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Like the President and Hillary, My Views on Marriage Have Evolved
National Review ^ | 04/28/2015 | David French

Posted on 04/28/2015 7:23:44 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

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1 posted on 04/28/2015 7:23:44 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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Ghey


2 posted on 04/28/2015 7:27:27 AM PDT by wolfman23601
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To: SeekAndFind

“one that began two generations ago when Baby Boomers decided they needed to shed their spouses at will...”

The no-fault revolution began before any baby-boomers were old enough to marry.


3 posted on 04/28/2015 7:29:03 AM PDT by Jim Noble (If you can't discriminate, you are not free)
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I don’t care what they do to each other, just don’t ask me to participate baking cakes for them, etc. LEAVE ME ALONE!


4 posted on 04/28/2015 7:31:15 AM PDT by ThePatriotsFlag ($$$$$ Don't Defund the Government...Defund Obama and his illegal policies $$$$$)
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To: SeekAndFind
In 2004, I was wrong and Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton were right. The definition of marriage should not change. In fact, Ms. Clinton was so right, that I’ll close by quoting her:

She said then:

“I believe that marriage is not just a bond but a sacred bond between a man and a woman. [It’s a] fundamental bedrock principle that exists between a man and a woman, going back into the mists of history as one of the founding, foundational institutions of history and humanity and civilization, and that its primary, principal role during those millennia has been the raising and socializing of children for the society into which they are to become adults.”
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I hope Ted Cruz makes that line from Hillary come back to bite her big, fat rump!

5 posted on 04/28/2015 7:33:40 AM PDT by bramps (Even if I have to write it in, Ted Cruz is whom I'm voting for.)
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” Churches can still speak out against sexual immorality and can still choose not to perform gay weddings.”

For now. The gaystapo won’t allow it for long.


6 posted on 04/28/2015 7:33:58 AM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (True followers of Christ emulate Christ. True followers of Mohammed emulate Mohammed.)
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You do not need to recognize marriage as a God-ordained institution to recognize that 100% of children come from heterosexual unions. Without that fact the government would have no interest in any kind of marriage. While heterosexual marriage may be imperfect, it is still the ideal that should be encouraged above all others. Liberals want the state to hold primary responsibility for children. It used to be that conservatives understood that families should hold primary responsibility and that gov’t was only a safety net for failure and tragedies.


7 posted on 04/28/2015 7:38:49 AM PDT by The Ghost of FReepers Past (Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light..... Isaiah 5:20)
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To: SeekAndFind

Good article but serves to illustrate the author is susceptible to ‘fads’ except in this case he sees ‘the fruit’ which is social tyranny.


8 posted on 04/28/2015 7:39:19 AM PDT by Hostage (ARTICLE V)
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I’m glad he admits he was wrong. However, it was always excruciatingly obvious that homosexual marriage was going to be used as a tool to attack Christians. Since he was unable to see it until he had his nose stuffed in the results, I don’t see much value to his opinions on anything.


9 posted on 04/28/2015 7:42:04 AM PDT by Mr Rogers (Can you remember what America was like in 2004?)
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To: ThePatriotsFlag

They won’t leave you alone. This began with “what two people do in the privacy of their own bedroom is nobody’s business.” It is now the business of school children who have to sit through lessons on this garbage. It is the business of government. It is the business of all businesses if they want to avoid court and high fines. You must approve or you will be punished.


10 posted on 04/28/2015 7:43:52 AM PDT by The Ghost of FReepers Past (Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light..... Isaiah 5:20)
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To: SeekAndFind

At least he is owning up to being wrong. I applaud his bravery in saying so.


11 posted on 04/28/2015 7:50:23 AM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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To: Hostage

The author really doesn’t get it.

The issue here isn’t same sex marriage. It’s how opposition to same sex marriage can be used to justify the utter destruction of anyone holding that view.

The issue is never the issue. The issue is always the revolution. If it wasn’t same sex marriage it would be something else.

Heck, in recent weeks I’ve seen, on social media, people espousing the view that “I support gay marriage but I think people who don’t support it shouldn’t be forced to bake cakes (etc)” get visciously attacked and threatened.


12 posted on 04/28/2015 7:51:29 AM PDT by tanknetter
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To: Blood of Tyrants

Yeah, the author misses the point.
This really isn’t about gays or marriage at all.
It’s about finding the point of Christian resistance and criminalizing it.


13 posted on 04/28/2015 7:52:15 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: The Ghost of FReepers Past

“You do not need to recognize marriage as a God-ordained institution to recognize that 100% of children come from heterosexual unions. Without that fact the government would have no interest in any kind of marriage”

Untrue.

Every society has rules to channel and regulate sexual expression, for reasons that should be obvious.

Indissoluble man-woman pair bonding, which all human societies have I common, is an important component of this universal phenomenon.


14 posted on 04/28/2015 7:54:21 AM PDT by Jim Noble (If you can't discriminate, you are not free)
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I recognize it as God-orgained. But it is not required to recognize that in order to recognize that man-woman unions are special.

In the same way the heavens declare the glory of God, nature declares the uniqueness and specialness of heterosexuality through the children it produces. God wrote it into our genetic code and it can be seen whether we acknowledge Him or not.


15 posted on 04/28/2015 7:59:16 AM PDT by The Ghost of FReepers Past (Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light..... Isaiah 5:20)
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To: The Ghost of FReepers Past

Of course I agree.

I was pointing out that children are not the ONLY reason the state has an interest in marriage.


16 posted on 04/28/2015 8:05:39 AM PDT by Jim Noble (If you can't discriminate, you are not free)
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Well, good on the writer for his frank admission about being wrong and failing to recognize that the slippery slope truly does exist. I wonder what other little slice of reality has escaped his notice while others were pointing out the nose on his face????


17 posted on 04/28/2015 8:10:02 AM PDT by T-Bird45 (It feels like the seventies, and it shouldn't.)
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I see. Well, while there may be other benefits to society in recognizing it, the core reason is about children, whether or not all heterosexual unions produce children. It is irrelevant that every heterosexual union does not produce children. The important thing is that every child comes from these unions, AND ONLY THESE UNIONS. Minus mom and dad, children become the responsibility of government. That is HUGH AND SERIES.


18 posted on 04/28/2015 8:12:29 AM PDT by The Ghost of FReepers Past (Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light..... Isaiah 5:20)
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To: The Ghost of FReepers Past

Male polygamy and female hypergamy, unregulated, will destroy any society.


19 posted on 04/28/2015 8:31:04 AM PDT by Jim Noble (If you can't discriminate, you are not free)
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The situation in Baltimore is precisely what you get when you routinely dismiss the importance of moral, stable, father-mother marriages that are devoted to rearing their children in loving, safe environments and instilling in them tried and true values. Involved Fathers are essential to controlling the sons of a family. I know, I reared two of them.

Leftist Democrats gave us the Detroit’s, St. Louis’s, Baltimore’s and many more. I am not too high on Republicans, but why ANYBODY would vote for a Democrat is inexplicable to me. It is obvious they have poisoned everything they touch.


20 posted on 04/28/2015 8:33:39 AM PDT by RatRipper (Obama has made me the slave of sluggards.)
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