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To: SeekAndFind

You do not need to recognize marriage as a God-ordained institution to recognize that 100% of children come from heterosexual unions. Without that fact the government would have no interest in any kind of marriage. While heterosexual marriage may be imperfect, it is still the ideal that should be encouraged above all others. Liberals want the state to hold primary responsibility for children. It used to be that conservatives understood that families should hold primary responsibility and that gov’t was only a safety net for failure and tragedies.


7 posted on 04/28/2015 7:38:49 AM PDT by The Ghost of FReepers Past (Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light..... Isaiah 5:20)
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To: The Ghost of FReepers Past

“You do not need to recognize marriage as a God-ordained institution to recognize that 100% of children come from heterosexual unions. Without that fact the government would have no interest in any kind of marriage”

Untrue.

Every society has rules to channel and regulate sexual expression, for reasons that should be obvious.

Indissoluble man-woman pair bonding, which all human societies have I common, is an important component of this universal phenomenon.


14 posted on 04/28/2015 7:54:21 AM PDT by Jim Noble (If you can't discriminate, you are not free)
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To: The Ghost of FReepers Past

Good points-

I want to add- marriage is a CONTRACT between the gov and the peoipel wishing to be married, and contracts are NOT a ‘right’- they are NOT issued to everyone simply because someone htinks they have aq right to it- people can not marry their flowers, they can’t marry underage people, they can’t marrty close relatives, thay can’t marry dead people, they can’t marry ... etc etc etc

Marriage is NOT a right, it is a contract issued to people who meet a requirement-

This contract is granted for the sole purpose of incentivizing couples to procreate In order to raise future tax payers, and to allow people of opposite sex the ability to marry even if they can’t procreate because it is a natural right, AND not a natural EXCEPTION like homosexuality, necrophilia, pedophilia, bestiality, etc etc etc- all DEVIENT divergences from the NORMAL order of things, and ALL DEVIENT practices which cause harm not just to the people practicing it, but also to the victims, AND to society

Gays claim denial of gay marriage is a violation on the order of racism- however, denying people marriage based on skin color is unconstitutional because it denies it based on CHARACTERISTICS of a person- but denying gay marriage is basing it on the ACTIONS of a group of people ie: homosexual acts- and society IS allowed to step in and declare acts immoral- Gay people don’t like this- yet societies have ALWAYS decided what is moral and what isn’t based on a group of people’s ACTS- Like IO stated above, a man can not go into a court and demand that he be allowed to marry a child, and claim the court must allow it because if it doesn’t, it is violating his right to feel the way he feels- he can NOT claim discrimination when there are clear laws against IMMORAL Behavior

That is what is at stake here- does the supreme court consider gay marriage IMMORAL or not? The answer should be clear- it IS a deviant lifestyle every bit as immoral as polygamy, pedophilia, necromancy, bestiality etc- REGARDLESS of whether or not the two participants ‘consent’ or not!

Marriage is NOT a right, it is a privilege, it is a contract where those wishing to engage in it MUST meet certain criteria- if it was a ‘right’ then no one could be denied it, and there would be NO laws against ANY DEVEINT marriage


32 posted on 04/28/2015 11:00:48 AM PDT by Bob434
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