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When will Jim banish Trump supporters from FR, like he did with Giuliani advocates? [JR @ 305]
one man's opinion...

Posted on 07/25/2015 2:15:15 PM PDT by ken5050

On 4/23/2007, Jim Robinson posted a manifesto, "Giuliani as the GOP presidential nominee would be a dagger in the heart of the conservative movement" (and a knife in the back) . The thread was subtitled, "The only difference in a Liberal Rudy Giuliani and Liberal Hillary Clinton is the fact of which bathrooms they select to use and there are some who are willing to even question that.

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KEYWORDS: 2016election; bancruzers; cruz; cruztroll; election2016; elections; faq; frisablog; giulianisupporters; ken5050; newyork; notyourbar; tedcruz; trump; vanityfail; zot
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To: conservativejoy
Jim seems to be quite supportive of Trump, if you have been paying attention.

Seems like that to me!

41 posted on 07/25/2015 2:36:27 PM PDT by dennisw (The first principle is to find out who you are then you can achieve anything -- Buddhist monk)
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To: ken5050
2016 is going to be difficult for democrats to win after the last eight years of Barry. The best way for a liberal democrat to win is to run as a republican.

Trump is the liberal democrat running as a republican.

When Bill Clinton ran we had a billionaire, Ross Perot help him to win the election. Next year, I think we will have another billionaire Trump run to help another Clinton, or to win himself and then cast aside the foolish conservatives who voted for him.

42 posted on 07/25/2015 2:36:35 PM PDT by Moorings
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To: ken5050
You still don't get it. I am 100% for Ted Cruz, but I will back Donald Trump against the GOPe and the mainstream media any day. A lot of people on FR are defending Trump because he is effectively taking on The three biggest threats to this country 1. The really evil mainstream media. 2. The GOPe 3. The open borders that is allowing the unhinged controlled flow of hordes of Mexican, Guatemalan etc killers and criminals of all sorts. This is not about Trump being conservative. We know what his history is. It's about Trump being an effective fighter against our mortal enemies.
43 posted on 07/25/2015 2:37:00 PM PDT by SmokingJoe
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To: ken5050
Trump is NOT a conservative. . . . What Trump IS, is a narcissistic, megalomaniacal, bloviating asshole. It is beyond me how so many self-proclaimed conservatives here at FR could be supporting this clown. He is utterly unfit to serve as NYC Sanitation Commissioner, let alone as President.

Agree, 100%.

44 posted on 07/25/2015 2:37:00 PM PDT by Charles Henrickson
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To: ken5050

You could always start your own website.

Then you could ban anyone you want to.

45 posted on 07/25/2015 2:37:20 PM PDT by Califreak (Hope and Che'nge is killing U.S. Feel the Trump-mentum!)
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To: ken5050

Circumstance do change. Eight years ago is a long time.

46 posted on 07/25/2015 2:37:39 PM PDT by Red Steel (Ted Cruz: 'I'm a Big Fan of Donald Trump')
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To: ken5050
There was a lady from Tulsa, Oklahoma, named S.E. Hinton who wrote a most excellent novel called "That was then, this is now".

There's your answer.

47 posted on 07/25/2015 2:38:20 PM PDT by OKSooner (Chamberlain at least loved his country, please don't insult his memory by comparing him to 0.)
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To: ken5050

Why can’t we all get along? (Rodney King)

48 posted on 07/25/2015 2:38:45 PM PDT by WorkingClassFilth
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To: ken5050
I am against the banning of Trump supporters on this forum, in large part because I am a Trump supporter and I like it here on Free Republic. I would not like to be banned.

Also, I don't remember "hundreds and hundreds" of Freepers being banned during the Rudy Giuliani run. Are you sure you are correct about that? I don't even remember much about the Giuliani campaign except it was a short lived train wreck. I think his strategy was to bypass the early primary contests and focus on making a good showing in the Florida primary.

Not that I can say I blamed him. Iowa and New Hampshire are bitter cold in January and February and Florida is a nice place to be in those months. But he had a poor showing in Florida and had to drop from the race.

As for Trump, I still can't figure out his hair. But he seems to be an ardent campaigner, in fact he was giving a speech in Iowa today for over an hour, without a teleprompter, and got some good crowds. This is months before the Iowa caucus. There is still a lot of corn growing out there. But this did not stop Trump from campaigning there, bad hair and all.

49 posted on 07/25/2015 2:39:27 PM PDT by SamAdams76
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To: ken5050
All I have to submit are some Trump threads from the past.

Trump; "War in Iraq is worse than Vietnam."

Donald Trump on Larry King Live just said...


