Posted on 05/05/2015 8:50:33 PM PDT by servo1969
More details are beginning to emerge about the incompetent Islamic terrorist attack on a free speech event held by the American Freedom Defense Initiative (AFDI) in Garland, Texas Sunday. Bearing Arms readers have asked for more details about how the actual shooting went down, and about the Garland police officer who used his duty sidearm to defeat two attackers armed with rifles within 15 seconds.
Please keep in mind that we don’t have all the details about the attack, the individual officer’s response, or the exact steps law enforcement took once the attack began, and that even if we had that information, we would withhold such details which may be useful for any other would-be terrorists attempting future attacks.
That said, we will provide analysis of some key pieces of publicly available information.
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At the point of the attack, the two suspects apparently drove up and opened fire upon an unarmed security guard who was accompanied by a 60-year-old Garland police officer. The unarmed guard was struck the volley of gunfire. The veteran Garland officer then drew his duty-issue Glock pistol and opened fire on the suspects.
The officer killed one terrorist and wounded the other in his initial volley of return fire. Witnesses claim there was a brief pause, and then the officer fire two more shots to kill the still-moving terrorist as he appears to be reaching for a backpack. The entire event lasted 15 seconds, with heavily-armed Garland SWAT converging on the scene immediately afterward.
We’re not going to mention any more about the officer who took out these terrorists, only that to give an idea of his approximate position in relation to the terrorists as he engaged them.
The evidence markers at the bottom of the photo above show us a remarkable story, as they denote the final locations of the shell casings ejected from the officer’s Glock duty pistol. While every pistol is different from another in its ejection pattern, and the movement of the officer and the cant of his gun precludes us from knowing exactly where he was, there, is a distinct trial of shells showing that the officer was moving forward from the bottom left of the photo above towards the terrorists at the rear of the vehicle. He appears to have opened fire from 20 yards away, and fired at least a dozen shots by the time he reached an area near the traffic cones, roughly 7-10 yards from where the terrorists died.
Second photo taken from the opposite angle (below) seems to confirm this determined officer’s advance on the terrorists while firing.
Note: the damage to the vehicle driven by the terrorists was from controlled demolitions from EOD units ensuring that the car was not a VBIED (vehicle-borne improvised explosive device).
There seems to be a great deal of skepticism regarding whether or not the suspects were wearing body armor and whether they were armed with “automatic weapons” or “assault rifles” or something else entirely. Other photos from the crime scene suggest answers to those questions as well.
In the image above, we have drawn an orange rectangle around what appears to be blood-drenched halves of a soft body armor carrier worn by one of the terrorists. Most people don’t seem to grasp that there are multiple grades of soft body armor, that these materials degrade over time, and that the armor panels themselves do not often cover the entire torso, leaving gaps under the arms, below the ribs, and at the neck.
We simply don’t know if the officer’s bullets compromised the armor or went around the armor panels, but it is quite clear that there was soft body armor worn by at least one of the terrorists, and that it did not prevent him from being quickly taken out of of the fight.
Did the terrorists have “automatic weapons” as some mainstream media outlets initially claimed?
The media claim of “automatic weapons” or “machine guns” is always to be discounted until positively affirmed beyond the shadow of a doubt by firearms experts (not law enforcement public information officers), simply based on how difficult it is to obtain automatic weapons in the United States.
What we do have is two separate images that appear to show long guns recovered at the scene. We’ve taken part of the image above and flipped it vertically below in an effort to better determine what we’re looking at.
It isn’t anything we immediately recognize, though we can say for certain that it doesn’t appear to be any centerfire variant or an AR-15 or AKM. While the photo we have to work with is frankly horrible, our best guess is that The firearm we’re looking at is a most likely Kel-Tec SUB-2000, a popular and inexpensive pistol caliber carbine shown below.
Partially obscured behind evidence marker 34 is what appears to be a firearm with an AR-15-type front sight post, but the quality of the image and amount of the gun covered by the evidence marker make it impossible to tell what we’re really looking at.
Is this a legitimate centerfire AR-15? Is this a rimfire copy? Is this an airgun, designed to look enough like an AR-15 to win a jihadi his martyrdom?
Frankly, I’m tempted to think that we’re looking at a “faux-15″ martyrdom special or a .22 clone, considering we’ve not be able to track down credible reports of the distinctively different reports of a centerfire rifle fire, and the confirmed Glock pistol-fire from the Garland officer.
