190 Republicans who voted to ignore 2/3 vote requirement for trade treaty (TPP)

6-18-15 | johnwk

[JOHN W K]

A few days ago on the Sean Hannity show while Jamie Dupree was on and talking about Fast Track Trade Promotion Authority and the Trans-Pacific Partnership deal cooked up by Obama with a number of foreign nations, he assured Sean to not be worried about the deal because Congress gets to vote on it before it can become law. And Jamie repeatedly pointed this out.

What Jamie Dupree did not say is, if Fast Track Trade Authority passes the House, then the Trans-Pacific Partnership deal cooked up by Obama with a number of foreign nations will not need the constitutionally required two thirds vote threshold for approval as our Constitution commands for any deals the president consummates with foreign powers! Fast Track unconstitutionally lowers the two thirds vote threshold needed to a simple majority vote. And this is an irrefutable violation of our founders clear intentions requiring a two thirds vote to approve any deals our president cooks up with foreign countries!

And why did our wise founding fathers require a two-thirds vote? Hamilton explains why in Federalist No. 75 with respect to the President’s treaty making authority. Hamilton points out the President was not granted an arbitrary power to make “CONTRACTS with foreign nations, which have the force of law” because he:

“might sometimes be under temptations to sacrifice his duty to his interest, which it would require superlative virtue to withstand. An avaricious man might be tempted to betray the interests of the state to the acquisition of wealth. An ambitious man might make his own aggrandizement, by the aid of a foreign power, the price of his treachery to his constituents. The history of human conduct does not warrant that exalted opinion of human virtue which would make it wise in a nation to commit interests of so delicate and momentous a kind, as those which concern its intercourse with the rest of the world, to the sole disposal of a magistrate created and circumstanced as would be a President of the United States.”

In the end, our founders agreed to allow the president to negotiate deals with foreign nations, but only with the constitutional requirement that such deals consummated with foreign countries would not have the force of law unless approved by a two thirds vote in the Senate.

I’m not sure if Jamie Dupree overlooked this critical requirement when discussing FTTPA and the TPP with Sean Hannity, but the facts are what they are and the Fast Track Trade Promotion Authority Bill, having lowered the vote threshold to a simple majority for a deal cooked up by the president with foreign nations is an irrefutable violation of our founders expressed language, not to mention that it is intentionally designed to circumvent Congress’ exclusive power to regulate commerce with foreign nations, and violates our Constitution’s separation of powers. In fact, it is designed to do exactly what our founders forbid in crystal clear language.

JWK



The accumulation of all powers, legislative, executive, and judiciary, in the same hands, whether of one, a few, or many, and whether hereditary, self-appointed, or elective, may justly be pronounced the very definition of tyranny. ___ Madison, Federalist Paper No. 47

[RedHeeler]

Sounds kinda sweaty/greasy/oily/ugly- against who? Our Country, being the people who count Our Nation’s values as being- the primary basic of continuing Human life... Right?

[JOHN W K]

So why do the proponents of the Trans-Pacific Partnership deal, and this includes snakes like Paul Ryan, pretend it is not a treaty? The obvious answer is, to lessen the bribe money which would be needed if a two thirds vote were necessary to approve this traitorous sell out!

And if you think bribery is not taking place on this issue, here is the evidence that members of our Senate have sold their vote!

See:Corporations shell out $1.2mn in Senate contributions to fast-track TPP

“What the documents showed was that out of a total of nearly $1.2 million given, an average of $17,000 was donated to each of the 65 “yes” votes. Republicans received an average of $19,000 and Democrats received $9,700.

“It’s a rare thing for members of Congress to go against the money these days,” Mansur Gidfar, spokesman for the anti-corruption group Represent.Us, told the Guardian. “They know exactly which special interests they need to keep happy if they want to fund their re-election campaigns or secure a future job as a lobbyist.”

