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FDNY’s sliding standards may burn New York
nypost.com ^ | may 16, 2015

Posted on 05/17/2015 2:58:17 PM PDT by lowbridge

Make sure your smoke alarms work: The FDNY may be about to get a lot less reliable.

As The Post’s Michael Gartland reportedThursday, the department is tweaking its fitness exam for recruits in ways that will make it easier to pass.

This raises fears that new firefighters might be less fit — and less qualified for the grueling task of fighting a New York City-size blaze.

Trainees, for example, won’t be asked to complete as many exercises meant to simulate pulling down a ceiling. And a reordering of the tasks on the test — supposedly to better represent actual firefighting conditions — will “reduce the cumulative fatigue” for recruits.

The changes were based on recommendations by a consultant, PSI Services, which reviewed the testing for the city to make sure it was “fair and safe.”

Fair? That should set off alarms right there.

The FDNY has taken heat for years from critics who slammed the tests as unfair. They claim there are “too few” blacks, Hispanics and women in the department — citing the fact, for example, that only 46 of the city’s 10,500 firefighters are women.

Some years back, a left-wing federal judge, Nicholas Garaufis, deemed the testing discriminated against blacks and slapped the department with restrictions. (An appeals court later ruled that it was Garaufis himself who’d shown bias.)

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: New York
KEYWORDS: blackkk; fdny; newyork; newyorkcity; nypd
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1 posted on 05/17/2015 2:58:17 PM PDT by lowbridge
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To: lowbridge

Pulling down ceilings with a pike pole is tough work.


2 posted on 05/17/2015 3:04:04 PM PDT by Retired Chemist
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this will become a circle; someone is going to die because some physically unqualified woman couldn’t carry an unconscious citizen out of a burning building, and that someone’s family is going to lawyer up and sue the sh*t out of the city. the city will happily pay the family off.

so, essentially, that idiot mayor is trading public safety and hundreds of millions of dollars for chick firefighters


3 posted on 05/17/2015 3:07:05 PM PDT by JohnBrowdie (http://forum.stink-eye.net)
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To: lowbridge

How many years of experience were lost on 9/11? It had to have been thousands...


4 posted on 05/17/2015 3:07:18 PM PDT by Tijeras_Slim
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To: lowbridge

FDNY used to be the best looking men in the city. Just to pass their firehouses when they sat out occasionally was a real treat. All those handsome, fit Irish boys. Now it’ll go to the dogs, I guess.


5 posted on 05/17/2015 3:07:49 PM PDT by miss marmelstein (Richard the Third: "I should like to drive away not only the Turks (moslims) but all my foes.")
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To: lowbridge

If a woman can carry a 250lb man down 3 flights of stairs while having 80 pounds of gear on their back, then I have no problem with them being a firefighter.


6 posted on 05/17/2015 3:08:26 PM PDT by LukeL
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“If a woman can carry a 250lb man down 3 flights of stairs while having 80 pounds of gear on their back, then I have no problem with them being a firefighter.”

A long time ago in a galaxy far far away I was a buff tuff 5’10” 180 lbs volunteer. After several call outs it was all I could do to get to my car and go home. Affirmative action cannot alter the laws of physics.


7 posted on 05/17/2015 3:29:59 PM PDT by CrazyIvan (I lost my phased plasma rifle in a tragic hovercraft accident.)
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To: lowbridge
The Left destroys EVERYTHING it touches.

Regressives:The Party of FAILURE.

8 posted on 05/17/2015 3:33:26 PM PDT by 9thLife ("Life is a military endeavor..." -- Francis)
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To: lowbridge

They’ll have to start special “elite” fire crews to protect places like Gracie Mansion.


9 posted on 05/17/2015 3:35:13 PM PDT by Steely Tom (Vote GOP for A Slower Handbasket)
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To: lowbridge

Make way for girlz!


10 posted on 05/17/2015 3:47:59 PM PDT by Jack Hammer
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Another one who got his job but not because he was qualified.

Firefighters Fear Colleague Who Routinely Flees Fires
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3290780/posts


11 posted on 05/17/2015 3:53:56 PM PDT by minnesota_bound
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Related thread

Firefighters Fear Colleague Who Routinely Flees Fires

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3290780/posts


12 posted on 05/17/2015 4:00:55 PM PDT by lowbridge
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"How many years of experience were lost on 9/11? It had to have been thousands..."

For some reason I never thought of it that way. How sickening.

13 posted on 05/17/2015 4:19:38 PM PDT by CatherineofAragon ("This is a Laztatorship. You don't like it, get a day's rations and get out of this office.")
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NYC can’t put off the consequences of stupidity forever.


14 posted on 05/17/2015 4:20:12 PM PDT by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, a Matter of Fact, Not A Matter of Opinion)
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To: CatherineofAragon
343 Fire fighters, including our own BCM (Batallion Commander Moran) in the North Tower.


15 posted on 05/17/2015 4:24:50 PM PDT by Tijeras_Slim
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I think I remember seeing his picture at one point.

God rest his soul.


16 posted on 05/17/2015 4:32:48 PM PDT by CatherineofAragon ("This is a Laztatorship. You don't like it, get a day's rations and get out of this office.")
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I witnessed for my self the city council led by man beast vivarito explaining how monumental thier decision was to intagrate females and minorities into the FDNY because of thier gender and color. No mention of thier strength or skills needed. This is not important to these idiots! complete and utter a##holes!


17 posted on 05/17/2015 4:50:51 PM PDT by ronnie raygun
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To: minnesota_bound

They’re probably going to put him on disability because he’s obviously suffering from pyrophobia. (If there’s no such condition, they’ll just pretend that there is.)


18 posted on 05/17/2015 4:59:26 PM PDT by Bob (No, being a US Senator and the Secretary of State are not accomplishments; they're jobs.)
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To: ronnie raygun
I'll be UN-PC here, but I'd rather have a "marginally" intelligent, but powerful male *preferred minority* firefighter, who can follow his chief's instructions than a "smart" weakling female firefighter.

Who's going to knock down doors and rescue my family in a fire?

I'd prefer the strong male.

IF there's a woman who can physically do the job EXACTLY as well, then that's OK by me.

19 posted on 05/17/2015 5:49:29 PM PDT by boop (Hey, stoop, that's got gears. It ain't no Ford.)
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To: ronnie raygun

They are trying to match reality to the fiction they’ve been pushing on TV for decades; good luck with that. In the private sector it is harder to fake it; if someone can’t do the job then the work goes to someone who can. Companies have to keep the “fake workers” on the payroll, but in the end they have to pay the real workers. When my employer started handing out titles & money to tokens I cut my hours to the bare minimum (outlined when I was hired) and have enjoyed a much better work/life balance since.


20 posted on 05/17/2015 6:28:53 PM PDT by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic warfare against white males (and therefore white families).)
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