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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Cruz is still the man. I hope Freepers take the time to read up on his position here.


2 posted on 06/13/2015 4:11:29 PM PDT by Caipirabob (Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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To: Caipirabob
Literally every legitimate shot candidate in the race has supported and even lobbied foreign nations for this. The fact that they all slink away and watch from cover doesn't impress me nearly as much as the man who stands in the open fighting it out.

I have plenty of mixed feelings about these trade deals but I also believe Ted Cruz would negotiate far more equitable trade deals with foreign nations than anyone else in the race.



I'm getting a really bizarre feeling that Freepers feel than nothing will change no matter who is elected so lets destroy Cruz. They seem more interested in someone telling them what they want to hear so they can feel good for a while and we'll worry about broken promises later. Its not sensible or rational but people in groups seldom are.

Personally I trust Cruz to put real effort into keeping his promises. The fact that the establishment absolutely hates him makes me feel like they believe he'll carry out his threats and promises too.
23 posted on 06/13/2015 4:30:31 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Sad political fact. Most people prefer a popular lie over an unpopular fact.)
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To: Caipirabob
Yeah, I've read up on his position here. He's still being duplicitous on the matter, is now throwing good money after bad by not telling the whole story. To wit:

or (2) through legislation passed by a majority of both Houses of Congress.

Without TPA, TPP is STILL subject to cloture and the filibuster. TPA takes away the filibuster and therefore the need for a cloture vote. Cruz understands cloture very well, here's his statement on the cloture vote for funding Obamacare:

“The vote that matters is the vote tomorrow on cloture ” Cruz said. “Any senator who votes yes on cloture tomorrow is voting to give Harry Reid the power to fully fund Obamacare. I will vote no on cloture tomorrow. That vote is the fight.”

TPA *IS* the cloture vote on TPP, removing the ability to filibuster and reducing it to a simple majority vote in the Senate. Cruz completely ignores that point. Given how he's used cloture and the filibuster to great effect in the past, there's absolutely grounds to believe that omission is deliberate.

Senator Cruz would not and will not give President Obama one more inch of unrestricted power

Its really easy to see what Cruz is doing with this one. If voting for cloture on Obamacare funding was giving Harry Reid additional power, then voting for TPA is giving Obama, no, wait, ... Mitch McConnell ... additional power. So, technically, Cruz is correct. It's not giving Obama additional power, let alone "unrestricted" power.

But that statement is a also a HUGE distraction from the issue, something straight out of the Bill "meaning of is, is" playbook.

Seriously, Cruz needs to stop digging himself into a hole here. He's hemorrhaging credibility with a LOT of people whose support he's going to need in the coming months.
31 posted on 06/13/2015 4:37:16 PM PDT by tanknetter
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To: Caipirabob

Cruz is correct on the technicalities, but horribly wrong on substance (I’ll admit that setting up the House Democrats to kill the bill was good domestic politics, and setting the Obama up to provide something to run against later are smart politics for Cruz). For six years, Obama has screwed up everything he touched, like a King Midas of excrement. If he desired with all his heart to negotiate an agreement that competently serves US interests, Obama is utterly incapable of delivering it. The chances that he would somehow produce an agreement worthy of approval are nil. If you believe otherwise, please explain. (I am not anti-Cruz, just anti-Obama).

Since Obama is not capable of producing an approvable bill, why on earth give him what amounts to a vote of confidence? Why risk that we’ll have another set of tricks and bribes a la ObamaCare?


55 posted on 06/13/2015 4:53:50 PM PDT by Chewbarkah
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To: Caipirabob
I hope Freepers take the time to read up on his position here.

Those who are busy posting vitriol in every single thread completely ignore his position detailed here. A large number of them have never supported Cruz.

139 posted on 06/13/2015 7:56:40 PM PDT by Moorings
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To: Caipirabob

Thanks for posting this release from the Ted Cruz Crew —

I greatly admire Senator Sessions but I trust Ted Cruz.

Why? Because always tells the truth and does what he says he will do.

Ted did not have to go on two radio interviews followed by his press release. All of the other candidates in one form or fashion has come out in favor of TPA (TPP is not even in the discussion).

Here is Senator Rand Paul - October 2014.

Rand Paul to Obama: Finish TPP Trade Deal: “Instead of just talking about a so-called ‘pivot to Asia,’ the Obama administration should prioritize negotiating the” TPP.

By Zachary Keck
October 28, 2014

http://thediplomat.com/2014/10/rand-paul-to-obama-finish-tpp-trade-deal/

And I am certain I can find similar statements from Governor Perry.

Sure, there are the weather vane candidates who stick their wet finger in the air and change according to the prevailing wind.

Why else do I trust Cruz versus Senator Sessions?

Because Ted Cruz knows his way around the US Constitution like few others. Ted has successfully argued 6 landmark cases before the Supreme Court:

U.S. sovereignty against the UN and the World Court in Medellin v. Texas;
• The Second Amendment right to keep and bear arms;
• The constitutionality of the Texas Ten Commandments monument;
• The constitutionality of the words “under God” in the Pledge of Allegiance;
• The constitutionality of the Texas Sexually Violent Predator Civil Commitment law; and
• The Texas congressional redistricting plan.

In the “UN and the World Court in Medellin v. Texas” case, Ted defended won against the George W. Bush administration on US and state sovereignty. Medellin involved a Mexican who entered the US, raped and murdered two young girls.

The Bush administration wanted the case tried through the World Court. Cruz successfully protected our Country against the right to adjudicate the case outside the US.

So, when it comes to protecting our Nation’s sovereigny. When it comes to knowing the US Constitution backwards and forwards, I defer not to Senator Sessions but to Senate Ted Cruz — hopeful our next POTUS


156 posted on 06/13/2015 10:17:47 PM PDT by MN_Mike (Cruz 2016)
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To: Caipirabob
Cruz is still the man

AMEN to that!

220 posted on 06/14/2015 8:22:40 AM PDT by VideoDoctor
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