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Vatican recognizes state of Palestine in new treaty
AP ^ | 05/13/2015 | AP

Posted on 05/13/2015 7:06:01 AM PDT by GIdget2004

The Vatican has officially recognized the state of Palestine in a new treaty.

The treaty, which was finalized Wednesday but still has to be signed, makes clear that the Holy See has switched its diplomatic relations from the Palestinian Liberation Organization to the state of Palestine.

The Vatican had welcomed the decision by the U.N. General Assembly in 2012 to recognize a Palestinian state. But the treaty is the first legal document negotiated between the Holy See and the Palestinian state and constitutes an official recognition.

Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas is due to see Pope Francis on Saturday before the canonization of two new saints from the Holy Land a day later.

(Excerpt) Read more at bigstory.ap.org ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Israel; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: abbas; francis; israel; lastdays; palestine; palestinians; pope; popefrancis; romancatholicism; vatican; waronterror
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To: jsanders2001

I’m sure they’ll call it a “mistranslation”, or they’ll say he’s not a real Catholic. Well if he’s not a real Catholic, then why aren’t phone banks being set up by real Catholics calling their Cardinals to stand up to the Pope.

Is he really that invincible to regular Catholics?


21 posted on 05/13/2015 9:10:54 AM PDT by thetallguy24
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To: Da Coyote

You must be old. LOL I remember when mass was in latin.....


22 posted on 05/13/2015 10:06:25 AM PDT by Gator113 (~~Cruz, OR LOSE~~ Ted Cruz is the only true Conservative in this race.)
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To: Iron Munro

I said a long time ago this communist POS would eventually come out and declare that Jesus was merely a metaphor. Just watch. He has not yet begun to dismantle Catholicism and Christianity.

And he isn’t acting alone of his own accord. The entire church leadership knew this guy, knew what he was about, and installed him into power. Because they are just like him.


23 posted on 05/13/2015 11:51:17 AM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: thetallguy24

I don’t think you’ll find many Catholics on FR (I’m one of them) arguing in favor of this Pope and in particular of this decision.

And nobody thinks he’s invincible. You might be confusing it with infallibility, which only applies when the Pope is speaking ex cathedra, which has only happened twice since Vatican I (I, not II).


24 posted on 05/13/2015 11:51:49 AM PDT by alphadoggie
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To: Norm Lenhart

He does that, and Evangelical Christianity is going to get a lot more members here in the US.

As well as a bunch of hospitals and schools to run...


25 posted on 05/13/2015 11:54:50 AM PDT by alphadoggie
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To: alphadoggie

Better get your leadership to start the groundwork for it.

Look at the moves to date. The leadership of the church is ‘progressively’ X’ing off a pretty specific list to better integrate Catholics with a UN centered agenda. And they are doing it using Jesus’ name.

“Jesus would have this...” Or “Jesus taught...” that. Everything these guys come out with is either a contradiction to what Catholicism taught for well over 1000 years ir a ‘clarification”. ALL of it is in reality contradictory.

If ‘Jesus” were to just go away and simply be a metaphor, then that metaphor could tell the faithful anything the Vatican wanted without all the icky things that cost money to overcome and interfere with an orderly transition to global socialism (AKA Communism.

Just this week we went from the Dogma of God giving the earth to man, to the Dogma of radical environmentalism as core to church teaching.

Cloward Piven folks. Overwhelm the system. Hit people with so much, so hard, so fast that they can’t process it all. Thats whats happening here.

Jesus WILL be declared a mere metaphor. Bank on it.


26 posted on 05/13/2015 12:15:43 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: Iron Munro

They want to close schools because they get more money catering to the aging bingo crowd in the short term vs. investing in education....


27 posted on 05/13/2015 12:37:48 PM PDT by GraceG (Protect the Border from Illegal Aliens, Don't Protect Illegal Alien Boarders...)
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To: GIdget2004

The Romans named it Palaestina after crushing the Shimon Bar Kokhba revolt around the year, 132. The Romans did so for the purpose of erasing Jewish identity from the country (previously called Judea) and trying to own it. The Romans continue to propagandize and use diplomats to do the same.


