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How climate-change doubters lost a papal fight
Washington Post ^ | June 20, 2015 | By Anthony Faiola and Chris Mooney

Posted on 06/20/2015 6:13:31 PM PDT by Brad from Tennessee

VATICAN CITY — Pope Francis was about to take a major step backing the science behind ­human-driven global warming, and Philippe de Larminat was determined to change his mind.

A French doubter who authored a book arguing that solar activity — not greenhouse gases — was driving global warming, de Larminat sought a spot at a climate summit in April sponsored by the Vatican’s Pontifical Academy of Sciences. Nobel laureates would be there. So would U.N. Secretary General Ban Ki-moon, U.S. economist Jeffrey Sachs and others calling for dramatic steps to curb carbon emissions.

fter securing a high-level meeting at the Vatican, he was told that, space permitting, he could join. He bought a plane ticket from Paris to Rome. But five days before the April 28 summit, de Larminat said, he received an e-mail saying there was no space left. It came after other scientists — as well as the powerful Vatican bureaucrat in charge of the academy — insisted he had no business being there.

“They did not want to hear an off note,” de Larminat said.

It marked the latest blow for those seeking to stop the reform-minded train that has become Francis’s papacy. It is one that has reinvigorated liberal Catholics even as it has sowed the seeds of resentment and dissent inside and outside the Vatican’s ancient walls. . .

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To: HiTech RedNeck

Last I heard God was in charge of the weather. Remember Noahs flood? How about when Jesus and the Disciples were about overturned by waves while Jesus was asleep? Jesus calmed it right down. The Pope oughta read the Bible sometime and put that United Nations Agenda 21 magazine down.


41 posted on 06/20/2015 7:00:12 PM PDT by BipolarBob
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To: Brad from Tennessee
The present”Lil’ Red Pope” is a Liberation Theology Latrino.

He is so committed to his commie views that had Jesus showed up to present opposing views, Popie Pooh's boss would have been denied a ticket.

As American regret Obama, so too do Catholics regret this Pope.

However, to assume Catholics support the Lil’ Red Pope's forays into politics is analogous to assuming Americans support Obamas "transforming America".

In the case of America, voter fraud bought Obama’s victory. Who paid off whom to get the Lil’ Red Pope elected Pontiff?

42 posted on 06/20/2015 7:02:00 PM PDT by GladesGuru (Islam Delenda Est. Because of what Islam is - and because of what Muslims do.)
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To: BipolarBob

It just does not sound like the promise that the seasons would go on until the “end” (which is supernatural).

This is the bad vibrations pope....


43 posted on 06/20/2015 7:02:09 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: Brad from Tennessee

When we will we read: How Galileo lost a Papal fight over helio-centrism?


44 posted on 06/20/2015 7:02:13 PM PDT by MIchaelTArchangel
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To: Brad from Tennessee

So Christians are people who believe in a “hoax” about “an invisible man in the sky” but the Left is all willing to declare the Pope is “right” when he sides with them on the issue of redistribution and punitive measures against the West because of the sin of Man-Made Global Warming.

The pope called it immoral. It is immoral to lie about man’s effect on the weather. It is immoral to cook the books to justify Marxism.


45 posted on 06/20/2015 7:02:22 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (Funny how Hollywood's 'No Nukes' crowd has been silent during Obama's Iranian nuclear negotiations.)
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To: Brad from Tennessee
This Pope loses credibility pushing the anthropogenic global warming scam, which is nothing but a left wing power/control grab.
Why he does so given the left's history of pushing the primacy of the state over religion is extremely disturbing.
46 posted on 06/20/2015 7:02:47 PM PDT by Amagi (Lenin: "Socialized Medicine is the Keystone to the Arch of the Socialist State.")
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To: ClearCase_guy
From Francis's first appearance, I felt the goose bumps. Not nice goose bumps, but bad ones. All this "bad translator" baloney. Even Rush fell into the "but he talks against abortion" plausible deniability. Yes, Rush, page twenty, paragraph E, phrase 11…

Francis is constructing a Tower of Babel. Such it was in the time of Noah.

