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Why Pope Francis Is Keeping His Hammer-and-Sickle Crucifix
National Review ^ | 07/14/2015 | Dennis Prager

Posted on 07/14/2015 5:15:41 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

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To: kinsman redeemer

It is a basic Catholic tenet. Not necessarily one of mine. Though if one is true in her or his faith....


101 posted on 07/14/2015 7:11:12 AM PDT by onedoug
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To: Bigg Red
You bet! I was trying to make the point, remember when Jesus asked the disciples after some of them left because they could not bear to hear what he was teaching about eating his flesh and drinking his blood? They said teacher where would we go?
102 posted on 07/14/2015 7:15:24 AM PDT by defconw (Fight all error, and do it with good humor, patience, kindness and love. -St. John Cantius)
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To: IrishBrigade

The Gates of Hell shall not prevail!


103 posted on 07/14/2015 7:16:10 AM PDT by Bigg Red (Let's put the ship of state on Cruz Control with Ted Cruz.)
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To: FourtySeven

Well said!


104 posted on 07/14/2015 7:17:12 AM PDT by Bigg Red (Let's put the ship of state on Cruz Control with Ted Cruz.)
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To: defconw

Awesome. There will likely be Missals up front you can borrow as well.

Yeah, they are usually in a crummy part of town. They love us! LOL But the good thing is it’s Sunday morning and the no-goodniks are usually not awake yet. :)

On the chapel veils, depends where you go. At our parish, most women wear them but not all. But other places might be more strict about it. I’d think it’d be prudent to bring a hat or something just in case. Or in a pinch, many places have extra veils up front.


105 posted on 07/14/2015 7:17:32 AM PDT by Claud
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To: Ethan Clive Osgoode

This is the typical style of SSPX argumentation. Lies and deceptions.

Hmmm...actually, the biggest lie going on here is that the SSPX is in actual schism...but that’s another topic for another day...

I noted they practice the same worship as the Church up until 1964; you asserted they are schismatic and deceptive in their worship...so for you to be logically consistent, you cannot maintain that identical worship is okay for one entity (the pre-conciliar Church) but not for another (SSPX)...

but, then again, I suspect you believe disobedience to the postconcilar Church to be the problem...so be it...


106 posted on 07/14/2015 7:18:33 AM PDT by IrishBrigade (build)
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To: Ethan Clive Osgoode

Fellay is not crazy. Williamson is crazy.

Look, I’m not an apologist for the SSPX but let’s not throw accusations around. The Vatican has been backing down from calling them schismatics, and Fellay has been very clear about his desire for regularization.


107 posted on 07/14/2015 7:21:06 AM PDT by Claud
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To: IrishBrigade
I noted they practice the same worship as the Church up until 1964; you asserted they are schismatic and deceptive in their worship...

Typical SSPX stype of lie/deception. I said their writings were full of lies and deceptions. Such as your writings for example.

108 posted on 07/14/2015 7:22:59 AM PDT by Ethan Clive Osgoode (<<== Click here to learn about Evolution!)
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To: Claud

Cool! Good to be prepared. :)


109 posted on 07/14/2015 7:23:36 AM PDT by defconw (Fight all error, and do it with good humor, patience, kindness and love. -St. John Cantius)
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To: Claud
Fellay has been very clear about his desire for regularization.

I'm reading a Fellay article right now. Yes, he's crazy. It's just that Williamson is more crazy.

110 posted on 07/14/2015 7:25:58 AM PDT by Ethan Clive Osgoode (<<== Click here to learn about Evolution!)
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To: defconw

Oh, thank you for clarifying that. Hugs.


111 posted on 07/14/2015 7:26:13 AM PDT by Bigg Red (Let's put the ship of state on Cruz Control with Ted Cruz.)
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To: Partisan Gunslinger

No, we’re not doing this here. Start a new thread in the Religion forum, and I’ll tackle all that baloney there.


112 posted on 07/14/2015 7:28:03 AM PDT by Claud
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To: Bigg Red

Hugs back! :) I just don’t see me ever leaving the Church. There might be crap going on now that I don’t like. We all know there has been crap in the past that I didn’t like, but it’s where I will stay.


113 posted on 07/14/2015 7:28:27 AM PDT by defconw (Fight all error, and do it with good humor, patience, kindness and love. -St. John Cantius)
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To: SeekAndFind

He is not upset with the gift, he merely found the visuals embarrassing and inconvenient.


114 posted on 07/14/2015 7:31:03 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: The Antiyuppie; All

Please explain what you mean by “this clown’, “that clown”, “the big clown”.


115 posted on 07/14/2015 7:31:52 AM PDT by itssme
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To: C. Edmund Wright

>>Maybe the organized church is not the future of “the church” - as in the body of Christ.

Without the organized church, we all tend to do what is right in our own eyes. The Holy Spirit tells us all the same thing, and we each hear the parts we like.

I’m a PCA Presbyterian and I have some friends who are in the apostate PCUSA. They do not follow the bible, or the Confession, or even the basics of Reformed theology. They just follow culture. Whatever culture wants, their church does in a foolish attempt to be “relevant”.

The problem isn’t with organized church. The problem is with making sure you select the right organized church and being able to walk away when they go off the rails.


116 posted on 07/14/2015 7:34:30 AM PDT by Bryanw92 (Sic semper tyrannis)
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To: SeekAndFind
I'm not Catholic.

Not that it matters.

But this guy is really beginning to disturb me.

He is all over the place and I'm not talking about his travels, either.

117 posted on 07/14/2015 7:35:52 AM PDT by OldSmaj (obama is a worthless mohametan. Impeach his ass now!)
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To: Claud

It *was never abrogated*, and it is the right of EVERY priest of the Latin Church to say it, as per Summorum Pontificum

come now...that which hasn’t been abrogated yet, is easily abrogated tomorrow, should the powers that be wish it...and SP confers a right not a duty...no one has to ‘take it away’; one has only to ignore it...

What a ridiculous statement. St. Josephine Bakhita. The Ugandan martyrs. The Catholics in Nigeria and elsewhere whose lives are threatened by jihadist freaks everytime they walk to Church

OK, fair enough; my question was poorly structured. But you seem to think strong leadership will come from a continent which has a long,long history of dysfunctional governance at all levels...good luck with that...


118 posted on 07/14/2015 7:37:08 AM PDT by IrishBrigade (build)
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To: ilgipper

Kerosene. Stake. Simplicio has to go.


119 posted on 07/14/2015 7:40:13 AM PDT by sitetest (If Roe is not overturned, no unborn child will ever be protected in law.)
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To: SeekAndFind

bfl


120 posted on 07/14/2015 7:54:07 AM PDT by BlatherNaut
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