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Donald Trump's Attorney Defends Him Against Ex-Wife's Rape Allegation “You can’t rape your spouse"
The Huffington Post ^ | July 27, 2015 | Marina Fang

Posted on 07/28/2015 12:42:49 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife

Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump may have raped his ex-wife Ivana Trump, according to a 1993 biography of the real estate mogul uncovered by The Daily Beast. Trump's attorney on Monday denied the allegation, claiming “you cannot rape your spouse.”

“You’re talking about the front-runner for the GOP, presidential candidate, as well as private individual, who never raped anybody," Michael Cohen, the Trump Organization’s special counsel, told The Daily Beast. "And, of course, understand that by the very definition, you can’t rape your spouse.”

The biography, Lost Tycoon: The Many Lives of Donald J. Trump, by Harry Hurt III, details a 1989 incident in which Trump reportedly confronted his then-wife Ivana, pulling out clumps of her hair and sexually assaulting her. She characterized the incident as rape during the couple’s divorce proceedings in the early 1990s and said she felt “violated,” according to legal documents cited by The Daily Beast....

...Trump, a real estate mogul, has made numerous offensive comments about rape, most notably when he kicked off his presidential campaign last month and alleged that undocumented Mexican immigrants are “rapists.”

Read the whole story at The Daily Beast.

(Excerpt) Read more at huffingtonpost.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Extended News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: New York
KEYWORDS: 2016election; demagogicparty; election2016; ivanatrump; marriage; memebuilding; michaelcohen; newyork; partisanmediashill; partisanmediashills; schlonged; sexualassault; trump; veracoking
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Cincinatus Wife,

Why are you always on the wrong side of these things?

During the 2012 election you did everything possible to attack every man with balls who was running to try to prop up your guy Perry who has neither balls nor brains. I’m surprised you are not backing him again.


161 posted on 07/28/2015 7:57:11 AM PDT by ClaudeSchmidt
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

You should get a job with MSNBC, smearing conservatives.

Trump will swat this away and pathetic little leftists like you will keep spreading your bs.

Your jealousy over Trump because your leftie pro-same sex marriage, pro amnesty, pro Patriot Act Scottie Walker who is failing in the nomination run, shows through on every post you make.

Watch this lawyer Cohen come back swinging telling how this is a leftist reporter telling bs. Then Ivana will do the same. But you want to help these leftists spread this smear dirt like a good little democrat.


162 posted on 07/28/2015 8:03:13 AM PDT by free_life (If you ask Jesus to forgive you and to save you, He will.)
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To: sf4dubya

Trump isn’t going after the RINO raising the most money —Jeb Bush. He’s going after conservative candidates instead, which includes both Walker and Cruz.


Trump and Cruz agree with each other on their policy statements and have said so. Walker is no conservative, he Bush’s rino in waiting...pro- same sex marriage and pro-amnesty.

Trump takes down Jeb daily. You are another who should work for MSNBC attacking conservatives.


163 posted on 07/28/2015 8:11:39 AM PDT by free_life (If you ask Jesus to forgive you and to save you, He will.)
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To: ClaudeSchmidt; Cincinatus' Wife

Cincinatus’ Wife works hard for the enemies of conservatives, smearing conservatives to prevent conservative platforms from succeeding.


164 posted on 07/28/2015 8:19:49 AM PDT by free_life (If you ask Jesus to forgive you and to save you, He will.)
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To: elhombrelibre

Ivana’s own words refute what you posted, but you are so bent on hurting Trump’s conservative message you are willing to help spread leftist smears. No wonder we end up with Bush’s, Romney’s and McCain’s.


165 posted on 07/28/2015 8:40:00 AM PDT by free_life (If you ask Jesus to forgive you and to save you, He will.)
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To: Conscience of a Conservative

Please show us all a case where a man was convicted of “raping” his current spouse. Thanks.


166 posted on 07/28/2015 9:22:38 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (You can help: https://donate.tedcruz.org/c/FBTX0095/)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Please show us all a case where a man was convicted of “raping” his current spouse. Thanks.

Are you suggesting that this lawyer was correct in his statement that, under the law, it is impossible for a husband to rape his wife?

Here's a story about the first man convicted in NY of raping his wife. New York had a spousal exemption, but it was overturned over 30 years ago:

MARITAL RAPE: LAW'S CRITICS JOIN AN APPEAL

Here's another:

Man Found Guilty of Raping his Wife

167 posted on 07/28/2015 9:33:02 AM PDT by Conscience of a Conservative
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To: Conscience of a Conservative

Two cases in a country of 330 million people. Wow.


