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Bush, Walker Paul in, Trump out of Voters First forum [Union Leader "mocked" him]
Union Leader ^ | July 24, 2015 | Staff

Posted on 07/27/2015 1:09:22 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife

Jeb Bush, Scott Walker and Rand Paul are in. Donald Trump is out.

A total of 14 candidates will participate in the Voters First Republican Presidential Forum on Monday, Aug. 3, at St. Anselm College. The two-hour forum,intended to highlight the importance of the first-in-the-nation primary,along with the Iowa caucuses and South Carolina’s early primary.

“I am in the North Country today,” Bush said Thursday,“meeting with voters about my message of reforming the culture in Washington. I’m looking forward to participating in the August 3rd forum. It’s clear it is a great opportunity to engage with Granite Staters about the important issues confronting the nation.”

The forum came into being after Fox News was heavily criticized for limiting the first sanctioned TV debate to 10 candidates based solely on national polling. Republicans in Iowa,New Hampshire,and South Carolina all wrote letters protesting the polling criteria, but Fox hasn’t budged. However, it has moved up to a 5 p.m. start a second forum for lower-polling candidates. It is unclear how many will attend. The Fox events are in Cleveland,but that state’s governor,John Kasich,may not make the top tier for the primetime debate.

The Voters First Forum is being co-sponsored by the New Hampshire Union Leader, the Charleston, S.C., Post and Courier, and the Cedar Rapids, Iowa, Gazette. Broadcast co-sponsors are iHeart radio, KCRG-TV, Cedar Rapids;and WLTX-TV in Columbia, S.C. The forum will be broadcast nationally by C-SPAN. New England viewers will be able to watch on NECN. It will be broadcast locally by NH1/WBIN-TV in New Hampshire, as well as by the South Carolina and Iowa stations. It will also air live on NHPR.

Candidate Trump bowed out because, an aide said, he was upset with a Union Leader editorial this week that mocked him for saying that U.S. Sen. John McCain was not a war hero.

(Excerpt) Read more at unionleader.com ...


TOPICS: Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Arizona; US: Florida; US: New Hampshire; US: New York; US: Ohio; US: Wisconsin
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For Walker, primary is about running a ‘steady race

"..The governor plans on spending more time in the state soon, though his most recent plans were altered. A motorcycle tour through New Hampshire’s 10 counties was scheduled to begin Saturday, but was postponed so he could be in Wisconsin for the funeral of Marine Sgt. Carson Holmquist, one of the Marines who was killed in the Chattanooga, Tenn., shooting.

Holmquist was one of five people killed, four of whom were Marines, in an attack July 16.

An unrelated but also fatal shooting occurred this week at a movie theater in Lafayette, La., in which two people were killed and nine were injured, prompting national discussions on gun access.

“I’ve always been a great advocate for law abiding citizens,” Walker said. “Most of the horrible cases we hear about aren’t because people had access to firearms. . . . the issue, sadly all too often, is people . . . suffering from chronic mental illness.”

“The gun laws won’t make the difference as much as people would if they got the assistance early on,” he said.

The Chattanooga shooting differs from this though, Walker said, calling it a global issue.

“That’s a bigger issue,” he said. According to the Associated Press, the shooter in this case is being investigated as a “homegrown violent extremist.”

Walker plans to resume his motorcycle tour at a later date, although he will be in New Hampshire next week for the Union Leader’s forum, in which 14 Republican candidates are currently scheduled to participate..."

1 posted on 07/27/2015 1:09:23 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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On Sunday, Donald Trump Showed Why His Campaign Is Doomed For the past six weeks, an overarching concern for the Republican Party has been the impact that Donald Trump might have on the GOP primary election – particularly the damage he could do on the debate stage by turning an already unmanageable 10-candidate forum into a full-on circus.

On Sunday, though, Trump himself gave one of the clearest examples yet of why his candidacy is doomed to fail, and why, if handled properly, the debate stage could be his Waterloo.

Trump has staked much of his campaign on his promise to solve what many of his supporters see as a major immigration crisis. As anyone serious about the issue of illegal immigration recognizes, there are at least 11 million undocumented workers in the U.S. right now, and rounding them up for deportation is not a viable option.

Tapper asked Trump to expand on his policy beyond building a wall on the border. The host may have been hoping for a considered reply revealing Trump’s detailed thinking on immigration.

Trump called in to CNN’s State of the Union on Sunday morning to speak with host Jake Tapper.

Much of the appearance was, in fact, more of a Trumpian soliloquy, which appears to be his favorite form of expression, than an interview. However, when Tapper was eventually able to interrupt him and press for some policy specifics, the cracks in Trump’s façade quickly became evident.

[SNIP]

If any of Trump’s potential debate opponents were watching, it should have been a very instructive few minutes. Even on Trump’s signature issue, his policy positions are tissue-thin, and don’t stand up to the lightest questioning.

Why he begins to be required to answer substantive questions – and to defend his answers – in a forum he doesn’t control, The Donald may just end up firing himself."

2 posted on 07/27/2015 1:17:42 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Can somebody explain to me why we give New Hampshire so much weight in picking our candidates? Shouldn’t out first primary be in a state that at least will probably vote republican in the general election?


