Tsarnaev brothers' Russian links off limits for Moscow media

theguardian.com ^ | May 3, 2015 | Shaun Walker

[Tailgunner Joe]

The trial of Dzhokar Tsarnaev has gripped America, but in Russia the Boston bomber’s trial has received little media coverage, with even the arrival of five Tsarnaev family members from Russia to testify receiving no attention.

The relatives are staying in Massachusetts over the weekend, after a sick juror meant their testimony for the defence could not be heard on Thursday. But Russian state-controlled media has shown little interest in their trip to the US, and a decision appears to have been taken that the Tsarnaevs’ links to Russia should be played down.

On 8 April, the jury convicted Tsarnaev of charges related to the bombing of the Boston marathon in 2013, and now the 12-person jury has to decide whether he should face the death penalty or spend life in prison without parole. The jury found Dzhokar and his brother Tamerlan carried out the attack, which killed three people and left 260 wounded. Tamerlan was killed in a shoot-out with police in the aftermath of the bombing.

In the few recent reports from the courthouse aired on Russian state television, there has been no mention at all of the fact that the Tsarnaev brothers were of Chechen descent or that they had links to Russia in any way. President Vladimir Putin staked his reputation on defeating an Islamic insurgency in Chechnya and Dagestan, and the sight of Russia-linked terrorists causing bloodshed in the US could undermine that narrative.

[RedStateRocker]

IIRC the Russians tried to warn us but we ignored it. I could be wrong, too busy to find the cite at the moment.

[Tailgunner Joe]

If the Russians knew Tsarnaev was a threat then why did they allow him to travel to Russia in 2012?

[null and void]

FYI

[ETL]

I still suspect the Russians were in-part behind the 911 attacks.

[McGruff]

Dzhokar’s parents are of Chechen and Dagestani origin but he was born in Kyrgyzstan and only briefly lived in Russia. At the time of the Boston attack he was already a naturalised US citizen.

Chechnya is a sore subject in Russia, however. Moscow fought two bloody wars to keep the republic under its control, and even now, the Caucasus insurgency occasionally makes itself felt more widely in Russia, with terror attacks in Moscow or other cities.

[RedStateRocker]

I don’t know.

Here is one of two things I found here on FR

http://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3012148/posts.

Frontpage mag FWIW

[freedumb2003]

>>The trial of Dzhokar Tsarnaev has gripped America, but in Russia the Boston bomber’s trial has received little media coverage, with even the arrival of five Tsarnaev family members from Russia to testify receiving no attention.<<

Or as Pravda calls him, “Donny Smith.”

[Paid_Russian_Troll]

It is not in frontpage news but there is certainly some coverage of Tsarnaev trial in Russia.

[Liz]

Bomber Tamerlan was killed in a shoot-out with police in the aftermath of the bombing.

Clarificaion: Dzokhar killed his brother Tamerlan.

Dzokhar aimed his stolen SUV at the officers engaged in the shoot-out.

He missed the cops......but he ran over Tamerlan and sped away....dragging his brother to death attached to the SUV's undercarriage.

[Sacajaweau]

They warned us more than once. IIRC, Obama was in a pi**y mood cuz Russia was cutting off adoptions because of serious problems. And there was another matter...a tit for tat thing.

Regardless...about the brothers....Obama told Putin to buzz off. Of course, the administration have lied their a...... off and will continue.

[Liz]

Survivors outraged after learning Tsarnaev's family's trip to US paid for with American tax dollars
MyFox Boston ^ | 4/24/15 / FT Posted by Impala64ssa

The family of the convicted marathon bomber is in America, on your tax dollars, and survivors are outraged after learning the news. As of Thursday, family members of Dzhokhar Tsarnaev have been staying at the Hampton Inn in Revere under very tight security, just one of the things tax dollars are paying for.

FOX25's Sharman Sacchetti investigated how much this trip is costing you. Sources say these family members are being called as witnesses and not only that, at least three agencies are working around the clock to protect and transport them. This is all part of the defense team's strategy to save Tsarnaev.