47 posted on 06/20/2015 7:02:54 PM PDT by Mamzelle
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To: RightGeek

Classic pope... oh groan.

But it would be an improvement


48 posted on 06/20/2015 7:03:03 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: GladesGuru

Same folks.


49 posted on 06/20/2015 7:06:34 PM PDT by RedHeeler (...)
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To: HiTech RedNeck
This pope according to some quotes is proud of his ignorance about affairs around the world.

Feigning ignorance of things about which one is well aware is one of the hallmarks of the con artist.

50 posted on 06/20/2015 7:07:57 PM PDT by Poison Pill
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To: RedHeeler

Not a lot of “regret” in the popularity research statistics!


51 posted on 06/20/2015 7:08:00 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: Poison Pill

Well, in this case it could be genuine, but power-driven. There is a tangible influence to be had by believing in the hippie version of the world. So rather than be curious, he goes along with it.

This is perfectly in line with actual Christian belief, which posits the devil as the first actual con artist.


52 posted on 06/20/2015 7:10:42 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck
So rather than be curious, he goes along with it.

That's possible. Who knows what's in a man's mind. He seems to have a world view about which he can not be disabused.

53 posted on 06/20/2015 7:16:17 PM PDT by Poison Pill
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To: Brad from Tennessee

Catholics should start compiling lists of Eco-sins to confess. Watering the lawn on a non-authorized day of the week, discarding of dead batteries in the garbage can rather than recycling, owning an older, less efficient A/C unit, removing the shower head flow restrictor, etc. Confess nothing but that nonsense for the next year or so, then post notes online describing the priests’ reactions.


54 posted on 06/20/2015 7:17:19 PM PDT by Charles Martel (Endeavor to persevere...)
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To: Poison Pill

Spiritual leadings can end in great devotion. That isn’t the problem.

The nature of the spiritual leading is the problem — this is what is going to dictate what this devotion is going to look like in the end.

Believe in a redeeming Christ, your life will bespeak that.

Believe in rainbows and unicorns, your life will look like rainbows and unicorns.


55 posted on 06/20/2015 7:18:20 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: Charles Martel
Catholics should start compiling lists of Eco-sins to confess. Watering the lawn on a non-authorized day of the week, discarding of dead batteries in the garbage can rather than recycling, owning an older, less efficient A/C unit, removing the shower head flow restrictor, etc.

A Cloward-Piven type protest. That's funny!

56 posted on 06/20/2015 7:20:02 PM PDT by Poison Pill
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To: Charles Martel

It’s been bandied around before what this might look like in the confessional.

What is the sin here? The sin of doing evil things to the globe?

What is enough contrition for Gaia? I wonder if it isn’t enough for her until you become extinct.


57 posted on 06/20/2015 7:21:46 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: BipolarBob

Of course God is in charge of the weather, to paraphrase Michael Critchon, Global Warming is a religion for people who want to believe in something other than God. One big reason I left the Episcopal Church was their downplaying of the miracles wrought by God in the Bible as stories. Now it appears that the Pope is downplaying the power of God as well.


58 posted on 06/20/2015 7:24:43 PM PDT by Morpheus2009
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To: Brad from Tennessee

The story of how this man was frozen out by Vatican goons is perfectly consistent with what we know about Bergoglio: His mind closed many years ago. In Buenos Aires, he exiled any priests who disagreed with him to the farthest corners of the archdiocese, and never talked to them. As Pope, he has behaved the same way.

Many tried to save the Pope, but he wants to live in a collectivist, Leftist bubble. He has disgraced himself for all time as a useful idiot of the totalitarian Left, and an abuser of Papal authority.

The mystery of Francis is over. He is a conventional crypto-Marxist Latin American bishop.


59 posted on 06/20/2015 7:28:44 PM PDT by Arthur McGowan
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To: HiTech RedNeck

Especially downplaying the fact that God is in charge of the weather, the climate, or considering how big the universe is, he would be in charge of supernova and quasars. And yet this Pope is going in the way of downplaying miracles and the power of God himself. That’s essentially what Global warming is all about. Not believing in the power of God.


60 posted on 06/20/2015 7:29:49 PM PDT by Morpheus2009
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