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190 Republicans who voted to ignore 2/3 vote requirement for trade treaty (TPP)
6-18-15 | johnwk

Posted on 06/18/2015 4:02:50 PM PDT by JOHN W K


CLICK HERE for the list of House Republicans who spat upon our Constitution today and ignored its expressed requirement for a two thirds approval vote for any deals cooked up by our president with foreign powers. In effect, these Republicans have unconstitutionally lowered the two thirds requirement to a simple majority to approve deals consummated by our president with foreign powers and engaged in the same despotic action the President has engaged in when signing Executive Orders that violate statutory law and/or our Constitution’s written provisions.

These Republican turncoat and lying scoundrels tell us that the Pacific Rim deal is not a treaty and therefore they are not required to observe the two thirds approval required by our Constitution for a treaty. But their lie is exposed when recalling the words of our founders with regard to the meaning of a treaty as they used and understood the word. So, what is meant by a “treaty” as expressed by our Founders?

In
Federalist No. 64 Jay defines a treaty as a “bargain” . He writes:

”These gentlemen would do well to reflect that a treaty is only another name for a bargain, and that it would be impossible to find a nation who would make any bargain with us, which should be binding on them ABSOLUTELY, but on us only so long and so far as we may think proper to be bound by it.”


And in
Federalist No. 75 Hamilton tells us with reference to a treaty, Its objects are CONTRACTS with foreign nations, which have the force of law…”

Finally, In
Federalist No. 22 Hamilton talks about “a treaty of commerce” as follows:

”A nation, with which we might have a treaty of commerce, could with much greater facility prevent our forming a connection with her competitor in trade, though such a connection should be ever so beneficial to ourselves.”

The irrefutable fact is, the
Trans-Pacific Partnership (TPP) Free Trade Agreement falls within the meaning of a treaty as the word was used and understood by our founding fathers, and as such, requires a two thirds vote to become an enforceable contract, or bargain with the nations involved.

Our founding fathers, who lived under a despotic King, were fearful of creating an omnipotent president when framing our Constitution, and they carefully limited his powers significantly by a number of provisions in our Constitution, one being the two thirds vote requirement as mentioned above for treaties. And to give an example of how much our founders feared an omnipotent president, they even refused giving the President Line-Item Veto Power! And with respect to the reasons for this denial of power to the president, Benjamin Franklin, on June 4th of the Constitutional Convention reminds the delegates how they suffered under that power. He says:

'”The negative of the governor was constantly made use of to extort money. No good law whatever could be passed without a private bargain with him. An increase of salary or some donation, was always made a condition; till at last, it became the regular practice to have orders in his favor on the treasury presented along with the bills to be signed, so that he might actually receive the former before he should sign the latter. When the Indians were scalping the Western people, and notice of it arrived, the concurrence of the governor in the means of self-defense could not be got, until it was agreed that the people were to fight for the security of his property, whilst he was to have no share of the burdens of taxation.''

So, here we are today, and instead of our Republican members in the House being loyal to their oath of office, they reject a constitutional provision designed to insure there is a substantial support for any deals made by our president with foreign powers before they can become enforceable law. Not only have these 190 Republicans violated their oath of office, but they have engaged in a despotic act of tyranny!

We have been amply warned in THE OLD GUARD, A MONTHLY JOURNAL DEVOTED TO THE PRINCIPLES OF 1776 AND 1787, that:

"When a free people submit to oppressive acts, passed in violation of their constitution, for a single day, they have thrown down the palladium of their liberty. Submit to despotism for an hour and you concede the principle. John Adams said, in 1775, Nip the shoots of arbitrary power in the bud. It is the only thing a people determined to be free can do. Republics have often failed, and have been succeeded by the most revolting despotisms; and always it was the voice of timidity, cowardice, or false leaders counseling submission, that led to the final downfall of freedom. It was the cowardice and treachery of the Senate of Rome that allowed the usurper to gain power, inch by inch, to overthrow the Republic. The history of the downfall of Republics is the same in all ages. The first inch that is yielded to despotism __ the first blow, dealt at the Constitution, that is not resisted is the beginning of the end of the nation’s ruin."

BTW, here is the list of Senate Republicans who are acting in concert with the above mentioned Republican House members who are working to circumvent our written constitution and its documented legislative intent:

Alexander, Tenn.; Ayotte, N.H.; Barrasso, Wyo.; Blunt, Mo.; Boozman, Ark.; Burr, N.C.; Capito, W.V.; Cassidy, La.; Coats, Ind.; Cochran, Miss.; Corker, Tenn.; Cornyn, Texas; Cotton, Ark.; Crapo, Idaho; Cruz, Texas; Daines, Mont.; Ernst, Iowa; Fischer, Neb.; Flake, Ariz.; Gardner, Colo.; Graham, S.C.; Grassley, Iowa; Hatch, Utah; Heller, Nev.; Hoeven, N.D.; Inhofe, Okla.; Isakson, Ga.; Johnson, Wis.; Kirk, Ill.; Lankford, Okla.; McCain, Ariz.; McConnell, Ky.; Moran, Kan.; Murkowski, Alaska; Perdue, Ga.; Portman, Ohio; Risch, Idaho; Roberts, Kan.; Rounds, S.D.; Rubio, Fla.; Sasse, Neb.; Scott, S.C.; Sullivan, Alaska; Thune, S.D.; Tillis, N.C.; Toomey, Pa.; Vitter, La.; Wicker, Miss.

