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Russian Defense Ministry Reveals First Photo of New Armata T-14 Tank
The Moscow Times ^ | April 21, 2015

Posted on 04/21/2015 11:05:02 PM PDT by sukhoi-30mki

Russian Defense Ministry

The Armata battle tank is part of a massive rearmament program costing hundreds of billions of dollars that aims to restore some of the military might that Russia lost after the collapse of the Soviet Union.

Russia's Defense Ministry on Tuesday published the first official photo of the country's much awaited new T-14 Armata battle tank.

Ten Armata tanks are set to take part in Moscow's Red Square Parade on May 9, according to details published alongside a photo of the tank in an interactive section dedicated to Victory Day on the ministry's website.

The Armata is part of a massive rearmament program costing hundreds of billions of dollars that aims to restore some of the military might that Russia lost after the collapse of the Soviet Union.

Photos claiming to show the weapon were leaked on the Internet in late March, when tanks covered in tarps and resting on a train carriage were spotted in Alabino outside Moscow.

The tanks were reportedly rehearsing their movements for this year's Victory Day Parade, when Russia celebrates the 70th anniversary of the Soviet victory over Nazi Germany.

The ministry's newly launched interactive portal specifies the lineup for each Victory Day parade planned for 26 cities across Russia — including Moscow, St. Petersburg, Novosibirsk, Vladivostok and Crimea's Sevastopol.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Russia
KEYWORDS: armor; mbt; russia
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1 posted on 04/21/2015 11:05:02 PM PDT by sukhoi-30mki
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To: sukhoi-30mki

A lot bigger turret than the T-72. Wonder if they got rid of the auto loader?


2 posted on 04/21/2015 11:09:01 PM PDT by doorgunner69
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To: doorgunner69

Alright experts. Newbie here. Military illiterate. Is this a good tank, is it better than or not as good as ours? Thanks in advance.


3 posted on 04/21/2015 11:15:58 PM PDT by dp0622
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To: sukhoi-30mki
Next, the T-1000.
4 posted on 04/21/2015 11:17:08 PM PDT by PieterCasparzen (Do we then make void the law through faith? God forbid: yea, we establish the law.)
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To: sukhoi-30mki
Re: “Ten Armata tanks are set to take part in Moscow's Red Square Parade on May 9.”

So, the USA needs 10 more drones and 10 more 250 pound armor piercing smart bombs?

5 posted on 04/21/2015 11:37:32 PM PDT by zeestephen
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To: PieterCasparzen
Had one. It was a piece of crap.


6 posted on 04/21/2015 11:39:52 PM PDT by FredZarguna (It looks just like a Telefunken U-47 -- with leather.)
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To: doorgunner69
A lot bigger turret than the T-72. Wonder if they got rid of the auto loader?

The Russian inscription on the photo says the Armata has an improved auto-loader.

7 posted on 04/21/2015 11:44:47 PM PDT by Freelance Warrior (A Russian.)
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To: PieterCasparzen

the T-1000 was one of the first metal tennis rackets made by the Wilson Company made famous by jimmy Connors.


8 posted on 04/21/2015 11:47:16 PM PDT by 353FMG
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To: sukhoi-30mki
Wait, zoom in on that driver.

I thought so!

9 posted on 04/21/2015 11:51:53 PM PDT by Impy (They pull a knife, you pull a gun. That's the CHICAGO WAY, and that's how you beat the rats!)
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To: sukhoi-30mki

Another big hunk of Russian armored garbage. I don’t even care to look at its specifications or claimed performance attributes.

I’m sure it’s the most awesome and fear-inducing military tank ever made, completely outclassing the degenerate bloodthirsty Westerners’ designs by every discernible measure which is now to strike fear in heart of enemies of glorious motherland and make all soil into their trouser-pants. RUSSIA TANK IS BEST!

Slavs gonna Slav. What can you do?


10 posted on 04/21/2015 11:52:32 PM PDT by The KG9 Kid
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To: sukhoi-30mki
The inscriptions says:

A tank of the "Armata" family is intended to be used an MBT of the Russian ground forces, has radically new tactical-technical specifications and an improved auto-loader.

11 posted on 04/21/2015 11:52:43 PM PDT by Freelance Warrior (A Russian.)
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To: sukhoi-30mki

looka a bit like the Israeli merkava to me..not sure why (except the turret)

that turret is very high...going by the body height of the tanker guy, lets assume his torso is 3 feet, its a lot higher than that...also the big barrel thing at the back of the turret..hardly fuel is it...?? if it is good luck with that russia...

doesnt look a lot different that a t-80 to me.

the ruskies will do what they do, they will build thousands of them...that consistency you can always rely on.

would love to have a peek at the fire control systems, will they still have the autoloader that rips limbs off and shoves them in the barrel i wonder? (or was that a web story too far?)

sorry a bit of a tank nerd here....


12 posted on 04/21/2015 11:57:43 PM PDT by Irishguy
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To: Impy

Democraps need props and gadgetry to get their point across.