We’re not ruling out the possibility that this was a centerfire AR-15 recovered at the scene, we’re simply noting that there wasn’t much evidence suggesting it was able to be brought into play by the terrorists.
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No matter how you break down the details, this was an incredible display of bravery and marksmanship by this 30+ year veteran of the Garland Police Department, who not only resisted the natural urge to create distance between yourself and rifle-armed assailants, but who appears to have done precisely the opposite, and who advanced while firing accurately, bringing the attack to a swift conclusion without a single additional casualty once he brought his weapon to bear.
Determined people with good training and a decent handgun can indeed defeat the most zealous fanatic.
Get out there and train folks. Maybe one day it will be your turn to be the one standing on the line defending liberty from savagery.
Update: We’d like to thank Kaitian for finding a higher resolution image of the SUB-2000 used in the attack, which we’ve swapped out in the story above.
@bob_owens Don’t know if you know but there’s a higher resolution picture of the gun used. https://t.co/39OmgBAclL
Kaitian (@Kaitian1) May 5, 2015
Go back to porn. It’s effortless.
Or, take time time to read, and learn.
Your liberty and mine depend on it.
Your craven, jihadist-sympathizing comments here make me think you'd be a pretty weak sister in the fight against Marxism.
Zot.
Islamic apologists are nothing more than collaborators. They are not our FRiends.
Your post suggests that you’re a complete moron and likely a troll.
OReilly and Laura are wrong. I am not even going to bother explaining it to you....
The human spirit is inherently evil and is known as our sin nature. Only by believing that Jesus Christ is our Lord and Savior can we be saved from our sin nature. Islam is a Satanic Death Cult and it's followers are doomed to perdition.
Why am I not surprised that you admit to being a depraved degenerate?
have I overestimated the intellect on this site?
No, you merely attempted to bring things down to your depraved level.
And, for that, you got the ZOT!
Adios.
Not sure about that. Look at it in ultrahigh rez and zoom in. It’s got a weird stock if it’s an AK.
http://newshour-tc.pbs.org/newshour/wp-content/uploads/2015/05/RTX1BIOQ.jpg
Ping.
These were pikers
Bring a kel tec 9mm carbine to a firefight in Texas?
I’m glad they were stupid
Well armed and well trained
This coulda been a bloodbath
But to attack a protected event in of all places Texas where even most women can shoot
Well....these misfits were just fodder
Nice shooting for an old guy
Looks like he followed the Hickock adage
Stay calm and advance on target and aim.....above all...aim
“This event was a display of freedom of speech.. you are the one with low intellect. OReilly and sycophant Ingraham are pandering to their viewing audience.”
Right, and Megyn Kelly followed O’Gasbag and Ingram blowing off that stupid Black sycophant Richard Fowler who took the same position. She showed she was a firm 1st Amendment adherent tonight, unlike the lily-livered O’Reilly. There is no BUT associated with the First Amendment!
No
You overestimated your own intellect
I hate to break it to you but Freepers don’t even like O’butthead
He smeared us on air many years ago interviewing Kristinn
He’s a dick
Laura is defending her beloved Catholicism in a stupid way
So should we not criticize satanism? How about Scientology? What about Jim Jones “religion”? Much less the butchers of Islam?
“is it really going to convince me that you can brainwash a billion and a half people to believe in evil deeds?”
Yes you can when you take into consideration the inbreeding that goes on in “Muslim Society.” If you doubt my assertion, I would suggest you Google “Saudi Arabian Drifting videos.” Watch these single digit IQ holding idiots kill themselves, and you will realize that they are all mentally defective, and they have a book that “helps” them realize their “goals.”
He had to drill muzzie two after was down and going for his back pack
Truly wonderful shooting by an oldster with a Glock....which I confess i don’t love
But he’s lucky they weren’t well trained or as importantly....better heeled
Think some raghead haji who is strapped with some grenades and a nice 7.62 semi auto with beta mag and shoulder strap and real armour
Imagine Haiji had taken his cue from the North Hollywood bank robbers or the 80s era Rome and Vienna EL AL mass murders
Woulda been horrible
These clowns were social media and local mosque inspired
God I hope we don’t get Chechnya type martyrs attacking our malls or churches
God help us
Concur. These guys were wannabes.
My personal nightmare is a Beslan scenario with Chechens, as you alluded to. From that can come only heartbreak and insurrection.
Just flushing out the game...
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