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The Senseless Death in a Charleston Church Could Have Been Prevented
SGBerman ^ | June 18, 2015 | Steve Berman

Posted on 06/18/2015 9:40:48 AM PDT by Sopater

Every time an American community suffers a tragedy involving a firearm, the anti-gun crowd unveils itself in full tribal dress.

Wednesday night, a 21-year-old sandy blonde-haired white man with blue jeans and Timberland boots walked into a historically black church in Charleston, S.C. and killed 9 people. That’s a horrible, murderous act, made worse by the fact that the man is still at large.

The New York Times reported S.C. Gov. Nikki Haley’s statement about the tragedy.

“While we do not yet know all of the details, we do know that we’ll never understand what motivates anyone to enter one of our places of worship and take the life of another,” the governor said. “Please join us in lifting up the victims and their families with our love and prayers.”

The Rev. Clementa Pinckney was among those killed. Pinckney was a S.C. state senator, a Democrat who served since 1998, was on the Corrections and Penology and Education committees, among others.

His voting record indicates that he was not a supporter of expanding gun rights for S.C. citizens.

In 2014, he voted against S.308, which Haley signed in law, allowing a Concealed Weapons Permit holder to carry firearms into restaurants that serve alcohol, while preserving the restaurant owner’s right to ban individuals carrying firearms in their establishment.

Current S.C. state law prohibits permitted individuals from carrying a weapon in a church (S.C. Code Ann § 21-31-215).

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: South Carolina
KEYWORDS: 2ndamendment; banglist; church; churchshooting; dylannroof; massacre; scchurchshooting; secondamendment; shooting; thatwasfast
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1 posted on 06/18/2015 9:40:48 AM PDT by Sopater
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To: Sopater

Gee. The gunman broke the law.

He carried a gun into a church.

(Must have been black - Else this writer would have emphasized “racial hate-crimes” rather than gun violence in the propaganda.


2 posted on 06/18/2015 9:43:12 AM PDT by Robert A Cook PE (I can only donate monthly, but socialists' ABBCNNBCBS continue to lie every day!)
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To: Sopater

Didn’t the shooter know it was illegal to bring a gun into a church?

Evidently we have a literacy problem in America, and a problem where the people obviously don’t know the laws.

There should be a law that requires that everybody know the laws.


3 posted on 06/18/2015 9:43:25 AM PDT by Sopater (Is it not lawful for me to do what I will with mine own? - Matthew 20:15a)
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...21-year-old sandy blonde-haired white man

The biased incorrect narrative continues even in the face of countered evidence.

It isn't facts, or circumstances. It is all about political motivation and supposition, even if it isn't true.

4 posted on 06/18/2015 9:44:21 AM PDT by Gaffer
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Current S.C. state law prohibits permitted individuals from carrying a weapon in a church (S.C. Code Ann § 21-31-215).

Unless the church allows it.

5 posted on 06/18/2015 9:44:34 AM PDT by gdani (No sacred cows)
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To: Sopater

“Current S.C. state law prohibits permitted individuals from carrying a weapon in a church (S.C. Code Ann § 21-31-215).”

You mean that the law didn’t stop him? He just must have been unaware that it was illegal to take a gun into a church.


6 posted on 06/18/2015 9:44:51 AM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (A free society canÂ’t let the parameters of its speech be set by murderous Islamists.)
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To: Sopater
Because when I go to church the first thing I grab on my way out the door is my pistol. </sarcasm>

Arguments like this are just as stupid and just as pointless as the guy who argued this is all Nikki Haley's fault because she didn't oppose flying the Confederate flag.

7 posted on 06/18/2015 9:46:00 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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So the reverend who was killed, Clementa Pinckney, was a state senator who voted against allowing good, law abiding citizens from carrying guns in churches for defense from evil killers. Care to re-vote on that one, Senator?
8 posted on 06/18/2015 9:46:53 AM PDT by Sopater (Is it not lawful for me to do what I will with mine own? - Matthew 20:15a)
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To: Robert A. Cook, PE

Nope. He’s white.


9 posted on 06/18/2015 9:46:54 AM PDT by Robert A Cook PE (I can only donate monthly, but socialists' ABBCNNBCBS continue to lie every day!)
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To: gdani
Unless the church allows it.

The point is that the reverend who was killed voted as a state senator against the bill that allows the church to decide.
10 posted on 06/18/2015 9:48:43 AM PDT by Sopater (Is it not lawful for me to do what I will with mine own? - Matthew 20:15a)
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They need to make that “no carrying a gun in church” law a little bit stronger. Maybe change the wording and use capital letters a lot.


11 posted on 06/18/2015 9:50:20 AM PDT by VerySadAmerican (I'm very sad for my country. Personally, I've never been happier.)
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To: DoodleDawg

Who said that?


12 posted on 06/18/2015 9:50:22 AM PDT by Sopater (Is it not lawful for me to do what I will with mine own? - Matthew 20:15a)
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They’re going to get “white man” in the article as many times as possible. And that is the kind of stuff SOME white people are getting sick and tired of seeing.


13 posted on 06/18/2015 9:51:51 AM PDT by VerySadAmerican (I'm very sad for my country. Personally, I've never been happier.)
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They need to make that “no carrying a gun in church” law a little bit stronger. Maybe change the wording and use capital letters a lot.

Yeah, and some bold-face font with some blinking lights would probably help too.
14 posted on 06/18/2015 9:55:04 AM PDT by Sopater (Is it not lawful for me to do what I will with mine own? - Matthew 20:15a)
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Yes. It’s no problem to identify “white” as the potential culprit although they don’t even go through the usual “alleged” whatever. Straight up “whitey did it - all you crackers owe us reparations.”


15 posted on 06/18/2015 9:55:14 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: Sopater
Who said that?

Some former Obama administration HUD undersecretary I think it was. Apparently Tweeted that earlier this morning.

16 posted on 06/18/2015 9:57:03 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: Sopater
Here's a link
17 posted on 06/18/2015 10:00:10 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: VerySadAmerican

“They need to make that “no carrying a gun in church” law a little bit stronger. Maybe change the wording and use capital letters a lot.”

And, pictures...lots of pictures.


18 posted on 06/18/2015 10:01:34 AM PDT by moovova (I've chosen to identify as a youngster even though I was born that way. Please respect my decision.)
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To: Sopater
In 2014, he voted against S.308, which Haley signed in law, allowing a Concealed Weapons Permit holder to carry firearms into restaurants that serve alcohol, while preserving the restaurant owner’s right to ban individuals carrying firearms in their establishment.

Current S.C. state law prohibits permitted individuals from carrying a weapon in a church (S.C. Code Ann § 21-31-215).

Is it too much to wonder if a South Carolinian can carry in a restaurant that serves alcohol but not in a church if that might be at the insistence of those same Black ministers? (If Roof needed to change mags frequently for a 1911, couldn't a congregation member with a high-capacity firearm have stopped his rampage?)

19 posted on 06/18/2015 10:01:46 AM PDT by Sooth2222 ("In a democracy people get the leaders they deserve." - Joseph de Maistre, 1753-1821)
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As I understand it, like Pope Sharpton I this guy was a “reverend” at 13.

While the shooting is horrible and indefensible, can we stop pretending that this was a “church”? The “reverend” was an elected official!


20 posted on 06/18/2015 10:03:23 AM PDT by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic warfare against white males (and therefore white families).)
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