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What gun law would have prevented Dylann Roof from murdering 9 people?
6/18/15 | Self

Posted on 06/18/2015 6:09:57 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants

Liberals up to and including the president are already using the tragedy at the SC church to try to advance gun control, so it begs the question, what gun control law would have prevented the tragedy?

Assault weapon bans are a favorite of anti gunners basically because they are scary looking and have large magazines. Yet reports say Roof reloaded up to 5 times. Clearly a new AWB would not have prevented the massacre.

What about universal registration? The answer is simple, it wouldn't. Universal registration is only valuable to the police to track the last person who bought the gun from a licensed dealer.

And the latest darling of the anti-gunners, universal background checks for all gun transfers. From the news reports the shooter had never been convicted of a felony or domestic violence so even if he had to pass a background check, he would have passed.

Then there is the old standby, waiting periods before you can take possession of a firearm. Wouldn't have helped since he obtained the firearm months before the crime. Besides if someone is planning to commit a mass killing, they would not be deterred by waiting a few days or even a few months. It didn't stop Adam Lanza from murdering his mother and taking her guns.

Anti-gunners would love to force everyone to undergo a psychological evaluation before "allowing" them to own a firearm. To a liberal wanting to own a firearm is enough evidence to say you are too paranoid to have one. However, that aside, Dylan Roof's friends all say that aside from the occasional racist joke, he showed no signs of murderous racism and no mental disorder. Also, almost anyone who was planning on murdering multiple people would be clever enough to conceal it from a psychologist.

So what does that leave? Total confiscation from the public? Besides being unconstitutional, it would start a civil war that would not be pretty. Also it didn't stop a person in China from getting a gun and shooting 5 people.

So, tell me, Mr. President, what would have prevented this?


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: dylannroof; guns; murder; secondamendment
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To: Blood of Tyrants
Also it didn't stop a person in China from getting a gun and shooting 5 people.

NINE people. Killed four.

LazamaResearch

41 posted on 06/18/2015 7:14:31 PM PDT by Lazamataz (The new GOP slogan: "Vote for us!!! We're 0.000015% less evil than the Democrats!!!")
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To: tumblindice

How would the lefties feel if they had to submit a request every time they wanted to write an article or letter to the editor.


42 posted on 06/18/2015 7:15:22 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (A free society canÂ’t let the parameters of its speech be set by murderous Islamists.)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

But ultimately it isn’t about stopping crime, it is about controlling the populace, so they can trickle out ineffective gun control chipping away at rights, until law abiding citizens have no real gun rights left.


43 posted on 06/18/2015 7:15:29 PM PDT by Wayne07
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To: MrShoop

True. It’s not about guns. It’s about control.


44 posted on 06/18/2015 7:17:34 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (A free society canÂ’t let the parameters of its speech be set by murderous Islamists.)
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To: Chickensoup

Had this been a normal Sunday service, I would expect some parishioners would have been armed. I believe it was just a small prayer group in the church at the time. Tragic.


45 posted on 06/18/2015 7:17:45 PM PDT by JoeRed
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To: Blood of Tyrants
Also it didn't stop a person in China from getting a gun and shooting 5 people.

AND... btw.. that carnage happened on Jun 9, 2015.

So it's not even 'old news'.

46 posted on 06/18/2015 7:22:14 PM PDT by Lazamataz (The new GOP slogan: "Vote for us!!! We're 0.000015% less evil than the Democrats!!!")
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To: Blood of Tyrants

Requiring everyone to carry some type of firearm would’ve prevented this trash from even thinking about it.


47 posted on 06/18/2015 7:28:20 PM PDT by <1/1,000,000th%
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To: Blood of Tyrants

Chemical sub-trance meds, and a good solid “I hug Myself” jacket. White people[males] in particular, need extensive restraint. As, obviated by this un/or castrated event. Clearly, you asked a great question. Thank You


48 posted on 06/18/2015 7:28:57 PM PDT by RedHeeler
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To: Blood of Tyrants

Nothing that could pass Constitutional muster.


49 posted on 06/18/2015 8:19:55 PM PDT by Johnny Navarone
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To: ButThreeLeftsDo

NOT ELCA approved !!!


50 posted on 06/18/2015 8:55:49 PM PDT by TurboZamboni (Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable.-JFK)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

Maybe if if CCW weren’t banned in churches in SC?


51 posted on 06/18/2015 9:00:47 PM PDT by Ghost of Philip Marlowe (Carter...Reagan...Bush...Clinton....Bush....Carter....BUSH? / CLINTON? STOP THE INSANITY!)
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To: TurboZamboni

No longer ELCA member.


52 posted on 06/18/2015 9:07:33 PM PDT by ButThreeLeftsDo (You Don"t Need To Wait For The Next FReepathon To Make A Donation.)
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To: Blood of Tyrants
"I truly want to know what law would have prevented this."

Repeal of the Community Mental Health Act of 1963 that deinstitutionalized all the crazies.

Otherwise mandatory CCW for everyone. If you want to have a society with free-range crazy people, the only possible way is for the sane people to lock themselves in cages and carry guns.

53 posted on 06/18/2015 9:12:57 PM PDT by Sooth2222 ("In a democracy people get the leaders they deserve." - Joseph de Maistre, 1753-1821)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

> But that is a pro-gun law. What anti-gun law would have prevented it?

He only asked for a gun law.

The best anti-gun is another gun.


54 posted on 06/19/2015 2:11:56 AM PDT by UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide (Reverse Wickard v Filburn (1942) - and - ISLAM DELENDA EST)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

No law would have prevented it. What might have prevented it is some better understanding of what could constitute behaviors that lead up to this.

The shooter’s friend hid a gun from him one time, some family member (by some accounts) gave him the gun. However it is a pretty good bet that most people he contacted over the last year had some idea that there were issues in his head.

However even IF they had called the police or mental health folks at best they would have delayed the event. Even without a gun the guy could have used 5 gallons of gasoline and done the same thing.

Unless and until the nation is ready to admit that nut jobs need to be taken seriously these acts will continue. The hell with treating them too - develop some suitable method to remove them from society.

I live where there is a state mental hospital. We are over run with people walking around talking to themselves. They are right on the knife edge of freaking out. At times these folks are scary. And there is no doubt among most sane people which of the self talkers are dangerous. Now if the general population can figure it out why can’t the professionals?


55 posted on 06/19/2015 3:30:54 AM PDT by msrngtp2002 (Just my opinion.)
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To: Blood of Tyrants
Abolishment of all current gun laws IAW the Constitution would be the best bet.

Of course, on the Left, the physical confiscation of all weapons would be the ticket.

I vote for the first proposition...

56 posted on 06/19/2015 4:04:40 AM PDT by trebb (Where in the the hell has my country gone?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Many white evangelical and charismatic (and some others) have their leaders and ushers armed.

As well as members of the congregation!

57 posted on 06/19/2015 4:10:16 AM PDT by 2nd amendment mama ( www.2asisters.org | Self defense is a basic human right!)
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To: backwoods-engineer

Completely agree.


58 posted on 06/19/2015 4:19:20 AM PDT by 2nd amendment mama ( www.2asisters.org | Self defense is a basic human right!)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

There is a law on the books in South Carolina that says a convicted felon or a person awaiting trial on a felony cannot own a firearm. Yet the kids father bought him the pistol.


59 posted on 06/19/2015 4:31:26 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: Ghost of Philip Marlowe

I wouldn’t be a member of a church that restricted my right to self-protection!


60 posted on 06/19/2015 4:35:58 AM PDT by 2nd amendment mama ( www.2asisters.org | Self defense is a basic human right!)
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