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Slender Man attorneys call charging law unconstitutional (WI)
Milwlaukee Journal Sentinel ^ | 5-26-15 | Bruce Vielmetti

Posted on 05/26/2015 11:43:40 AM PDT by afraidfortherepublic

Leading into a key hearing in her case Tuesday, one of two Waukesha girls charged in the Slender Man stabbing case has asked a judge to declare the law that required her to be charged as an adult unconstitutional and dismiss the case.

Attorneys for 13-year-old Anissa Weier filed a motion last week challenging the law as it applies to her, saying it violates the Eighth Amendment's ban on cruel and unusual punishment, and that keeping her from the juvenile court system violates her rights to equal protection and due process.

Weier and Morgan Geyser, 12, are charged as adults with the attempted first-degree intentional homicide of their sixth-grade friend Payton Leutner on May 31 last year, after a sleepover at Geyser's house to mark Geyser's 12th birthday. The girls told police they were trying to impress or appease Slender Man, a fictional Internet character they believed could kill them or their families.

Leutner suffered multiple stab wounds but recovered and was able to return to school in the fall.

Wisconsin law requires children as young as 10 to be charged as adults for certain serious crimes, at least to start the case. Young defendants can seek to get those serious cases moved to juvenile court in what's called a reverse waiver.

Weier's reverse waiver hearing is scheduled to begin Tuesday before Waukesha County Circuit Judge Michael Bohren. Geyser's is set for June.

Under the law, a juvenile has the burden of proving three things: that she can't get adequate treatment in the adult system, that moving the case to juvenile court would not "depreciate the seriousness of the offense" and that staying in adult court is not necessary to deter other children from similar offenses.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Wisconsin
KEYWORDS: 8thamendment; anissaweier; eighthamendment; homosexualagenda; juveniles; libertarians; medicalmarijuana; michaelbohren; morgangeyse; paytonleutner; plot; slenderman; stabbing; waukesha; wisconsin

Two 12-year-old girls were charged with attempted first-degree intentional homicide for what police say was the attempted murder of their classmate planned over the course of months. Morgan Geyser and Anissa Weier reportedly stabbed their victim 19 times with a five-inch blade and face up to 65 years in prison.

1 posted on 05/26/2015 11:43:40 AM PDT by afraidfortherepublic
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To: afraidfortherepublic; onyx; Hunton Peck; Diana in Wisconsin; P from Sheb; Shady; DonkeyBonker; ...

Further developments in the “Slender Man” case.

FReep Mail me if you want on, or off, this Wisconsin interest ping list.


2 posted on 05/26/2015 11:45:18 AM PDT by afraidfortherepublic
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To: afraidfortherepublic

Try them as adults.


3 posted on 05/26/2015 11:47:20 AM PDT by rickyrikardo
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To: afraidfortherepublic
Translation: I know the hearing is not going to go well, so I am going to challenge the law itself.
4 posted on 05/26/2015 11:51:02 AM PDT by wideawake
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To: afraidfortherepublic

Sociopaths?


5 posted on 05/26/2015 11:51:49 AM PDT by SZonian (Throwing our allegiances to political parties in the long run gave away our liberty.)
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To: afraidfortherepublic

The one on the left looks like Marie Harf at age 12. Harf harf harf harf harf!


6 posted on 05/26/2015 11:53:01 AM PDT by duckworth (Perhaps instant karma's going to get you. Perhaps not.)
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To: duckworth

Kinda looks like Drew Barrymore. Circa “Firestarter”.


7 posted on 05/26/2015 11:55:44 AM PDT by ButThreeLeftsDo (Make A Donation To Free Republic Today)
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To: afraidfortherepublic


8 posted on 05/26/2015 11:58:57 AM PDT by JoeProBono (SOME IMAGES MAY BE DISTURBING VIEWER DISCRETION IS ADVISED;-{)
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To: afraidfortherepublic
afraidfortherepublic:" Two 12-year-old girls were charged with attempted first-degree intentional homicide
for what police say was the attempted murder of their classmate planned over the course of months.
Morgan Geyser and Anissa Weier reportedly stabbed their victim 19 times with a five-inch blade and face up to 65 years in prison."

