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Once you’re Pakistani, there is no going back to India
The Express Tribune ^ | 17 April 2015 | Aalia Suleman

Posted on 04/19/2015 8:05:24 PM PDT by cold start

The non-issuance of visas to India continues to irk thousands of Pakistani Americans as the former remains hell bent to grind an axe with Pakistanis, regardless of borders or their new nationalities.

At the moment, there are an estimated 500,000 Pakistani Americans in the US and the rate of their continually burgeoning numbers makes them the second fastest growing group of Asian immigrants in the US. According to the Pew Research Centre, the entire population of Asian Americans, which includes Pakistanis, is among those in the highest income bracket as well as the best educated in the country. However, despite all the good check marks Pakistanis have in front of their names and despite their coveted blue passports, India continues to trivialise their backgrounds, denying them visit visas to its esteemed land only because they are expats born in Pakistan.

It is absurd for India to assume that no Pakistani would ever want to visit India at some point in their lives. Everyone still has relatives, ancestral homes, ties, backgrounds, and memories of childhood visits to the country even though they themselves were born in Pakistan.

The migration that occurred with the division of the country in 1947 was the greatest mass human migration in the history of mankind. Do the Indian authorities seriously assume that simply on account of being born in Karachi or Lahore, a man’s ties to his entire history could be severed and his whole slate of reverence for the land of his forefathers could be wiped clean?

Even if one removes the emotionality from the picture, the whole situation reeks of brazen, glaring discrimination, not only on the part of India, but also the US authorities by reason of being perpetrated against as US citizens.

Why do these people want to go there?

I am pretty sure it is not with the intent to bomb Mysore or raze the Taj Mahal to the ground. The majority only wishes to visit family, gaze at the homes of which they have heard stories of all their lives, visit the monuments built by the Mughal rulers and reflect, sadly, at the preserved relics in the museums which tell the tale of one of the greatest empires in human history. The fact of the matter is that the soil of India has the roots of the millions of Pakistanis who immigrated to the new country in 1947.

As per the rules on the Indian visa website, the visa processing time for US citizens born in the US is one to three days, whereas the time for people of Pakistani origin, it is six weeks. Even this time requirement is just a scam; visas are not issued at all even after the person has waited for six weeks. According to the US Code Title 42, Chapter 21 of civil rights,

“Discrimination against any person ‘based on age, disability, gender, race, national origin and religion (among other things) in a number of settings—including education, employment, access to businesses and buildings, federal services and more’ is prohibited.”

Yet the Indian consulate carries out this blatant discrimination most unabashedly on US soil against US citizens.

The Indian government’s excuse for taking so long for visa processing, although in reality no visas are issued, is to curtail violence in the country. This excuse is, however, most flimsy and unconvincing. 500,000 US citizens of Pakistani origin cannot be held accountable for a handful of miscreants who also happened to be of Pakistani origin.

Prior to the 2008 Mumbai attacks, which were masterminded by the American citizen of Pakistani origin David Headley, all expatriates with foreign passports were exempted from any such visa issuance rules. These rigid rules only came into effect in 2009 and have yet to see any alleviation.

When the officials at the US State Department were questioned about this grey-area-case-of-discrimination, they said they had “raised concerns with the Indian Embassy in Washington” but were unable to do more since visa requirements were engineered by each country in question. Though one could understand that it takes longer for the Indian consulate to do background checks on expats of one country than of another, could it really take six weeks?

Today, it takes minutes to check a person’s background history so why isn’t the Indian embassy able to judge within at least a couple of weeks if a person can or cannot enter the country?

The fact that everyone is denied the visa despite this background check only reflects stark bigotry against Pakistani Americans enabled by US authorities on US soil – an interesting occurrence in this day and age.

Adding further insult to injury, India requires Pakistani Americans to file their visa applications using their Pakistani passports and not their American ones. Whoever chooses to do so, if they even happen to have their Pakistani passport any longer, will not only have to go through the Pakistani consulate to get these passports renewed if required but will also lose all benefits of travelling as US citizens. Of all the bizarre rules that any country could come up with for keeping the people of a certain birth background at bay, trust the Indian consulate to come up with the most outstanding ones.

The sad irony of the entire matter is that despite all these loony-bin tactics India creates to keep Pakistani Americans off their soil, the Pakistanis’ ties to that land keeps them applying for visas repeatedly. Going through similar frustrations and in response to Washington’s ‘non-committal stand’ on the subject, a Pakistani American even filed a petition in court titled ‘Ask India to End Origin-based Discrimination of Visa applicants’. However, so far, all pleas have been falling on completely deaf US and Indian ears, and Pakistani Americans remain barred from the land of their ancestors. It would be interesting to see how this matter is resolved, if ever.

Maybe there will be a day when I too shall be able to visit Delhi, the great seat of Muslim learning, Ghalib’s hometown, and the grand Mughal capital that ruled Hindustan for nearly 350 years.


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1 posted on 04/19/2015 8:05:24 PM PDT by cold start
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To: cold start
Prior to the 2008 Mumbai attacks, which were masterminded by the American citizen of Pakistani origin David Headley, all expatriates with foreign passports were exempted from any such visa issuance rules. These rigid rules only came into effect in 2009 and have yet to see any alleviation.

Pakistani complaint amounting to "my convenience is more important than your safety."

2 posted on 04/19/2015 8:08:59 PM PDT by Zhang Fei (Let us pray that peace be now restored to the world and that God will preserve it always.)
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To: cold start

Gee, that’s too bad.

