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What Happened After Appomattox
National Review Online ^ | May 16 2015 | MACKUBIN THOMAS OWENS

Posted on 05/16/2015 5:12:04 AM PDT by OttawaFreeper

The North rejoiced: The rebellion had been put down and the Union saved. But Northerners also breathed a sigh of relief. Many had feared that the Confederacy would not accept defeat, but instead would continue the struggle by means of guerrilla warfare. Indeed, Lee’s chief of artillery, E. Porter Alexander, had suggested this option before Lee’s surrender. The Confederate president, Jefferson Davis, also wished to continue the war in this manner. But Lee rejected the guerrilla option in favor of unifying the country. And General Joseph Johnston defied Davis’s orders to continue hostilities, instead surrendering his force to William Tecumseh Sherman at Durham Station in North Carolina in order to “save the people [and] spare the blood of the army.” But in reality, the war was not over. It would continue for nearly another decade and a half in the form of Reconstruction.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Virginia
KEYWORDS: americancivilwar; americanhistory; civilwar; dixie; dsj02
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I have always (even as a Canadian) been intrigued by Reconstruction and the significant what if (if Lincoln had not been assassinated). Also, maybe I am wrong with this, but I get the impression Andrew Johnson's antics seem to parallel how modern Democrats tend to behave. In any event, I always like to read other Freepers' thoughts on historical discussions like these.
1 posted on 05/16/2015 5:12:04 AM PDT by OttawaFreeper
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To: OttawaFreeper

Johnson is an interesting guy.

He was essentially a class warrior against the southern aristos he’d been patronized by and insulted for his whole life.

The problem is that in his innermost heart he was in awe of them, and when they sucked up to him after his becoming president he rolled over on his back.


2 posted on 05/16/2015 5:18:22 AM PDT by Sherman Logan
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To: OttawaFreeper
As an extension of the topic -- some historians have pointed to the "Wild West" as (at least in part) a type of guerrilla war waged in continuance of the Civil War. Jesse James, for one, would be seen as a Confederate terrorist robbing Northern banks and Northern railroads as a bit of "payback".

With the federal government fully in charge of the country, the push to the West picked up a lot of steam and many uprooted people moved West with grudges against the other side. It took a while for the "microaggresion" to settle down.

Not to be glib, but in the movie "Shane", the farmer character known as "Stonewall" is gunned down by Wilson (Jack Palance) in part because Wilson doesn't like the guy's nickname.

3 posted on 05/16/2015 5:20:42 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy ("It's not easy being drunk all the time; everyone would do it, if it were easy.")
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To: OttawaFreeper

Reconstruction would not have turned out as it did had Lincoln survived for the simple reason that the Radicals would have been unable to outmaneuver Lincoln.

Nobody EVER outmaneuvered Lincoln, probably the most effective pure politician in US history. Johnson, OTOH, was perhaps the worst. He alienated even people who really, really wanted to support him.


4 posted on 05/16/2015 5:20:46 AM PDT by Sherman Logan
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To: OttawaFreeper

Lee’s house became the Arlington cemetery center.

Lee lived at the Greenbrier for some time.


5 posted on 05/16/2015 5:24:09 AM PDT by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spiritui Sancto!)
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To: ClearCase_guy

Problem with the theory is that the James, Younger and Dalton gangs didn’t really operate in “the West.” They were pretty much entirely in what we now call the Middle West, which had been settled for most of a century by then.


6 posted on 05/16/2015 5:25:09 AM PDT by Sherman Logan
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To: combat_boots

Lee’s home was turned into a national cemetery as an insult to him.

Always seemed to me that having it be the resting place of the greatest American soldiers and other leaders is something Lee would have, in contrast, considered a great honor.


7 posted on 05/16/2015 5:27:26 AM PDT by Sherman Logan
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To: Sherman Logan

Let’s be honest. No one in Washington wanted Lee perched over them.