Sorta like the druggie sales that arm 15 yr olds with firearms to supervise drug transactions
An adult would get maximum incarceration.
Youths go to family, or juvenile court and will be released as soon as they reachage of adulthood ( generally less than 3 years).

9 posted on 05/26/2015 12:00:03 PM PDT by Tilted Irish Kilt
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To: rickyrikardo

They are being tried as adults. The attorney of one of them is challenging the constitutionality of the law that allows them to be charged as adults.


10 posted on 05/26/2015 12:00:06 PM PDT by afraidfortherepublic
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To: afraidfortherepublic

I’m not going to get too specific with this response, but there are concepts regarding laws to protect minors that bother me.

First, having a record expunged at some point leaves people uninformed and unprotected. You could be coming into contact with someone who committed some very wicked crimes and have no way of knowing it.

Second, while I do agree minors may not quite fully grasp the ramifications of their crimes, and what they will mean to them, I do believe minors know right from wrong. They know killing someone is permanent and that it is wrong.

I don’t agree to reduced sentencing for kids when the crime is of a violent nature, killings or not.

These kids that are supposedly too young to know, in many cases know exactly what the penalties are up front, and what their ultimate escape clause is, as it relates to records expunging.

These two kids should get a very stiff penalty.

I will add, IMO, an attempted murder should get the same penalty as if the attempt had been successful.

The mindset was to kill someone. Penalize for that mindset, and quit playing games “to be fair”. Nothing fair about murder or the attempt to commit it.


11 posted on 05/26/2015 12:06:59 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Conservatism: Now home to liars too. And we'll support them. Yea... GOPe)
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To: afraidfortherepublic
Never underestimate a teenaged female's capacity for violence.

MURDER OF SHANDA SHARER


Murder

On the night of January 10, 1992, 16-year-old Melinda Loveless concocted a plan to kidnap and kill her 12-year-old rival Shanda Sharer. Melinda Loveless had been in a lesbian relationship with 15-year-old Amanda Heavrin for two years until Shanda came into the picture and Amanda began directing her attention to her and away from Melinda. Melinda had threatened Shanda on multiple occasions and discussed killing her with her friends every single day. 

Melinda enlisted three other teenage girls to join the kidnapping and killing of Shanda Sharer: Laurie Tackett (17), Hope Rippey (15), and Toni Lawrence (15), who resided in Madison, Indiana. Laurie Tackett, who Melinda specifically recruited knowing she had a need to be violent, was very aware of what Melinda had in store for that night. She informed Hope and Toni that they were going to kill a little girl, but neither girl took her seriously. Laurie Tackett picked Hope and Toni up and made the long drive to New Albany, Indiana, where Melinda resided. They lounged around in her bedroom, trying on Melinda’s clothes until Melinda drew a butcher knife from her purse. ”This is the knife I’m going to use to scare Shanda,” she said.

Melinda began discussing her hatred for Shanda and how much she wanted her dead for stealing her girlfriend, though admitted that she was sexy, as much as she hated her. Toni and Hope sat in silence, shocked. They did not know Shanda, and neither did Laurie. Knowing that Shanda was spending the weekend at her father’s house in nearby Jeffersonville, Indiana, Melinda called her house multiple times but to no avail. The girls then piled into Laurie’s car and stopped a few blocks away from Shanda’s fathers house. Melinda and Laurie ordered Toni and Hope to go to the door and tell Shanda that they were friends of Amanda’s and Amanda was waiting for her at a location called the Witch’s Castle, a place familiar to Laurie. As Toni and Hope left, Melinda hid herself on the floorboard, clutching the knife, and Laurie covered her with a blanket. Toni and Hope knocked on the door and introduced themselves as Amanda’s friends to Shanda, attempting to lure her out of the house by telling her that Amanda was waiting for her at the Witch’s Castle and urgently needed to talk to her. Shanda, who was on her way to a party, told them to come later that night when her father was asleep.

Melinda was furious when Hope and Toni returned to the car without Shanda, but they assured her that they could stop by later and pick her up. Afterward, the girls attended a punk rock concert and spent a couple hours there. Melinda called Amanda and, for the last time, told her that she was going to kill Shanda. The girls drove back to Shanda’s house and this time successfully lured her into the car, where Melinda lay hidden in the back. As Hope drove away, she began asking questions about her relationship with Amanda to trigger Melinda off and it worked; Melinda leaped out of her hiding place and pressed the knife against Shanda’s throat. ”Surprise!” Melinda shouted, ”I bet you didn’t expect me here, you bitch.” Shanda began sobbing and pleaded for her to let her go, promising to leave Amanda alone.

