Does Global Warming Actually Increase Antarctic Sea Ice?

Discovery News ^ | July 31, 2015 | BY PATRICK J. KIGER

[Oldeconomybuyer]

People who insist that climate change isn’t happening often try to disprove it by pointing to what they see as contradictory phenomena. One of their most visually compelling arguments has centered upon Antarctic sea ice, which expanded to reach record levels in 2014. If the planet really is warming, they ask, then shouldn’t the ice in the southern ocean be melting?

But now, in a new, not-yet-published paper, James Hansen, former director of the NASA Goddard Institute for Space Studies, and colleagues push back even harder. They argue that the increase in Antarctic sea ice not only doesn’t refute climate change, but actually is caused by warming.

“Our climate model exposes amplifying feedbacks in the Southern Ocean that slow Antarctic bottom water formation and increase ocean temperature near ice shelf grounding lines, while cooling the surface ocean and increasing sea ice cover and water column stability,” the scientists argue in the abstract for the paper, which is undergoing review for publication in the journal Atmospheric Chemistry and Physics.

Here’s that scenario in simpler terms. While sea ice has been increasing, we know from analyzing satellite data that the ice covering the land mass of Antarctica has been melting rapidly.

Hansen told the Washington Post that the Antarctic ice expansion trend will continue, along with ice sheet melt. But that acceleration actually will be a sign that climate change is worsening.

“It will be clearer, give us a few more years,” Hansen told the Post.

[Pontiac]

When did scientist forget that computer models are built to test theories and not to predict the future.

And by the way climate models that predict global warming in the future have consistently failed to predict the past.

[ETL]

the south pole is at the bottom where the cold air collects

And everyone knows South is always at the bottom and North is always at top! So how can there be any confusion? Lol!

[mykroar]

We have always been at war with Eastasia.

[aquila48]

“James Hansen, former director of the NASA Goddard Institute for Space Studies, and colleagues push back even harder. They argue that the increase in Antarctic sea ice not only doesn’t refute climate change, but actually is caused by warming.”

Unbelievable! They actually say this with authority and a straight face!! This is propaganda and mind bending of the worst kind.

Reminds me of the Asch Experiment on peer pressure and the power that such crap has on people.

https://explorable.com/asch-experiment

[rikkir]

Your explanation is hilarious!!

I would be laughing heartily, if I didn’t foresee multiple idiots actually using that as a reason.

If I had kids today, I wouldn’t let them step foot in a Public Skool.

[AU72]

An global warming expedition in Greenland had to turn back because of too much ice.

[Dad was my hero]

We turned off the freezer so we can get more ice. Makes perfect sense. Don’t know why we’ve been spending money to cool it down?

[PATRIOT1876]

Talk about grasping at straws!

“These freezing temperature PROVE that it's very hot!”

The Climate “scientists” remind me of Wimp Lo from the movie Kung Po:
https://youtu.be/d696t3yALAY

“How about a little face to your fist action!”

[kik5150]

It is impossible for ice and snow to melt on most of the continent of Antarctica because the daily high temperature does not rise above freezing, even in the Summer. Any loss of ice or snow is from sublimation, indicating a solar cause.

[PATRIOT1876]

James “Tommy Flanagan” Hansen's nose is so long from lying that he is unable to go thru a revolving door.

He has been banned from driving a forklift because his nose could cause it to flip over as if the forks were pointed down.

[ETL]

"James Hansen, former director of the NASA Goddard Institute for Space Studies, and colleagues push back even harder. They argue that the increase in Antarctic sea ice not only doesn’t refute climate change, but actually is caused by warming."

James Hansen (quote), from October 2004:

"Several years ago I received the Heinz Environment Award. I don't know who nominated me for that award or how the selection works."

"I am confident that it has no impact on my evaluation of the climate problem or on my political leanings."

"In the upcoming election I will vote for John Kerry."

Source: Columbia University.edu [pdf]:
http://www.columbia.edu/~jeh1/dai_complete.pdf
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NASA's Hansen Mentioned in [George] Soros Foundation's Annual Report:
http://newsbusters.org/blogs/noel-sheppard/2007/09/26/nasa-s-hansen-mentioned-soros-foundations-annual-report
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"Hansen is best known for his research in the field of climatology, his testimony on climate change to congressional committees in 1988 that helped raise broad awareness of global warming, and his advocacy of action to limit the impacts of climate change."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Hansen

[PATRIOT1876]

“I spent a lot of time in Europe. They say that Americans are a bunch of rubes. If I can get people to believe that more ice proves that it's hotter, I'll know that they're right. Then I can go on to my dream of selling the Brooklyn Bridge many many times like my great grandpa did to the new immigrants in the 1890’s.”

~ James Hansen

[ilgipper]

SO for two decades they screamed about the melting ice caps with images of poor polar bears floating around. NOW, it’s that global warming is creating MORE ice at the poles. They think people are so stupid. We need to make sure they’re past statements are front and center on record.

[PATRIOT1876]

“That's the ticket!”

I almost always think of him every time a Global Warmonger
vomits up more lies.

The most knowledgeable Climate Scientist is Tommy's wife...Dr. Morgan Fairchild!

[JimSEA]

It’s ridiculous to contend that the current levels of CO2 are the cause of global warming. I think some of the proponents of global warming are sincere in their beliefs. CO2 is a greenhouse gas as is methane but there are so many factors in global climate that the predictions of AGW proponents is a hypothesis at best and no theory of climate exists. There are a great multitude of climate factors and no one understands the relations among them.

The political and economic ramifications of CO2 reductions are massive and also not clearly in view. It’s not to be mentioned who will benefit most my green industries. The poor of the world are, however, guaranteed to be harmed the most.

[downtownconservative]

Thanks for that analysis! It’s actually logical.

[PATRIOT1876]

Listen up Mr. Goebbels...er..that is to say Hansen:

“But cowards, unbelievers, the corrupt, murderers, the immoral, those who practice witchcraft, idol worshipers, and all LIARS

—their fate is in the fiery lake of burning sulfur. This is the second death.”

-Revelation 21:8

Those that preach the unsavory lie of man-made Climate Change are guilty on almost all counts listed above.

[ETL]

Lol! For the record, the James Hansen quotes I posted above were real ones. A link to Columbia University is included.

[PJ-Comix]

Melting ice means Global Warming but expanding ice means...Global Warming.

[E. Pluribus Unum]

If reality doesn’t conform to your theory, there must be something wrong with reality.