13 posted on 04/21/2015 11:57:57 PM PDT by 353FMG (muzzies are a national security liability.)
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To: dp0622
Is it a good tank? No one outside those working on it would know that, but it is logical to assume that it is a better tank than the T-90 MBT that is in front-line service with Russia currently. The new tank is considerably heavier than the T-90 (by over ten tons from the last estimate I saw), which means more armor. It has better optics than the T-90, and will feature a new active defense system (the Afganit) that uses doppler radar to identify incoming projectiles, likes missiles, and fires small rockets to hard-kill the incoming missiles.

Thus, overall, a more modern, better armed, better armored and more expensive alternative to the current Russian tanks, and a much better tank than anything Russia has. With the right crew and tactics it would definitely be formidable in the field.

But that only answers one part of your question. The second is if it is better than the Abrams?

Simple answer - no, it is not.

The Abrams is a superlative tank, and not just because the latest version has some of the best armor available, best weapons available, best systems available, but also because the crews and tactics used as simply the best. It is never a one-to-one fight, but rather a battle-space that provides the Abrams crew with highly networked fighting capabilities that include working together with other tanks, as well as other fighting vehicles (e.g. before the M1s get near there is a high likelyhood that aircraft have already given the enemy tanks a heavy butcher's bill), and the information awareness is almost absolute. It is never ever a fair fight, and beating an American tank formation would be currently next to impossible (maybe if it is a full war with a near-peer adversary and tactical nukes are used, but I simply do not see it happening in a limited conventional war).

There are some tanks that claim better armor (e.g. the British Challenger 2), or better technology (the French Leclerc claims a better fire control, and the S.Korean K2 Black Panther clone of the Abrams claims developed soft-kill ability), others have interesting aspects that the M1 doesn't have (e.g. the Israeli Merkava IV also doubles as an armored personnel carrier), and, finally, one plain claims to be a better tank overall (the latest iteration of the German Leopard 2). However, while one-on-one some of these claims MAY be true, the fact is that in a real battlefield with groups of tanks meeting up and things getting hot, none of them would have much chance against a full-on force of US Army M1A2s.

Which says something about the T-14 vs M1 comparison. The M1 wins.

The Motley Fool investment website had an interesting write-up of this new tank. I have attached it below.

Russia's T-14 tank may feature a fatal flaw

14 posted on 04/22/2015 12:00:14 AM PDT by spetznaz (Nuclear-tipped Ballistic Missiles: The Ultimate Phallic Symbol)
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To: sukhoi-30mki

Looks to have the same type of sloped Shaped Charge defeating armored turret as our Abrams MBT.


15 posted on 04/22/2015 12:00:14 AM PDT by Forty-Niner (The barely bare berry bear formerly known as Arctos Horribilis.)
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To: The KG9 Kid

The T-34 was the best Soviet battle tank ever built. It outclassed anything the Germans built.

Russian tanks tend to be overbuilt and they’re robust and reliable.

Looks like this new tank is slated to replace the Soviet-era T-72 when it enters service.

Its the first Russian-built tank since the fall of the Soviet Union.


16 posted on 04/22/2015 12:06:53 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: FredZarguna

Ah, a car for the sheeple.

I was fortunate enough to find it’s eery twin, Chevette, for about 450 hours worth of pay, vintage Carter. One late night in a snowstorm the muffler started flying out of formation. No tools, had to manually remove it the rest of the way, since it was Fred Flintstoning on the roadway. Stored it in the ditch for posterity and roared on. Got quite good at jumpstarting. Oddest incident: hit by a bouncing golf ball hoisted aloft by a man with a bad hook. Seemed like minutes of me peering at the tiny ball bouncing high in the air, thinking, no way is that going to hit me, trying to judge it and either slow down or speed up. I was not that talented. Wham into the windshield. Of course I laid down across the shifter and passenger seat just during the impact, so I didn’t get any glass fragments in my eye, and just rolled into the golf course parking lot. Found Mr. Hook at the tee and got him to pay me for the windshield directly. I think it was a little less than $200. IMHO, should be part of every driving course: how to safely navigate things flying at your vehicle, and how to bubblegum and baling wire your vehicle to make it home. I had forgotten about those events. Certainly the Lord does preserve us before his Holy Spirit converts us to Christ.


17 posted on 04/22/2015 12:08:51 AM PDT by PieterCasparzen (Do we then make void the law through faith? God forbid: yea, we establish the law.)
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To: doorgunner69

Of course not. It has an uninhabited turret for enhanced crew protection.


18 posted on 04/22/2015 12:10:45 AM PDT by Paid_Russian_Troll
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To: sukhoi-30mki

Very interesting


19 posted on 04/22/2015 12:45:20 AM PDT by StoneWall Brigade (And I will send fire on Magog- Ezkiel 39:6)
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To: sukhoi-30mki
For those out there who erroneously think that all Russian military hardware or tanks are "crap", consider history and the facts.

The Russian T-34 changed the tide in World War II against the Germans. It was hard hitting, mobile, effective, accurate, and deadly to the Panzers. The German Panzer Generals said they had "nothing like it." Even the late war King Tiger didn't have many of its aspects.

Meanwhile, we have been gutting our military for 6 years now.

However, the Russians and Chinese have been increasing their military budgets by double digits.

The obese, entitled, lazy, Obama voting American public is in for one hell of a wake up call should real war come.

20 posted on 04/22/2015 2:54:48 AM PDT by SkyPilot ("I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me." John 14:6)
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