When they arrived at the Witch’s Castle, a ruined stone house located on an isolated hill overlooking the Ohio River, Melinda and Laurie bound Shanda’s hands and feet with rope and the girls began taunting her and stealing her jewelry. Laurie took a cherished sweater of hers, lit it on fire, and told Shanda, ”You’re next.” Fearing that bypassing cars would spot the fire and see what’s going on, Laurie and the girls went back in the car and drove all the way to Madison, Indiana, stopping in a densely forested area where Melinda forced Shanda to strip herself naked and began beating her with her fists, repeatedly cramming her knee into her mouth, causing her to bleed. Melinda attempted to slit her throat, but the knife was too dull. At some point during the beating, Hope got out of the car to assist them in holding Shanda down. Laurie and Melinda took turns stabbing Shanda in the chest and eventually strangled her with a rope, sending her into a state of unconsciousness. 

The girls tossed Shanda into the trunk and drove to Laurie’s house to wash themselves off. Laurie fixed the girls some soft drinks. When they heard Shanda screaming and banging around in the trunk, Laurie grabbed a paring knife, assured the girls she’ll handle it, and went outside where she opened the trunk and stabbed Shanda in the head. Laurie returned to clean herself up and told the girls their futures with ”rune stones” just to calm them down.

At about 2:30 AM, Hope and Toni decided to hang back as Melinda and Laurie went ”country cruising”, driving to the nearby town of Canaan. Every time they heard screaming and thumping sounds from the trunk, Laurie would stop the car and beat Shanda into silence with a tire iron. Shanda would call out Melinda’s name in a gurgled voice and the last word she could muster was ”mommy” until Laurie wacked her with the tire iron again. The girls debated where to dump off Shanda, considering the limited options they had such as tossing her in a lake and running her over with the car. Sometime during the ride, it was decided that they were going to burn her.

Melinda and Laurie returned to the house at dawn and lead Hope and Toni to the car to show them the mangled condition that Shanda was in now. Toni, refusing to take a look, went inside the car while Laurie opened up the trunk. Hope recalled ”not one inch of her wasn’t covered in blood”. Next, Hope took a Windex bottle and sprayed it all over Shanda’s wounds and taunted, ”You’re not looking so hot now, huh?”

The girls headed to a gas station where they purchased a 2-liter bottle of Pepsi, dumped it out, and refilled it with gasoline. Hope informed them of a secluded location called ”Lemon Road” where they could burn Shanda. Once they reached the gravel road, Toni, shaken up, stayed in the car while Hope and Laurie opened up the trunk, wrapped Shanda’s body up in a blanket, and lay her out on the side of the road. Laurie ordered Melinda to pour the gasoline over Shanda’s body, but she shied away, so she pushed it into Hope’s hands. Hope doused Shanda’s body with the gasoline and Laurie lit a match and set Shanda’s body ablaze. 

All three girls piled into the car where Toni awaited and sped off, only it wasn’t too long until Melinda looked back and demanded that they go back because Shanda wasn’t burning enough. Laurie spun the car around and pulled up beside Shanda’s burning body. Melinda got out of the car and stood over Shanda, staring at her for a few moments before pouring the rest of the gasoline on her and climbing back into the car. Melinda laughed about how Shanda’s tongue was darting in and out of her mouth and praised her death, relieved to have her rival out of her and Amanda’s lives. 

Aftermath 

After burning Shanda alive, the girls stopped at a local McDonald’s for breakfast where they joked that Shanda looked like the sausages. Toni, horrified, phoned her friend and confessed that the other girls had murdered someone. After breakfast, Melinda and Laurie dropped Hope and Toni home before heading back to Melinda’s place in New Albany. 

A couple hours after Shanda’s death, two brothers from Canaan, Indiana, were on there way to go hunting when they discovered a peculiar body burnt alive on the side of the gravel road. They initially suspected someone had burned a mannequin as a prank, but the closer they drew, the higher their fears rose. The figure was nude except for a pair of ripped blue panties. It lay on its back, its head pointed toward the road, and was charred black from waist to head. Its pale white legs were spread open and bent at the knees, and both arms were stiffly raised toward the sky with clenched fists. The two hunters were unsettled by whether it was a dead body but proceeded to summon police.  

