Posted on 06/28/2015 4:59:21 AM PDT by tje
I have no clear idea of the existence nor location of a marriage license or certificate
—yep—this is only the start-—
It's kind of a Catch-22. Those who want the government to do things for them (or have figured out how to make money thereby) tend towards group action, and have figured out how to grow the beast. The rest of us really just want to be left alone, and that's not how voting blocs & political machines work.
We do have ideas (the Constitution, for one), but it doesn't "sell" to those with a "social"-ist bent.
The best part about this is that it effectively gives a single state the ability to define a “marriage contract” any way it damn well pleases — even if it includes 75 different people who are all consenting adults.
“That statement certainly doesn’t apply to individuals who bake cakes and choose to avoid baking a cake that goes against their religious beliefs.”
Very simple solution to baking requests is that you have the betrothed couple sign an agreement, whereby the baker, with the exception of the cake color and frosting flavor/color, has sole artistic reign over the ingredients used in the making of the cake.
I promise you, they would never come back, nor send their friends to my bakery for a wedding cake again.
For all his faults in the ObamaCare decisions, Roberts has at least been consistent in his approach on these matters. In all of these controversial cases he weighed heavily in favor of addressing matters through a legislative process rather than a court decision.
Did SCOTUS say you need a permit to get married? No. Open carry for everyone.
Not quite sure what you mean, but my wife and I have a actual marriage license issued from the great state of Texas...
Looks very similar to this
I have several ideas for you:
1. Push for polygamy. This is important because once it goes hand in hand with same-sex "marriage," you effectively give any group of people the power to create a "marriage" that provides all kinds of financial benefits and legal protections for a group of people that can be as simple as a small business or as complex as an organized crime family.
2. Have every person in your "marriage" take advantage of any government benefits or other financial concessions that are afforded to married couples. These would include Social Security benefits, exemptions from the estate tax, insurance coverage for an entire "family," etc. Sign everyone up for food stamps and free school lunches, while you're at it.
Give it 2-3 years and the whole system will collapse.
No, it isn’t. This is total capitulation.
Agree, think about it from a limited government mindset. A "license" to get married? I would not think we should need a license to get married from any government entity state or local.
Agree, 100% !
What choice do they have?
Not sure if I understand all of this but:
If a ‘church’ unites a man and woman in marriage, then isn’t that a God thing? That is what ‘church’ is all about right?
If a ‘courthouse’ per say unites a man and a woman in marriage isn’t that a ‘contract’ thing and it becomes a ‘state’ thing? Isn’t that what States do, contracts?
I remember in the wedding day fog, signing some such document but have no recollection of having seen it since. I know of several of our important documents but nothing similar to what you posted.
Wrong. Marriage is a tenet of religion...the state is not.
How government involvement in Holy Matrimony, is not a violation of "separation of church and state" eludes me.
Is is actually restriced just to humans...and are you sure it's limited to consenting adults?
If it wasn’t for my wife...I would be in the same boat!!!
That is pretty much it.
Really Alabama? You are not going to stop Gay marriage!
Ding! they are free to move around the country and marry.
It is a civil issue, they can receive a marriage license at any municipality.
The Church is for a vow/religious vow before God. This ceremony is a commitment before God. If they, or anyone wish to be married by a religious leader, that leader must somehow understand their commitment to each other and God principles. It is the responsibility of the Shepard.
With this understanding if they agree on the religious commitment of marriage, then by all means. Welcome please sign and see you in the class....next Sunday. Oh and its pot luck so bring a covered dish ;)
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