3 posted on 07/27/2015 1:19:49 AM PDT by jospehm20
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To: jospehm20

This forum (as explained above in the article) has co-sponsors and will be broadcast widely.


4 posted on 07/27/2015 1:22:14 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Donald Duck


5 posted on 07/27/2015 1:23:34 AM PDT by Berlin_Freeper
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To: jospehm20

Just read Trump ahead in NH, someone should tell Union Leader to follow the residents of NH and let Trump in.


6 posted on 07/27/2015 1:23:35 AM PDT by Zenjitsuman (New Boss Nancy Pelosi)
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To: Berlin_Freeper

tm


7 posted on 07/27/2015 1:25:00 AM PDT by Berlin_Freeper
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To: Zenjitsuman

Trump walked away, no one refused him.

He likes to own the stage, not share it and be asked questions.


8 posted on 07/27/2015 1:28:30 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Zenjitsuman

Trump knows this is Bush-league stuff... the attention follows him, he need not chase after it. His Twitter feed has many times more eyes on it than this will have.


9 posted on 07/27/2015 1:29:33 AM PDT by Bobalu (If we live to see 2017 we will be kissing the ground)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Trump doesn’t like Unions, and they don’t like him?


10 posted on 07/27/2015 1:31:01 AM PDT by MaxMax (Call the local GOP and ask how you can support CRUZ for POTUS,)
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To: Bobalu
Maybe trump will follow live on his Twitter and respond accordingly for
his supporters. I'm not for Trump but I find this to be very interesting
in the games for the Throne.
11 posted on 07/27/2015 1:33:12 AM PDT by MaxMax (Call the local GOP and ask how you can support CRUZ for POTUS,)
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To: MaxMax

http://www.politico.com/story/2015/07/will-the-real-donald-trump-please-stand-up-120607.html

.....“Unions still have a place in American society,” [Trump] wrote in 2000. “In fact, with the globalization craze in full heat, unions are about the only political force reminding us to remember the American working family.” Trump singled out Teamsters President Jim Hoffa for particular praise: “His knees don’t jerk, and if anyone knows how to bring the Teamsters back to their rightful place at the table, Jim is that man.”

Trump’s uncharacteristic moderation about non-public labor unions reflects his occupational need, as a real estate developer operating in the Northeast, to get along with them. Bob McDevitt, president of UNITE HERE! Local 54 in Atlantic City, said “there has never been any kind of evidence of any kind of union animus with any of the entities he operated” there.

Given an opportunity earlier this month to revise his view of unions, Trump did not. “I have great relationships with unions,” he told Newsweek’s Matthew Cooper. Trump is himself a union member, collecting a $110,228 annual pension from the Screen Actors Guild, according to his financial disclosure. Cooper has written that the influx of white working-class voters into the GOP since 2000 makes Trump’s eclecticism not a weakness, but a strength, because Trump aligns with their opposition to trade deals and cutting Social Security and Medicare.........


12 posted on 07/27/2015 1:33:48 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

who will pander to the leftists first????


13 posted on 07/27/2015 1:34:22 AM PDT by RginTN
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

“Jeb Bush”

Terry Schiavo


14 posted on 07/27/2015 1:35:53 AM PDT by dsc (Any attempt to move a government to the left is a crime against humanity.)
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To: RginTN

You’d think Trump would welcome another stage.

Why won’t he face his fellow GOP candidates?


15 posted on 07/27/2015 1:37:13 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Ditto. I like Trump’s outspokeness but I don’t trust him given his past record of supporting liberalism. I need to know has he changed? What made him change? He needs to answer these questions

Cruz has my vote for now.


16 posted on 07/27/2015 1:40:49 AM PDT by RginTN
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To: RginTN
Trump should have been in the first debate, which will not be a debate, but two hours of choreographed talking heads and THAT is/was the problem

Donald Trump does not do bobble head at all ... doesn't play well with others, and is the darling of the pissed off American electorate


Trump should have been allowed to shoot his mouth off if for no other reason than to see if he would commit suicide

By keeping him out, they solidify his position in the hearts of aforementioned POA

17 posted on 07/27/2015 1:45:21 AM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but they're true)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
He has many personal traits that resemble Obama. One of these is incredibly thin skin. Strangely, this has become true for his fan club as well. Neither of these two could ever have a good laugh at their own expense. Trumps ability to answer questions beyond an insult and a quip is yet to be demonstrated. And his previous support for abortion, Liberal Democrats, and gun control show that Trump is flip flopping his way into the conservative movement. I suspect he'll go full Perot unless everyone on the conservative side bows to him and makes him their leader.
18 posted on 07/27/2015 1:46:52 AM PDT by elhombrelibre (Against Obama. Against Putin. Pro-freedom. Pro-US Constitution.)
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To: knarf
By keeping him out, they solidify his position in the hearts of aforementioned POA

Who is keeping him out?

19 posted on 07/27/2015 1:47:15 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Zenjitsuman

If you read the article, it was Trump who dumped them because they’d said something unflattering about him. We must flatter Donald.


20 posted on 07/27/2015 1:48:06 AM PDT by elhombrelibre (Against Obama. Against Putin. Pro-freedom. Pro-US Constitution.)
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