8 posted on 05/16/2015 5:28:40 AM PDT by AppyPappy (If you are not part of the solution, there is good money to be made prolonging the problem.)
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To: OttawaFreeper

Bkmk


9 posted on 05/16/2015 5:29:28 AM PDT by uncitizen (Pamela Geller - Peaceful Protestor)
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To: Qiviut

bookmark


10 posted on 05/16/2015 5:37:04 AM PDT by Qiviut ( One of the most delightful things about a garden is the anticipation it provides. ~W.E. Johns)
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To: Sherman Logan

Perhaps I am wrong to emphasize “The West” — but the James-Younger gang operated in these states: Missouri, Kentucky, Iowa, Texas, Arkansas, Kansas, and West Virginia. That encompasses a fair amount of the periphery of the Confederacy, where you can hit Northern interests (Banks and Railroads) while staying close to friends.


11 posted on 05/16/2015 5:37:59 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy ("It's not easy being drunk all the time; everyone would do it, if it were easy.")
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To: ClearCase_guy

Except, of course, for their rather disastrous raid on Northfield, MN.

I was not disagreeing with your basic concept, simply pointing out that the association of these gangs with The West is not really accurate.


12 posted on 05/16/2015 5:40:41 AM PDT by Sherman Logan
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To: OttawaFreeper

Would like to point out that this author has had a whole series of articles about the WBTS on NRO.

Here’s a link.

http://www.nationalreview.com/author/mackubin-thomas-owens

Highly recommended.


13 posted on 05/16/2015 5:44:26 AM PDT by Sherman Logan
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“He alienated even people who really, really wanted to support him.”........

Sounds an awful lot like odumbo.


14 posted on 05/16/2015 5:53:03 AM PDT by DaveA37
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To: OttawaFreeper

The South was brought to its knees.......
Reconstruction was an insult upon insults.....
If only Lincoln lived.....who knows......a kinder, gentler reconstruction?

But the South survived ......Atlanta rose from the ashes.....
And the South is considered the Bible Belt of the country.
We were brought to our knees......and the only place to look was up, from whence cometh our help.

or, at least, that’s the way it was for many years in our Judeo Christian nation.....
But that, too, may be gone with the wind soon.


15 posted on 05/16/2015 5:59:52 AM PDT by Guenevere (If the foundations are destroyed, what can the righteous do........Psalms 11:3)
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To: OttawaFreeper

Acknowledging the role of Southern Democrats in dismantling reconstruction is a vital component of LBJ’s brilliant efforts to institutionalize blacks in poverty status after the passage of civil rights law.
By providing financial support that required families be broken and fatherless generations of blacks have grown up without the foundation of an in tact family. This was more than incentive. It was and remains today a requirement. It was not simply unintended consequences.
Government welfare was a deliberate effort to create and sustain economic hardship and dependency in the black community. It persists even today with cries of more money for the embattled ghettos of Baltimore.


16 posted on 05/16/2015 6:04:50 AM PDT by Louis Foxwell (This is a wake up call. Join the Sultan Knish ping list.)
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To: OttawaFreeper

Reconstruction was an evil America has never fully recovered from.The awful calamity of civil war is a wound that has not been allowed to heal. Both North—and South tolerate each other almost like the Sunni and Shia of Islam.We have much in common—yet much that to this day divide us.


17 posted on 05/16/2015 6:16:53 AM PDT by StonyBurk (ring)
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To: OttawaFreeper

I think it interesting that the South, particularly its soldiers, eventually (if begrudgingly) accepted the unified nation. While it was not so much let “bye gones be bye gones” the collateral and longer term strife it produced is today pretty much an artifact. Apparently such is not the case for the legacy of slavery which was largely a national institution at its inception.


18 posted on 05/16/2015 6:20:57 AM PDT by yetidog
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To: OttawaFreeper

Yikes! I tought to some of the more nuanced libs, the mere utterance of “Jefferson Davis’” name was racist. To some it appears that there was absolutely NOTHING positive done by the southern states. Ever.


19 posted on 05/16/2015 6:40:33 AM PDT by rktman (Served in the Navy to protect the rights of those that want to take some of mine away. Odd, eh?)
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To: OttawaFreeper
..and Andrew Johnson was a predecessor of L.B.J.
20 posted on 05/16/2015 6:50:20 AM PDT by SandRat (Duty - Honor - Country! What else needs said?)
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