168 posted on 07/28/2015 9:34:09 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (You can help: https://donate.tedcruz.org/c/FBTX0095/)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Two cases in a country of 330 million people. Wow.

First of all, you asked me to cite a case. Not every case. I cited two. There are plenty more out there. Now you're criticizing me for only citing two? Wow.

Second, look at the idiotic statement by Trump's lawyer. He said:

"And, of course, understand that by the very definition, you can’t rape your spouse.”

“It is true,” Cohen added. “You cannot rape your spouse. And there’s very clear case law.”

That is demonstrably false. By the very definition, you CAN rape your spouse. And, yes, there is very clear caselaw on the subject, which says the OPPOSITE of what Cohen said.

Look, Cohen has already publicly acknowledged that he was wrong. But sure, keep defending the statement.

169 posted on 07/28/2015 9:40:10 AM PDT by Conscience of a Conservative
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To: Conscience of a Conservative

Ivana Trump REJECTS rape allegations, says Donald Trump ‘would make an incredible president’
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3317634/posts


170 posted on 07/28/2015 9:43:39 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (You can help: https://donate.tedcruz.org/c/FBTX0095/)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Ivana Trump REJECTS rape allegations, says Donald Trump ‘would make an incredible president’

What does that have to do with the idiocy of Cohen's statement? Of course the so-called "rape allegations" were nonsense. That was obvious from the start (and if you look further up in the thread, you'll see that I've said so right here).

Which is all the more reason Cohen's statement was stupid. Not only was it false (a husband can most certainly rape his wife), but it was unnecessary, because Trump did not rape his wife, regardless of whether the law recognizes spousal rape. So, Cohen didn't even need to go there. But he did. And he was wrong.

171 posted on 07/28/2015 9:47:28 AM PDT by Conscience of a Conservative
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To: Conscience of a Conservative

Do you think that ends the lawsuit against the Daily Beast?


172 posted on 07/28/2015 9:52:19 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (You can help: https://donate.tedcruz.org/c/FBTX0095/)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

You should apologize for posting this tabloid trash.


173 posted on 07/28/2015 9:55:05 AM PDT by McGruff (Eat a snickers...)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Do you think that ends the lawsuit against the Daily Beast?

I think there is no lawsuit against the Daily Beast. Trump's lawyer has threatened one, but nothing has been filed yet.

And I think that such a lawsuit would fail. The Daily Beast article reported about allegations that were made in a litigation (divorce proceeding) between Trump and his ex-wife. When a newspaper reports about allegations made in legal proceedings, the plaintiff must prove not that the allegations were false, but rather that the article's depiction of the allegations was false. So, in this case, it would not be enough for Trump to show that the rape allegations were false - Trump would have to show that the Daily Beast's statements concerning those allegations were themselves false.

Not to mention that Trump is a public figure, which makes it that much more difficult to succeed on a defamation claim.

Trump's lawsuit would lose on a motion to dismiss. Pretty easily, actually.

174 posted on 07/28/2015 10:01:28 AM PDT by Conscience of a Conservative
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

I thought the subject matter was DT raping (not literally or criminally) his former wife?


175 posted on 07/28/2015 10:24:40 AM PDT by bonfire
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To: Conscience of a Conservative

As I am not a first year law student....
...and Trump’s attorney should know what is the law and what isn’t..
I’ll take his word over yours!


176 posted on 07/28/2015 10:35:04 AM PDT by Guenevere (If the foundations are destroyed, what can the righteous do........Psalms 11:3..An Appeal to Heaven)
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To: Guenevere
See my post at #167. New York used to have a "marital exception" for rape, but that was eliminated in 1984, over 30 years ago. Trump's lawyer was admitted to practice in New York in 1992, eight years after the exception was overturned:

So yes, he should know what the law is and isn't. But his statement was wrong.

177 posted on 07/28/2015 10:42:15 AM PDT by Conscience of a Conservative
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To: Conscience of a Conservative

Moot point....
Ivana denies it.....said she and Donald are friends

Good enough for me.


178 posted on 07/28/2015 11:41:04 AM PDT by Guenevere (If the foundations are destroyed, what can the righteous do........Psalms 11:3..An Appeal to Heaven)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

LOL.....not in a million years!


179 posted on 07/28/2015 11:42:15 AM PDT by Guenevere (If the foundations are destroyed, what can the righteous do........Psalms 11:3..An Appeal to Heaven)
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To: Guenevere

This won’t “end” Trump’s lawsuit against DB, because Trump will never actually file a lawsuit against DB. Because he would lose. Badly, and quickly.


180 posted on 07/28/2015 11:49:34 AM PDT by Conscience of a Conservative
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