Last year, the valedictorian of my kids’ high school - which has hundreds of Chinese students, first-generation offspring of PhDs and MDs - was of Indian descent.


3 posted on 04/19/2015 8:09:45 PM PDT by Steely Tom (Vote GOP for A Slower Handbasket)
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To: cold start

I’m assuming this is from a British source and not an American one. Because I’m certainly not ready to start calling muslims “Asians.”


4 posted on 04/19/2015 8:10:42 PM PDT by miss marmelstein (Richard the Third: "I should like to drive away not only the Turks (moslims) but all my foes.")
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To: cold start
Prior to the 2008 Mumbai attacks, which were masterminded by the American citizen of Pakistani origin David Headley, all expatriates with foreign passports were exempted from any such visa issuance rules. These rigid rules only came into effect in 2009 and have yet to see any alleviation.

So, they tried it this guy's way and ended up with a bunch of dead citizens and tourists.

Can't blame them for not wanting that to happen again.

They learned from their mistake. Wish we would do the same.

5 posted on 04/19/2015 8:12:52 PM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (Proud Infidel, Gun Nut, Religious Fanatic and Freedom Fiend)
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To: cold start

Once you go Pak, you never go back?


6 posted on 04/19/2015 8:21:02 PM PDT by RichInOC (No! BAD Rich! (What'd I say?))
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To: RichInOC
"Once you go Pak, you never go back?"

More like once you go Pak, no one wants you back......

7 posted on 04/19/2015 8:23:38 PM PDT by cold start
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To: cold start

Who can blame them? The issue is moozlum...crazy moozlums who apparently want to murder everyone around them. Yet the current US govt is bringing the crazed moozlums here by the tens of thousands. Go figure.


8 posted on 04/19/2015 8:46:48 PM PDT by ogen hal (First Amendment or reeducation camp)
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To: cold start

The Indians are just trying to keep the Muslim terrorists out.


9 posted on 04/19/2015 8:59:44 PM PDT by <1/1,000,000th%
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To: miss marmelstein

Yeah I never got that one.

I guess it’s like “white hispanic”?


10 posted on 04/19/2015 9:06:49 PM PDT by Crim (Palin / West '16)
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To: miss marmelstein
I’m assuming this is from a British source and not an American one. Because I’m certainly not ready to start calling muslims “Asians.”

The Express Tribune is a Paki paper.

11 posted on 04/20/2015 12:21:10 AM PDT by IndianChief
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To: cold start
I am pretty sure it is not with the intent to bomb Mysore or raze the Taj Mahal to the ground

With Pakis you can only be "pretty sure" that they would want to commit some terrorist acts...

12 posted on 04/20/2015 12:50:34 AM PDT by Cronos (ObamaÂ’s dislike of Assad is not based on AssadÂ’s brutality but that he isn't a jihadi Moslem)
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To: cold start
According to the US Code Title 42, Chapter 21 of civil rights,

“Discrimination against any person ‘based on age, disability, gender, race, national origin and religion (among other things) in a number of settings—including education, employment, access to businesses and buildings, federal services and more’ is prohibited.”

That's the US code. It doesn't apply to another country's right to issue or refuse to issue visas. What a dud argument

13 posted on 04/20/2015 12:51:51 AM PDT by Cronos (ObamaÂ’s dislike of Assad is not based on AssadÂ’s brutality but that he isn't a jihadi Moslem)
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To: cold start
Today, it takes minutes to check a person’s background history so why isn’t the Indian embassy able to judge within at least a couple of weeks if a person can or cannot enter the country?

Well then the Indians should have the following logic:

Pakistani-born or parents Pakistani born? Then reject. else if Moslem then reject else if US criminal background then reject else ok

14 posted on 04/20/2015 12:54:19 AM PDT by Cronos (ObamaÂ’s dislike of Assad is not based on AssadÂ’s brutality but that he isn't a jihadi Moslem)
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To: cold start
to visit Delhi, the great seat of Muslim learning, Ghalib’s hometown, and the grand Mughal capital that ruled Hindustan for nearly 350 years.

So it comes out in the end -- the Moslem is aggrieved that the Moslems don't still rule India....

15 posted on 04/20/2015 12:55:54 AM PDT by Cronos (ObamaÂ’s dislike of Assad is not based on AssadÂ’s brutality but that he isn't a jihadi Moslem)
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To: miss marmelstein

It’s a Paki rag.


16 posted on 04/20/2015 12:56:29 AM PDT by Cronos (ObamaÂ’s dislike of Assad is not based on AssadÂ’s brutality but that he isn't a jihadi Moslem)
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To: Harmless Teddy Bear

If the US and Western Europe had any sense, they would ban Islam as a dangerous philosophy along with nazi beliefs


17 posted on 04/20/2015 12:57:28 AM PDT by Cronos (ObamaÂ’s dislike of Assad is not based on AssadÂ’s brutality but that he isn't a jihadi Moslem)
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To: ogen hal

I don’t. In what country was Osama Bin Laden found and killed? Right on the doorsteps of what some reports have said is considered that country’s West Point.

If they are curious about their roots/relatives they can get a subscription to Ancestry.com


18 posted on 04/20/2015 1:26:27 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: RichInOC

Somebody post the picture of Obama and his Pakistani “friend” on the couch...


19 posted on 04/20/2015 6:07:51 AM PDT by PTBAA
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To: Zhang Fei
Yet the Indian consulate carries out this blatant discrimination most unabashedly on US soil against US citizens.

This line made me think of a 14 year-old girl in Model UN.

20 posted on 04/20/2015 7:25:44 AM PDT by Oratam
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