Posted on 05/07/2015 4:48:57 AM PDT by cotton1706
226 years ago yesterday (May 5th, 1789) the state of Virginia formally submitted the very first application for a Convention of States under Article V of the new United States Constitution. The 1st Congress under the new three-branch government stood up just two months prior in March of 1789. During the Philadelphia Convention of 1787 and in the ensuing years at the ratification debates there was strong argument made for including a “Bill of Rights” within the Constitution.
During the Convention, the delegates were mostly set against the inclusion of a bill of rights in the new Constitution, defeating efforts by George Mason and Elbridge Gerry to consider one. James Madison eventually became one who would promise that once the new government stood up, the Congress would introduce amendments under its own Article V amendment proposing power.
Today, when an elected official makes a “promise” our first inclination is to laugh. But Madison, like the majority of the framers, was a man of integrity and would make good on his promise. Madison was elected to House of Representatives in that very first Congress and actually attempted to introduce amendments for a Bill of Rights almost immediately in early May, but was thwarted in his first two attempts. Eventually he succeeded in getting his concepts for 12 amendments introduced in early June.
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This whole movement makes me very nervous. I definitely see the wisdom behind it, but I worry about the left’s ability to flood the convention with fellow travelers.
[ This whole movement makes me very nervous. I definitely see the wisdom behind it, but I worry about the left’s ability to flood the convention with fellow travelers. ]
The staes still have to ratify anything that comes out of them, and that takes 3/4ths of the states. If we have lost 3/4ths of the states, we might as well crash and burn this thing hard into the ground and get the reset started in the states that we still have.
Remember (2/3 to propose), (3/4 to ratify)
Interesting history lesson on Article V applications from the states.
But somehow it doesn't bother us that federal judges regularly amend the Constitution by decree. The President also issues Executive Orders that have the effect of law and need a super majority to be overturned by Congress and we don't fear that.
We live in a Post Constitutional America.
If you are going to worry so much over the Left, then you should lie down now and bow before their feet.
The fact is the Left is scared sh*tless over this Article V movement. So much so that Soros has offered to fully fund any leftist group that can write an executable plan to take over states and ratify amendments to the US Constitution.
The progress of the Left under Soros’ direction is ZERO.
A case in point: 38 states have either passed laws, or made amendments to their state constitutions, or had voter referendums, to uphold traditional marriage. This fact demonstrates the clear reality that America is still a conservative country.
The fact that the Left has control of 12 states is disconcerting because if they control just one more state, they can stop any Article V ratification by conservative states.
The Left is trying to turn red states blue; witness Colorado and Texas. In Texas the Left has failed abysmally. In Colorado they had initial success through deception but that is now reversing as the citizenry has awakened to their scam.
Other efforts the Left is attempting to gain in terms of constitutional leverage in any Article V battle are statehood for Puerto Rico and Washington DC. If either of these are granted statehood, they will most vertainly be blue states. Adding either of them to the states that Leftists presently control will thwart conservatives. For this reason conservatives will not allow statehood to be granted to these, because similarly to illegal aliens, they are set up as pawns in a political chess match.
But is it possible for Leftists to get anything ratified? NO! As the above mention of Soros sponsorship demonstrates, they are outgunned on the ground to PASS a Constitutional Amendment.
But can they STOP conservatives from ratifying a Constitutional Amendment? Not yet, but they are close.
So for conservatives there is nothing to fear in an Article V process. Leftists on the other hand are left trembling.
You are well-informed and spot on!
You sound exactly like Mark Levin.
The Article V movement combined with the very real prospect of a President Cruz represent the most potent threats to the Left since the election of Ronald Reagan as President of the USA.
They know they are beat on the ground in an Article V battle. They pray they can import a voting bloc of many many millions and strategically settle them where they will vote democrat thereby thwarting Article V momentum and defeating the election of a Conservative to the Presidency.
I see Article V as the beginning of a grand awakening of the American People to their own state politics for the first time in generations. I believe that state elections will become more heated and important.
I understand what you are saying, but there are states, such as my own beloved Maryland, that have many, many conservative residents who love this country, but, with gerrymandering, our state legislature is a lopsided mix with the Rats running everything. They get voted in by the heavily populated areas such as Baltimore.
Over half of the states challenged Obamacare and his despotic amnesty.
AZ attempted to control its southern border.
There is more than a whiff of resistance in the air.
States will not send reps to the convention. They will send tightly controlled delegates with commissions.
Here is Indiana’s.
The Left has nothing to gain and everything to lose from an Article V convention. The last 102 years have witnessed the march of unhindered socialism without the aid of further amendments. There is little time to restore our republic.
There is more than a whiff of resistance in the air.
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I pray you are right.
Eleven of Madison’s 12 amendments have been adopted, although it took 200 years to adopt one of them.
Short answers to your questions:
Gross Gerrymandering.
Urban welfare concentrations controlling entire states.
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