While it's unclear when their flight started, we know the last part of it came through Amsterdam and landed at Logan Airport and cost nearly $2,500 per person. The cost to put them up at the Hampton Inn at the government rate: almost $200 per night, per person. And a source says at least three agencies, the FBI, US Marshal's and Revere Police are involved in constant protection.

“I think you're probably talking about $100,000 plus in that neighborhood in terms of security and out of pocket costs associated with travel,” former US attorney Michael Sullivan said. And that's just for this trip. Lawyer fees or even what all witnesses during the trial cost is still unclear.

One defense witness, Mark Spencer of Arsenal Consulting, charged $375 per hour and billing taxpayers for $150,000. Governor Charlie Baker said, “It's a federal trial, it's a federal case, the feds ultimately need to make the decisions about this.” Baker was non-committal about how resources are being used, even state ones. Sullivan told Sacchetti that while he understands taxpayer outrage, the whole point is to make sure it's done right. (Excerpt) Read more at myfoxboston.com ...

[Liz]

BETCHA THE BOMBING SURVIVORS DIDN'T KNOW ABOUT THIS--- Within hours of the Boston Marathon blasts, US government officials, and Muslims, in Boston called each other to offer assistance......just in case THE MUZZIES suffered backlash or threats.

REFERENCE Federal outreach to Muslim American communities is a pillar of Obama counter-terrorism strategy
Washington post | 5/25/2013 | ap / FR Posted by tobyhill

Within hours of the Boston Marathon blasts, government officials and Muslims in Boston called each other to offer assistance. These calls were the fruits of years of cultivating such relationships in an effort to ultimately prevent the very type of attack Boston experienced April 15....

Representatives from the US Departments of Justice and Homeland Security called to offer support to Muslim communities......just in case THEY suffered backlash or threats. (more on FR).

ISLAM IS ALL ABOUT TRIUMPHALISM Bostonians better prepare for the US govt subsidizing the building of a mosque close to the Boston Marathon finish line b/c Islam is all about "triumphalism"......they'll get lotsa help from Democrat Obomba, Democrat Secy of State Kerry, and the Democrats currently running Boston govt.

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Then-US Sen Kerry's "credentials," presented to Ohaha when the Secy of State job became available.

BTW, this is the mosque where the Tsarnaev's worshipped

[Paid_Russian_Troll]

‘I still suspect the Russians were in-part behind the 911 attacks.’

And the reason is? The only hypothetical reason which comes to mind is to help Bush reelection and create conditions to US military engagement in Middle East. These are the most immediate and not unexpected political consequences of 911, none contribute a bit to a Russian interest.
But you have to be a tinfoil conspiracy nut to believe in such a crap anyway.
If you are still believing it also makes a theory of Saudi connection more likely.
They are the group who benefited the most as a result.

[Liz]

Survivors outraged that Tsarnaev family's trip to US paid for with their tax dollars..... frankly, I'm surprised Bostonians are surprised....b/c the US govt mandates that struggling taxpayers foot the bill for these people to go back and forth between America and their "supposedly" hostile homelands on the taxpayers' dime.

Taxpayers footed the bills for the entire buck-sucking Tsarnaev's for a long, l-o-n-g time. When these immigrants get to the US they claim "asylum" b/c that triggers endless monthly Social Security checks ......that's just for starters.

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BACKSTORY Immediately after the Boston bombing, then-Democrat Mass Gov Deval Patrick ordered Massachusetts govt agencies to conceal welfare documents from taxpayers. But sources who saw 500 pages of welfare documents (requested by a state legislator) told News Center 5 that the entire Chechnyan immigrant Tsarnaev family collected upwards of $100,00 tax dollars free and clear. MA taxpayers financed the killing and maiming of their own friends and neighbors.

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MASSACHUSETTS TAXPAYERS WERE UNKNOWINGLY FORCED TO FINANCE THE TSARNEV BROTHERS' DIRTY DEEDS BIGTIME ---After the Boston bombing, Massachusetts Democrat Gov Deval Patrick refused to divulge info WRT massive public assistance to the bomber killers/Chechen immigrants.