JWK


" I believe that there are more instances of the abridgement of the freedom of the people by gradual and silent encroachment of those in power than by violent and sudden usurpations." ___ Madison Elliot`s Debates, vol. III, page 87


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 114th; fasttrack; pacificrim; tpp; trade; treason
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To: dennisw
Donald Trump is a giant.megalomaniac

I don't think we need another one of those in the white hut.

121 posted on 06/19/2015 7:18:30 AM PDT by zeugma (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/3294350/posts)
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To: InterceptPoint
Donald Trump is a joke and a bad one. He is a natural Dem. I have no idea what he is doing chasing the Republican nomination.

Because he's on Hillary's team. He'll drop out and run as "independent" when he doesn't get the nomination, to syphon votes from republicans and ensure a Hellary win.

We've seen this movie before. Without a Ross Perot the spoiler, we'd not have had 2 clinton terms.

122 posted on 06/19/2015 7:21:30 AM PDT by zeugma (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/3294350/posts)
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To: JOHN W K

This squashes any favorable idea I had about Cruz. How the f do you vote for something where the details are secret?? Obamacare part II.

We’re on our own.


123 posted on 06/19/2015 7:27:48 AM PDT by WKUHilltopper (And yet...we continue to tolerate this crap...)
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To: JOHN W K

Thanks for your reply. It was very informative. BTW, I’m in awe of the Founders. Please post more often.


124 posted on 06/19/2015 11:24:19 PM PDT by Mr. N. Wolfe
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To: InterceptPoint
Ted Cruz supports keeping the socialist income tax.

JWK

125 posted on 06/20/2015 7:48:46 AM PDT by JOHN W K
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To: JOHN W K

This Obama trade deal is a trojan horse.It’s disguised as “free trade” What It really allows is for Obama to flood the USA with an unlimited number of 3rd world immigrants ...
http://www.thenewamerican.com/usnews/immigration/item/20710-obama-gop-trade-scheme-includes-unrestricted-immigration

http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2015/04/dick_morris_fast_track_could_lead_to_unlimited_immigration.html

This Fast track gives Obama power to make treaties that override U.S. laws. It’s the destruction of the republic.It gives obama unlimited dictatorial power to destroy the U.S. Proof here :

http://getliberty.org/oppose-trade-authority-for-obama-on-pacific-trade-deal/
http://www.conservativehq.com/node/20233


126 posted on 06/20/2015 4:48:16 PM PDT by Democrat_media (Obama illegally got his FCC gestapo to impose SOROS' regulations on Internet)
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To: TexasFreeper2009
fast track negates the 60% needed for cloture on any agreement. you are using little tricks to confuse people. Now Obama gets a 51% up or downn vote , no debate in Congress and no amendments. that means TPP will surely pass. you are for the destruction of America.

some “freepers” here are shilling , lying and spinning to pass the Obama immigration agenda. This TPA will make the passing the the secret TPP a sure thing. Obama has been secretly working on the TPP for 5 years and now the Congress is giving Obama power to pass this with fast track which neuters the Congress
you people are shilling for the destruction of America. no supposed “strong” wording is going to stop Obama as Sessions explains in a link below Obama will get around any wording and import hundreds of millions of 3rd world people as “trade in services

This Obama trade deal is a trojan horse.It’s disguised as “free trade” What It really allows is for Obama to flood the USA with an unlimited number of 3rd world immigrants ...
http://www.thenewamerican.com/usnews/immigration/item/20710-obama-gop-trade-scheme-includes-unrestricted-immigration

http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2015/04/dick_morris_fast_track_could_lead_to_unlimited_immigration.html

This Fast track gives Obama power to make treaties that override U.S. laws. It’s the destruction of the republic.It gives obama unlimited dictatorial power to destroy the U.S. Proof here :

http://getliberty.org/oppose-trade-authority-for-obama-on-pacific-trade-deal/
http://www.conservativehq.com/node/20233

127 posted on 06/20/2015 4:51:11 PM PDT by Democrat_media (Obama illegally got his FCC gestapo to impose SOROS' regulations on Internet)
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To: Democrat_media

The next president can undo anything bad that might come of any future agreement that this leads too the same as they can undo the bad executive orders of Obama.


128 posted on 06/21/2015 7:17:35 AM PDT by TexasFreeper2009 (You can't spell Hillary without using the letters L, I, A, & R)
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To: InterceptPoint

You forgot Mark “God” Levin, he’s against it.

Yeah let’s see, what’s more likely, the vast majority of leftists, unions exc are right and Ted Cruz, Ronald Reagan, and the vast majority of conservatives and business people are wrong. Or, Mark Levin and a few other misguided conservatives are wrong. Hmmmmmmm, such a hard call. ;d


129 posted on 06/23/2015 8:43:02 AM PDT by Impy (They pull a knife, you pull a gun. That's the CHICAGO WAY, and that's how you beat the rats!)
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