/2015 4:41:39 PM PDT by Hulka
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To: Da Coyote

Post 25, please.


37 posted on 08/09/2015 4:41:56 PM PDT by Hulka
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To: exit82

Post 25, please.

Context.


38 posted on 08/09/2015 4:43:09 PM PDT by Hulka
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To: Tennessee Nana

Hey. You going to Huntsville?


39 posted on 08/09/2015 4:43:50 PM PDT by gov_bean_ counter (Beware the Wisconsin Weasel - GOPe Plan B)
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To: austinaero

No way to correct stupid.


40 posted on 08/09/2015 4:45:20 PM PDT by mulligan (I)
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