But state welfare officials were forced to come clean b/c the info is available to lawmakers. State Rep David Linsky called on the Mass Dept of Transitional Assistance to provide the info..... issuing an ultimatum, giving them 24 hours to provide the info.

The Boston Herald published the state's response: 'My office is working to fully comply with your request,' DTA interim commissioner Stacey Monahan wrote, saying they were only providing a summary 'given the great interest in this matter.'

Chechen immigrants--the bombers' parents----were eligible as legal, non-citizen residents who claimed "asylum" status and met the eligibility criteria for DTA, DTA interim commissioner Stacey Monahan said in a letter to David Linsky, Chairman of the Mass House Post Audit and Oversight Committee.

Multiple state agencies, on orders from Democrat Gov Patrick, refused to comment on the bomber brothers' welfare haul.

<><> WRT Tamerlan receiving UI benefits, Labor dept spokesman Kevin Franck refused to comment....

<><> Univ of Mass-- Dartmouth spokesman Robert Connolly refused to comment on the financial aid app of 19 -year-old soph Dzhokhar. 'It is our position - and I believe the accepted position in higher education - that student records including academic records and financial records (including financial aid) cannot under federal law be released without a student’s consent.'

<><> The FCC would not discuss whether the suspected bombers had govt-paid Obamaphones.

<><> Cambridge housing officials would not comment on if the brothers had Section 8 rental subsidy offered by the HUD to low income households.

<><> Chechen immigrants--the bombers' parents--were legal, non-citizen residents who claimed "asylum" status and met the eligibility criteria for endless SS checks.

<><> In sum, while planning the bombing, the Chechneyan immigrants received every conceivable tax-paid public benefit available out there.

[ETL]

The Kremlin’s Troll Army: Moscow is financing legions of pro-Russia Internet commenters:

A June article by Max Seddon of BuzzFeed reported the Kremlin was spending millions of dollars to pay English-speaking Russians to promote President Vladimir Putin and his policies in U.S. media like Fox News broadcasting and The Huffington Post and Politico news sites. Trolls are reportedly expected to manage multiple fake accounts and post on news articles 50 times a day, often with sentiments as simplistic as “Putin makes Obama look stupid and weak!”

http://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2014/08/the-kremlins-troll-army/375932/
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Documents Show How Russia’s Troll Army Hit America:

http://www.buzzfeed.com/maxseddon/documents-show-how-russias-troll-army-hit-america

[Paid_Russian_Troll]

Well, FBI told that Russia hasn’t provided complete information on what exactly the brothers were up to. FBI were only cabled (on numerous occasions) that the older brother has traveled to Dagestan and met with prominent terrorists who used to build IEDs to blow federal forces and also discussed jihad on the phone with his mother.
A typical ‘refugee’, nothing to see there!

[ETL]

consequences of 911, none contribute a bit to a Russian interest.

Just when Russia is about to begin a comeback, following the so-called 'collapse' of the Soviet Union, the heart of the US economy is suckered punched and we're thrust into a war where even more dollars and resources will be spent. That would obviously benefit the Russians. Do they pay you in US dollars, Troll?

[Paid_Russian_Troll]

‘Trolls are reportedly expected to manage multiple fake accounts and post on news articles 50 times a day, often with sentiments as simplistic as “Putin makes Obama look stupid and weak!”’

Why do you post your spam all over again? I have already expressed my opinion following exactly the same post of yours. Isn’t it against the rules here to spam threads with unrelated identical posts like that?

I once again repeat you are free to worship Obama as much as you wish or post how strong and smart he is whenever you want.
I am not sure if this website is proper tribune for it though.
Maybe you should join yahoo boards and show these trolls that they are pikers and you are the boss?

Tell them Obama makes Putin look stupid a hundred times a day so they would learn the power of Obamabots and leave their futile efforts to smear a dear leader.

[ETL]

I once again repeat you are free to worship Obama as much as you wish

A remark like that just shows how full of sh*t you are.