28 posted on 05/13/2015 12:42:28 PM PDT by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of corruption smelled around the planet.)
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To: Psalm 73

-—Vatican knows that.” Are you sure? Has the Popester ever actually recognozed Israel? I don’t actually remember that happening. Will the Popester be doing queer marriages in the new land of PLO?


29 posted on 05/13/2015 12:51:23 PM PDT by cherokee1 (skip the names---just kick the buttz)
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To: GIdget2004

On ownership of Jerusalem, Israel and who will be allowed to live there.

Isaiah 43:11

Zechariah 14:9

And there’s been no change in that promise or any other policy.

Malachi 3:6

Anyone who rebels against that is the worst kind of rebel.


30 posted on 05/13/2015 12:53:58 PM PDT by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of corruption smelled around the planet.)
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To: Zionist Conspirator

Ping.


31 posted on 05/13/2015 12:55:33 PM PDT by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of corruption smelled around the planet.)
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To: GIdget2004

If they have a problem with the borders of the land given to Israel, they have a problem with the One who gave it.

Good luck with that. They won’t come to good ends.


32 posted on 05/13/2015 12:59:25 PM PDT by CatherineofAragon ("This is a Laztatorship. You don't like it, get a day's rations and get out of this office.")
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To: familyop

Exactly...they’ve stepped into very grave, very scary territory, indeed.


33 posted on 05/13/2015 1:00:27 PM PDT by CatherineofAragon ("This is a Laztatorship. You don't like it, get a day's rations and get out of this office.")
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To: GIdget2004

That’s nice.

But according to Shariah law, non-Muslims can not sit in judgement of the Believers.


34 posted on 05/13/2015 1:03:52 PM PDT by Tzimisce
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To: Iron Munro

>>I thought the church had learned something from their experience with Hitler 75 years ago but if so, this Pope seems to have forgotten it.

No he hasn’t. The “experience” was bad only because history remembers it. National Socialists are Socialists too. He just hopes that the near future will bring a world where there are no non-socialist nations and, therefore, no one to write the history of the coming global socialism.


35 posted on 05/13/2015 1:09:02 PM PDT by Bryanw92 (Sic semper tyrannis)
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To: thetallguy24

Exactly. Defenders will say the pope “actually” said the exact opposite.


36 posted on 05/13/2015 1:18:02 PM PDT by fwdude (The last time the GOP ran an "extremist," Reagan won 44 states.)
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To: alphadoggie

I’m curious, when do we know that a pope is speaking “ex cathedra?” When he says he is?


37 posted on 05/13/2015 1:19:14 PM PDT by fwdude (The last time the GOP ran an "extremist," Reagan won 44 states.)
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To: SJackson

for the ping list. *sigh*


38 posted on 05/13/2015 1:20:58 PM PDT by JoyjoyfromNJ (everything written by me on FR is my personal opinion & does not represent my employer)
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To: GIdget2004

I suppose I might get flamed for this (oh well I’m about to hop in my car for a 2 hour commute home) but:

Isn’t it better for the Vatican to have diplomatic relations with a (yet unformed) Palestinian “state” than the known terrorist organization called the “PLO”? I would think such a switch would be applauded.

The Vatican is ceasing diplomatic ties with the PLO and establishing new ties with a (now) non-existent state. This means the Vatican no longer recognizes the pLO as anything worth recognizing and, in addition, hasn’t recognized anything exists as far as the Palestinjan “state” is concerned because the Palestinian “state” doesn’t exist yet!

But maybe I’m missing something. I’ll read the flamage when I get home.


39 posted on 05/13/2015 1:31:27 PM PDT by FourtySeven (47)
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To: alphadoggie

I have never particularly been fond of this guy.


40 posted on 05/13/2015 2:04:34 PM PDT by Jaded (Really? Seriously?)
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