Melinda phoned a friend and confessed to murdering Shanda and afterward had Amanda Heavrin paged at Riverfalls Mall, arranging to pick her up. Upon meeting with Amanda, a tearful Melinda immediately told her everything that happened, explaining that she only intended to beat Shanda up but then Laurie went crazy and killed her. Amanda comforted the hysterical Melinda, unsure of whether this was merely a prank or not. Unlike Melinda, Laurie laughed as she walked Amanda through all the events that took place that night. 

Melinda eventually dropped Amanda off at her house and made her promise not to tell anyone. Melinda then headed back to Laurie’s car. Meanwhile, Toni and Hope confessed to their parents and Toni’s parents immediately took her to the police station where Toni gave the names of the girls involved. The police enforcement pieced together the murder in a matter of hours. Melinda and Laurie were arrested later that night and taken into custody. 

Criminal Charges

All four girls were tried as adults. To avoid the death penalty, all four girls accepted plea bargains. Tackett and Loveless were sentenced to sixty years in the Indiana Women’s Prison in Indianapolis. With maximum time reduced for good behavior, they could be released in 2020. Lawrence was sentenced to twenty years in prison, and with time reduced for good behavior, she was released in 2000. Hope Rippey was sentenced to 60 years, with ten suspended for mitigating circumstances, and ten years of medium supervision probation. With time reduced for good behavior, Rippey was released in 2006.

Today

Melinda Loveless, 39, and Laurie Tackett, 40, remain behind bars. Melinda Loveless has done one TV interview where it is revealed that she is a part of the ICAN program where she trains dogs for abused and disabled children. Toni Lawrence, 38, now has two children, and Hope Rippey, also 38, is married to a woman and has a baby. Toni has turned down every interview offer, although Hope Rippey did appear on a Dr. Phil episode where she is confronted by Shanda’s mother and sister. In that Dr. Phil episode is also an exclusive interview with Amanda Heavrin, Shanda and Melinda’s ex lover. 

source: everythingtruecrime

”Surprise! I bet you didn’t expect me here, you bitch.”

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Top: Melinda Loveless; Laurie Tackett

Bottom: Hope Rippey; Toni Lawrence 

 

 

 

 

12 posted on 05/26/2015 12:33:05 PM PDT by Bratch
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To: Bratch

You get in the wrong group, and you can be saddled with the evil that exists in the other members.

Several of these girls got caught up in this disgusting mess, and were probably in fear of their own lives if they objected to what was taking place.

What a mess.

Parents need to keep tabs on their kids. I’d rather be thought of as a kill-joy for the rest of my life, than have my son or daughter incarcerated for being a ruthless killing maniac.

Thanks for the post.

You know, most of us think this could never involve their own kids. I say that for the grace of God, there goes our kid.

It’s good to know this element is out there.


13 posted on 05/26/2015 2:26:54 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Conservatism: Now home to liars too. And we'll support them. Yea... GOPe)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; cardinal4; ColdOne; ...
They're being tried as adults because it is Murder One.

14 posted on 05/26/2015 3:03:14 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (What do we want? REGIME CHANGE! When do we want it? NOW!)
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Whoops, I mean attempted murder one -- planned for months, and the original defense was similar to Son of Sam, instead of a dog giving the orders, a comic book character. Clearly both defenses are nonsensical.

15 posted on 05/26/2015 3:05:03 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (What do we want? REGIME CHANGE! When do we want it? NOW!)
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To: afraidfortherepublic

Beau and I were watching the local news this morning and there was a re-cap of this case. I said to him, “This SLAM-DUNK is STILL going on? These little MURDERESSES must be REALLY ‘lawyered up’ for this to drag on so long!”

And...I was RIGHT!


16 posted on 05/26/2015 8:06:49 PM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust Post-Apocalyptic skill set...)
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To: Bratch

What a horrible story!


17 posted on 05/26/2015 8:43:23 PM PDT by afraidfortherepublic
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To: SZonian

Aspiring rappers.

18 posted on 05/27/2015 7:23:35 PM PDT by BlueDragon
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