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To: austinaero

Context.

“I’m talking about was the Islamic world from the year 800 to 1600”

She’s talking about 400—1200 yrs ago. She is not talking about now. She knows the “civilization” back then is not the “civilization” we have today. . .and she calls muslime terrorists. . .muslime terrorists.

She knows who the threat is and is willing to call it by name.


25 posted on 08/09/2015 4:34:31 PM PDT by Hulka
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To: Hulka

I gotta disagree with you a bit here...when she says “Although we are often unaware of our indebtedness to this other civilization, its gifts are very much a part of our heritage. “

It sounds to me like she is saying civilization owes a debt to the Islamics of that time,,,and considering she made her remarks in September of 2001, AFTER 9/11,,I’m having a difficult time with it.
That’s why I requested assistance in vetting it.


50 posted on 08/09/2015 4:56:07 PM PDT by austinaero
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To: Hulka
That limitation to 800-1600 AD is a huge qualification, and I think a lot of folks in this forum who are taking a critical stance may have overlooked it.

I've never been to Iran, but I have friends in the US (US citizens, graduates of US universities) who were born in Iran. If you ask them “where are you from?” they will answer “Persia.” Probably because they want to harken back to that distant history in which Persian culture was relatively advanced, and arguably led the world in some areas.

I don't think this is a controversial remark to anyone who understands that era of history. My understanding of it comes from reading several of Bernard Lewis’ fine works and from extensive conversations with people who know the middle east well. Those who are from that area are proud of is continuity as a culture, its distant history. They are embarrassed by its history post 1979.

51 posted on 08/09/2015 4:59:35 PM PDT by Wally_Kalbacken (qaulification)
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To: Hulka

“Context.

“I’m talking about was the Islamic world from the year 800 to 1600”

She’s talking about 400—1200 yrs ago. She is not talking about now. She knows the “civilization” back then is not the “civilization” we have today. . .and she calls muslime terrorists. . .muslime terrorists.

She knows who the threat is and is willing to call it by name.”

Thank you. Please don’t fall for this hit piece. She is starting to do well and out come the Lib hit pieces. On Fox News Sunday she hit it out of the park. She is intelligent, articulate and a Conservative. Don’t drink the Kool Aid from the Libs.


59 posted on 08/09/2015 5:27:58 PM PDT by Pirate Ragnar (Libs put feelings first and thought second.)
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