Posted on 06/16/2015 8:54:43 AM PDT by HomerBohn
Over the past year, almost daily there are a fleet of Army helicopters that fly over our house in the same direction, usually just after lunch, but it seems they are clearly American military helicopters. However, two new videos that were posted last week indicate that there are a formation of helicopters operation over Washington State that could be other than military.
The following videos are provided by two eyewitnesses to these helicopters. First there is this account that was uploaded by MyKidsFuture on June 10, 2015. You can hear a man and woman both talking and they are clearly describing the helicopters as "Apache like" and "white," assuming they are United Nations helicopters.
(Watch videos at link.)
The second video was uploaded by Liberty's Champion on June 11, 2015 showing what appears to be the same formation of helicopters from a different angle.
"I have never seen so many attack helicopters at once in the skies around here before," wrote Liberty's Champion. "Special training or some unique circumstance perhaps?"
Both videos included Jade Helm in the titles, but only the first video indicates that the helicopters are white and possibly United Nations helicopter. Frankly, when viewing the video, it's hard to tell what color the helicopters are due to where the sun is in the video.
However, according to All News Pipeline, "…the word we have gotten from a retired US Navy SEAL source, they ARE likely United Nations choppers. With both China and Russia high ranking UN Security Council members, we echo the words of Libertys Champion in the 2nd video: This 'is not normal and seems very out of place to me.'"
There is a Seattle, Washington chapter of the United Nations Association of the United States of America. On June 10th, the same day these videos were taken, the chapter was holding a board meeting, according to its website.
Calls to the Seattle, Washington United Nations Association went unreturned as we sought clarification of whether these were indeed UN helicopters and what their purpose was.
The closer we are to the Jade Helm exercises being conducted the more likely things like this are going to be seen. While many claim that this is just "normal," I can't remember anything of the magnitude of Jade Helm in my lifetime. I realize there are people who want to point out the need for military training. However, doing so in cities, among the population, is a really bad idea. It not only conditions citizens to accept such things on their streets, but it also conditions the soldiers to do the same thing. In fact, it is questionable as to whether military should be training at all on American streets.
One commenter wrote something that I think is poignant when it comes to the ramping up of our military training like this. Curt Cope wrote:
Look, let me tell you younger folks something here. All these military drills going on in our cities, counties, and states are NOT normal. For you younger folks, you ONLY KNOW what YOU KNOW in the environment that YOU GROW UP IN. During my time in the military many moons ago, we WERE NOT doing these drills in the cities, counties, and states. This is completely out of the ordinary in these united States of America.
Now, you may turn on the booboisie tube and they may tell you that this is all normal. Well, it IS NOT. They are LYING to you. They know, that you only know, the environment you are growing up in.
Hitler said it best: "When an opponent declares, 'I will not come over to your side.' I calmly say, 'Your child belongs to us already… What are you? You will pass on. Your descendants, however, now stand in the new camp. In a short time they will know nothing else but this new community.'" - Adolf Hitler
You are being acclimatized. You know... Nothing to see here folks!
And you better get this through your heads. WE TRAIN LIKE WE FIGHT... WE FIGHT LIKE WE TRAIN. Let-that-sink-in. They are training in the environment that they will be fighting in. Let me put it this way, if you are going to fight in the jungle, you don't train in the desert.
I don't know if this is a part of Jade Helm in a similar manner that explosions rocked the Midwest two weeks ago or similar training exercises will continue to be conducted, but answers do need to be provided.
So, of course, by “we fight like we train” you mean to imply that we train on U.S. soil in order to fight Americans on U.S. soil, right?
You mean like Berlin and a host of other cities we’ve fought in?
Well, the Russians captured Berlin, but yeah, I have a feeling Tim Brown isn’t old enough to have been talking about WWII.
Yeah WWII is the last war where we’ve fought in a city.
Right
“Yeah WWII is the last war where we’ve fought in a city.”
Well, let’s see, do you think we were mostly fighting in urban terrain in Korea and Vietnam? What other wars could he be talking about that were “back in my day”? Gulf War I? That was in the desert.
It is dog training conditioning. To get people used to a military presence on the streets.
As a little kid in the 60s, you would have been shocked and alarmed to see cops walking around the streets with machine guns...like they do in 3rd world countries. Now? See the concern? Conditioned.
Chinese markings on helicopters?
I did in the early 50’s when I was in Korea.
Everette Washington does not resemble likely battlefields in the Middle East.
Yep, conditioning the populace and the military
Who made them? I can find no reference to Chinese choppers? Elucidate, please, I’m interested. Sikorsky? Bell? Who made them?
At this point the FEMA bus could pull up out front and I would not be shocked.
The origin of the Chinese helicopter industry can be traced back to the late 1950s, when the Soviet Union agreed to help the Chinese Communist Party to build helicopters for both military and civil purposes. The first domestic helicopter built by the Chinese was the Z-5 (Zhishengji-5), which was based on the Soviet Mil Mi-4 Hound with some modifications.
The development of the Z-5 began in 1958 by Harbin Aircraft Factory (now Harbin Aircraft Manufacturing Corporation, HAMC ), which later became one of the two primary helicopter manufacturers in China. The design documents of the Mi-4 was handed to the Chinese in February 1958, and the first Chinese-built Z-5 make its first flight in December of the same year. Initial batch production began in 1959, but the production certificate was not issued until 1963 due to some serious quality problems.....Were you still there in 1963?
So? Why does it have to resemble the Middle East? Are we supposed to assume all the wars we may have to fight will be in the Middle East from now on?
Kinda the point of this is that they must be expecting a war here in the US.
Glad to see you’re catching up.
Mikoyan-Gurevich MiG-15’s were the jet fighters flown by Chinese, North Korean AND Russian pilots.
I knew that my comment on the helicopters in Korea with ‘Chinese’ markings in the war wasn’t true. Mikoyan later did develop copters for the Chinese and they weren’t available until around 1960.
The only copters the Chinese and North Koreans got their hands on were ours after crashing.
“Kinda the point of this is that they must be expecting a war here in the US.”
Well, yeah, I’ve gathered that’s what the paranoid patrol has concluded. Of course, we’ve been hearing that line from them for at least 20 years now, so pardon me if it’s not a compelling argument, since they have always been wrong in the past with their similar claims.
Then why train here?
The answer lies in the timing
The helicopters are returning to base AFTER LUNCH
(Sound of hyperventilating) - YES! YESYESYES!!
Wait, what were we talking about? Oh, yeah, the Mariners suck again this year. Sort of saps yer will to live.
Try Googling US Marines and Hue City.
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