Rudy Giuliani in Drag Smooching Donald Trump

The Donald: Time for Bush to go into 'hiding'

Trump offers the kilted curmudgeon standing in the way of his golf resort £1million - and is turned down

Donald Trump would fire Bush, hire Obama, he says at Scottish golf hearing

Trump Endorses McCain

Feels Like Socialism … But I Like It: Trump[Donald Trump]

CAPTION leftist Moammer/Moammar Kaddafy/Gadhafi/el Gaddafi/Qadhafi/Khadafy on Trump's porch

Report Says Large Tent on Estate Owned by Donald Trump May be for Libyan Dictator Gadhafi - Video

Donald Trump on Obama and the Economy

50 posted on 07/25/2015 2:39:36 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Sad fact, most people just want a candidate to tell them what they want to hear)
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To: humblegunner
Jim might ZOT you and your little dog, too


51 posted on 07/25/2015 2:40:40 PM PDT by DeoVindiceSicSemperTyrannis
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To: datura


52 posted on 07/25/2015 2:41:32 PM PDT by smoothsailing
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To: Lazamataz

Dittos to you.

I don’t support Trump, but agree with his right to speak and am happy he is roughing up the Republican Establishment.

Its about time someone took on the GOPe, their anointed candidate Jeb Bush and his offensive line including the likes of Rick Perry, George Pataki, Lindsey Graham etc. etc. etc.

I ran against the GOPe as a candidate for public office once and my upfront, forthright presentation of tough issues forced the Establishment candidate to talk about those issues when he otherwise wouldn’t have.

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To: humblegunner; Jim Robinson
be in a ditch.


54 posted on 07/25/2015 2:43:12 PM PDT by NoCmpromiz (John 14:6 is a non-pluralistic comment.)
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To: ken5050

You perhaps may not understand what’s really going on right now, a least for now. People are not judging Trump in isolation in the merits, the issues, right now. We are appreciating hat he is opening up the space for debate, which the GOP had sealed up airtight, and had no intention of going off-script-they will even cooperate with each other’s candidacies this far, in order to avoid having introduced, uncomfortable (for them) topics and issues. Trump has ruined that little “cooperation amngst colleagues” party for them. The media knew it too, knew that conservatives are suffocating for having our issues asked, and asked without having them framed in such a way that the answers we require must be addressed. I’m not explaining this well I hope you get my bottom line underneath all the verbiage.

Now, if Trump manages to blow the airtight little bubble wide-open (which isn’t a done deal, not yet, but he’s made some serious first cracks), and someone like Cruz can take advantage of the incoming oxygen (forced upon the media) to have to ask questions and receive and publish answers which address the concerns of conservatives, then we can begin to assess Trump differently. But eight now, he’s doing us (and the few real conservative candidates) a huge service by forcing the media, and the GOP, to acknowledge and address issues they want to ignore, and address them without their usual weaseling out of giving relevant answers.

55 posted on 07/25/2015 2:45:46 PM PDT by mrsmel (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: ken5050

I have been on FR for over eleven years and I believe Trump is doing a service to our cause. He has the money and the PR savvy to expose the GOPe and the cronyism with the immigration, large government, anti-traditional American lobbies. As long as he continues on that track I say support his efforts. Cruz is a real conservative and is fighting the good fight in the Senate doing the same.

56 posted on 07/25/2015 2:46:51 PM PDT by georgiarat (Obama, providing incompetence since Day One!!)
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To: ken5050

Mighty “brave” of you to post this nonsense with a hit and run.

You posted this nonsense. Why don’t you hang around and join the
conversation on the thread you created instead of hiding.

57 posted on 07/25/2015 2:47:44 PM PDT by tennmountainman ("Prophet Mountainman" Predicter Of All Things RINO...for a small pittance.)
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To: SamAdams76

IMHO, Trump’s hair started out as a bad comb over....that has become a trademark.

I’m still wondering how he got it to fit under a ball cap when he was at the border. :)

58 posted on 07/25/2015 2:47:56 PM PDT by berdie
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To: SunkenCiv

You. Always with the mangled genitals, you.

59 posted on 07/25/2015 2:48:39 PM PDT by martin_fierro (< | :)~)
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To: ken5050
Trump is NOT a conservative.

Yes he is.

He is not even a Republican. He was a registered Democrat from 2001-2009.

No, he is a conservative

He has given far more to Democrats than to Republicans.

He was trying to do business in a world that politicians set up.

For most of his life, he was strongly, and proudly pro-choice. IOW, he was OK with killing babies.

People are not allowed to change?

"He will NOT pledge to support the eventual Republican nominee, and will not promise to NOT run a third-party race."

Why would he when it is the republicans threatening him. Would you if you were in his shoes?

60 posted on 07/25/2015 2:48:41 PM PDT by Amntn
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