Posted on 06/11/2015 11:17:49 AM PDT by Kaslin
This certainly adds some perspective:
http://www.youngcons.com/officer-in-mckinney-handled-two-suicide-cases-an-hour-before-the-incident/
People need to pay very close attention to this scenario. It is THE SINGLE MOST LIKELY way in which a law abiding American is likely to face violence within the relative safety of their home and neighborhood. Far more likely than any “terrorism”.
The Knockout Game players are actively being encouraged to take these kinds of activities into the Burbs. This is not happening by mistake. It is not random. The stage is simply being set to make law abiding Americans use deadly force to defend themselves. It is not coincidence.
The children have already been taught that white people are all evil rich racist. Now they are being told that evil rich white racists do not have the right to say anything to you under any circumstances. They are being encouraged to be confrontational at every incident. To GET IN THEIR FACE. To trespass, to squat, to redistribute. They are being taught that everything of yours is theirs and if you refuse to share, to attack. If you defend, you will be jailed, raped, financially ruined, and your family terrorized.
Get Shooters Insurance.
Unless faced with an immediate threat, the right thing to do if overwhelmed (bad days worth of calls or not) is to withdraw from the situation, gain better situational awareness and wait for backup.
It looks like the cop was over the line right up until the point where the two guy’s made threatening moves from his gun side. So drawing his weapon was legit. But being in a situation where he had to do that was his own fault.
I’ve heard this pool referred to, in different reports, as both a private pool and a public pool. Does anybody know which it is?
Learn situational awareness and have a plan to, if not stay out of danger, then retreat to safety.
Castle doctrine still applies in a lot of places. Stay close to your house, retreat inside if necessary, hope they don’t come in but be prepared to use lethal force if they do.
You don’t think that he was out of control, but then explain why he was, he supposedly was too upset about the day he was having before he arrived on the scene that revealed him unsuited for street police work.
By the way, Mark Furhman disagrees with you about the not cop being a threat to the public’s safety, Furhman says that he even removed himself from the trained position of being able to help his fellow officers.
Watch Furhman at the link in post 15.
This cop and the union, didn’t instantly decide not to fight, because they all thought that he was acting normal and professionally as was caught running around and escalating everything.
It’s a private community pool, intended only for the people who live there. The community members are given two guest passes. The teens were allegedly passing passes to each other through a fence.
I don’t have a minute now to find a source, but that’s what I read.
This was bound to happen with the spread of smartphone camcorders. Good part is that it discourages cops from roughing up those folks who don’t deserve it. Bad part is that it may discourage some cops from using necessary force on those perps who deserve it. But when you think of the thousands of police-perp interactions that go on every day without incident or notoriety, it may not cramp police style as much as some fear.
It seems that there is a national script being played out here. What is the possibility that all the “problems” with local police departments with “racism, brutality, racial profiling” and so on is a set up for the DOJ to take over all police units in the USA, automatically making them Federal and coming under Federal regulation and command and control....
It goes down hill from there, just sayin.
FWIW, this is the second year of not doing my retirement gig in urban substituting. Even back in academic year 2012-2013, these instigated "damned if you do, damned if you don't" situaitons were becoming common.
Are you really sure about that?
This could just simply be one incident and that is it.
I don’t give a damn what Mark Fuhrman thinks. It’s been decades since he was a patrolman on the streets. He has no idea what they deal with and he could read this situation wrong just like anyone else.
That cop had his lawyer and his union, yet when he saw himself running around hysterically, like Barney Fife, he instantly resigned.
The guy was out of control.
Just like the Chief of Police, Mark Furhman can’t make any sense of this guy’s chicken with his head cut off running around, either.
Well 2016 cannot come soooooooon enough!
I throw them out of my pool all the time. If anyone grabs my wife’s hair there will be meat on the ground.
This could very well be why we may end seeing fewer and fewer private pools.
That makes sense. Thanks.
It is ludicrous that some commentators are using the footage of the officer briefly pulling out his weapon, as an illustration that he was “out of control.
I get the main point of the article but C’mon, it isn’t ludicrous to think that the cop may have acted provocatively.
That cop would have started a riot with that act if he’d pulled it in Suffolk County NY at any one of the scores of 50/400 person parties rousted by the SCPD between 1970 and 1977 that I was a part of or knew of. In fact the slightly confident gait (wasn’t really a swagger)of one cop walking along saying “party’s over folks, go get together somewhere else” seemed to push on marginal IQ/issues with authority badass to violence. The badass suddenly double palmed the cop in the chest apparently trying to knock him on his ass. The cop stayed up. Looked at the badass...and smiled. He stepped forward the distance the badass had set him back and in maybe 90 seconds using only words expressed at conversational volume humiliated the badass and sent him scuttling the hell out of there. Imagine that happening today? Nope, me neither.
Ditto. The guy in the brown shorts/blue t-shirt who was lurking near the cop appeared to be reaching into his pocket.
It was a private pool in the sense that it was owned by the neighborhood Home Owners Association. The pool rules are available online and state:
http://www.craigranchliving.com/ResourceCenter/10389/New-Homeowner-Information
- Miscellaneous Documents
- Amenity Usage Policy
“If you wish to have a POOL PARTY, it must be limited to 20 people. The fees will be the $175.00 refundable Security Damage Deposit and $50.00 Rental Use Fee.”
The neighborhood has “Resident ID Cards” and pool use is limited to two guests per resident ID card.
Tatyana Rhodes, who organized the party, and her mother, LaShana Burks, say that the guest limitation is only enforced against black people. The other residents say that those at the party were passing ID cards through the fence to get more people inside the pool area.
There are a lot of claims, but the pool is definitely not public, although it is open to all neighborhood residents whose HOA dues are current, and to two guests per resident or up to 20 guests with a paid pool party registration.
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