And, here is a list of dirt bag traitorous Republican Senators who voted to circumvent our representative system of government and allow the president to usurp Congress' legislative functions:

Alexander, Tenn.; Ayotte, N.H.; Barrasso, Wyo.; Blunt, Mo.; Boozman, Ark.; Burr, N.C.; Capito, W.V.; Cassidy, La.; Coats, Ind.; Cochran, Miss.; Corker, Tenn.; Cornyn, Texas; Cotton, Ark.; Crapo, Idaho; Cruz, Texas; Daines, Mont.; Ernst, Iowa; Fischer, Neb.; Flake, Ariz.; Gardner, Colo.; Graham, S.C.; Grassley, Iowa; Hatch, Utah; Heller, Nev.; Hoeven, N.D.; Inhofe, Okla.; Isakson, Ga.; Johnson, Wis.; Kirk, Ill.; Lankford, Okla.; McCain, Ariz.; McConnell, Ky.; Moran, Kan.; Murkowski, Alaska; Perdue, Ga.; Portman, Ohio; Risch, Idaho; Roberts, Kan.; Rounds, S.D.; Rubio, Fla.; Sasse, Neb.; Scott, S.C.; Sullivan, Alaska; Thune, S.D.; Tillis, N.C.; Toomey, Pa.; Vitter, La.; Wicker, Miss.

JWK


" I believe that there are more instances of the abridgement of the freedom of the people by gradual and silent encroachment of those in power than by violent and sudden usurpations." ___ Madison Elliot`s Debates, vol. III, page 87

[JOHN W K]

You are correct about our global governance crowd! Check out the Council on Foreign Relations Global Governance Page: International Institutions and Global Governance: World Order in the 21st Century

Also, check out the Council on Foreign Relations’ Membership Roster

Council on Foreign Relations’ Membership Roster

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William J. Clinton

JWK





To support Jeb Bush is to support our Global Governance crowd and their WTO, NAFTA, GATT, and CAFTA, all used to circumvent America First trade policies, while fattening the fortunes of international corporate giants who have no allegiance to America or any nation.

[Always A Marine]

Everyone needs to just calm the heck down about all this. You are being spun by Trumps minions.

No, we're not. We oppose secret agreements, and we are suspicious of this panicked rush to stack the deck for a sweeping trade treaty whose provisions are being hidden from us. We smell a rat when untrustworthy GOPe leaders like Boehner and McCarthy want Congress to neuter its Constitutional powers to prevent a bad agreement from becoming law -- forfeiting its rights to filibuster or amend whatever a president puts in front of them. We have wized up to the "spin" of Republicans who have proven to be just as bad as any Democrat. Fool me six times, shame on you...

[Always A Marine]

The Republicrats want that voting threshold at 51. Easier to betray the American people.

You are correct -- except that the number is only 50 since the Vice President can break any tie. TPA stacks the deck for later passage of whatever trade agreement a president wants passed. No filibuster, no amendments and only 50 votes required. This was a sellout to the corporate fascists who control the Republican Party, and it is time to recognize them for what they are.

[Georgia Girl 2]

My US rep voted for it. He is Boehner’s mini me.

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[Yardstick]

Well if you say so.

[InterceptPoint]

Rubio voted with Cruz. Is he a goner too?

[vette6387]

“There must be big forces at work here causing these conservatives to go right along with a treaty that will be detrimental to United State sovereignty. “

No it won’t....the unions won’t like it, but it does NOTHING that is detrimental.....nothing.

That was not my comment. I was responding to it.

[dennisw]

Free Traitors. These Republicans have sold out to lobbyists and are free traitors.

[dennisw]

Rubio voted with Cruz. Is he a goner too?

In with Trump. Out with these chumps. Rubio is awful on immigration too. Every trade treaty of the last 25 years has made it worse for average Americans and has increased our trade deficit. This TPA is not any different

[dennisw]

Trump will have the illegal aliens working on building this border fence/wall. Closely supervised so they cannot sabotage it. Israeli style border fence will work just fine for most parts of the Mexican border where the invaders are flowing through unmolested.

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[444Flyer]

The other Biblical principle that comes to mind is those signing onto this have been given over to a powerful delusion. They believe the lie.

[dragnet2]

We could do that easy. This is America. Should have been done decades ago.

Of course under the right leadership we’d have to make our fence bigger and badder than the Israelis fence. A little rivalry makes good competition.

[dragnet2]

Eventually we could make Mexico a good trading partner.

But that shouldn’t include being looted or taken for a sucker while winking and nodding at millions of your people who routinely disrespect our rules, laws and sovereignty. Thing like our social services meant for Americans who actually need help, are near total collapse from Mexico’s weight. As well as from other countries all over the planet.

Like Trump said, how stupid is that?

I’d work for Trump cheap. I’ll be his Department of Transportation Director. I’d make sure many of those folks in D.C. get a ride back to where they came from. All done cheaply and quickly.

[trebb]

I guess that settles it - if Cruz is the last man standing, then the only “principled” thing to do is to refuse to vote for him and let Obama II continue the destruction of Freedom of the People. And we call those on the Left stupid.