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In Case You Missed It, Obamacare Just Logged a Major Victory at the Supreme Court
The Motley Fool ^ | April 4, 2015 | Sean Williams

Posted on 04/04/2015 6:45:17 PM PDT by EveningStar

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To: EveningStar; ZULU

“So Roberts is just like those other four justices and always votes with them?”

Apparently so, when it comes to Obamacare.


41 posted on 04/05/2015 1:59:45 PM PDT by Hardens Hollow (Couldn't find Galt's Gulch, so created our own Harden's Hollow to quit paying the fascist beast.)
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To: EDINVA

Moral relevance is the most important kind.


42 posted on 04/05/2015 2:05:25 PM PDT by reasonisfaith ("...because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved." (2 Thessalonians))
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To: Alberta's Child

Bingo. They may take the case in the future and rule on the merits. Or they may not.


43 posted on 04/05/2015 2:10:40 PM PDT by jwalsh07 (E)
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To: Hardens Hollow

[[My husband’s power plant is going bankrupt because they cannot pay their carbon emissions fee. They laid off 25% of the workforce, but still can’t pay it. They will just limp along until it is overdue and then declare bankruptcy.]]

I’m very sorry to hear that- It’s sad that We work hard all our lives, then a president comes along and makes it so expensive to continue that it ruins us and everyone around the nation, STEALING our hard earned money in the name of a ‘problem’ that doesn’t exist, and by making prices skyrocket on everything-

Sadly you are just another victim of this administration- I bet we’d be shocked to learn just how many victims have lost their businesses because of carbon regulations-

Maybe you could write into Fox news and see if someone there would run a story on how oppressive the carbon taxes were on your husband’s power plant- The public need to be made aware of what is already happening thanks to oppressive and unnecessary government regulations


44 posted on 04/05/2015 3:11:47 PM PDT by Bob434
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To: Hardens Hollow

I certainly wouldn’t limp along. I would be calling in the conservative press and Drudge and go at it both barrels. I would talk about fear of admin reprisal through IRS and ask the courts for protection from the administration


45 posted on 04/05/2015 3:30:40 PM PDT by Chickensoup (Leftist totalitarian fascism is on the move.)
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To: Chickensoup

“I certainly wouldn’t limp along. I would be calling in the conservative press and Drudge and go at it both barrels. I would talk about fear of admin reprisal through IRS and ask the courts for protection from the administration”

That’s up to the owners. Since they are an investment firm and have numerous other plants, I’m sure they don’t want to make waves.

This was to be expected - energy prices were going to ‘necessarily skyrocket’, remember? The sheeple won’t care until their electric bills triple.


46 posted on 04/05/2015 4:16:49 PM PDT by Hardens Hollow (Couldn't find Galt's Gulch, so created our own Harden's Hollow to quit paying the fascist beast.)
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To: Bob434

I think I stated it wrong - he doesn’t own the plant, just works at it. We’d be worth 10s of millions if he owned a power plant (other than the bankruptcy thing).

It’s actually worked out well for us. It was the prompting we needed to Go Galt, as we’ve been contemplating for years. He offered to be laid off, to save one of the others’ jobs - but was turned down since he’s the compliance manager and none of those being let go could do the job. (He deals with the idiocy of Big Government first hand - hence his willingness to quit)

We will be keeping our taxable at $20K so with personal exemptions and the standard deduction, we will pay nothing. We’ll open a couple of small businesses and put every other than $20K into a 401K, to avoid taxes, but also to add to our savings, which we will be dipping into to live. $20K just won’t be enough, even with living a simple country existence.

Thanks for your well-wishes but it will be great (I hope) and we’ll be ready for the tide to turn. I wish everyone here could do the same - feeding the beast just encourages it.


47 posted on 04/05/2015 4:39:35 PM PDT by Hardens Hollow (Couldn't find Galt's Gulch, so created our own Harden's Hollow to quit paying the fascist beast.)
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To: EveningStar

Oh my goodness are you that insane?


48 posted on 04/05/2015 4:44:55 PM PDT by Nifster
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To: EveningStar

On the off hand that your head was buried in the sand and you missed it at the time try this on for size

http://www.forbes.com/sites/theapothecary/2012/07/01/the-supreme-courts-john-roberts-changed-his-obamacare-vote-in-may/


49 posted on 04/05/2015 4:49:46 PM PDT by Nifster
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To: Hardens Hollow

Make waves.

And how we burned in the camps later, thinking: What would things have been like if every Security operative, when he went out at night to make an arrest, had been uncertain whether he would return alive and had to say good-bye to his family? Or if, during periods of mass arrests, as for example in Leningrad, when they arrested a quarter of the entire city, people had not simply sat there in their lairs, paling with terror at every bang of the downstairs door and at every step on the staircase, but had understood they had nothing left to lose and had boldly set up in the downstairs hall an ambush of half a dozen people with axes, hammers, pokers, or whatever else was at hand? The Organs would very quickly have suffered a shortage of officers and transport and, notwithstanding all of Stalin’s thirst, the cursed machine would have ground to a halt!
Solzhenitsyn

“How is that people who have been crushed by the sheer weight of slavery and cast to the bottom of the pit can nevertheless find the strength to rise up and free themselves, first in spirit and then in body; while those who soar unhampered over the peaks of freedom suddenly lose the taste for freedom, lose the will to defend it, and, hopelessly confused and lost, almost begin to crave slavery”. Alexander Solzhenitsyn.


50 posted on 04/05/2015 5:19:33 PM PDT by Chickensoup (Leftist totalitarian fascism is on the move.)
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To: EveningStar

Not always, but very often.


51 posted on 04/05/2015 5:32:37 PM PDT by ZULU (Je Suis Charlie. . GET IT OBAMA, OR DON'T YOU??)
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To: EveningStar

I don’t give a tinker’s dman if it was unilateral or not. He voted with a coalition of left wing freaks on this and too many other issues. He’s turning into a Chief Justice Warren 2.


52 posted on 04/05/2015 5:36:41 PM PDT by ZULU (Je Suis Charlie. . GET IT OBAMA, OR DON'T YOU??)
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To: Chickensoup

you can go ahead.

this is not our hill to die on.

as I said in a post to a less controlling poster, this has given us the freedom to go Galt (as in my tagline).

if you are still feeding the beast - paying taxes - you are part of the problem. We are the solution.


53 posted on 04/05/2015 5:46:28 PM PDT by Hardens Hollow (Couldn't find Galt's Gulch, so created our own Harden's Hollow to quit paying the fascist beast.)
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To: Hardens Hollow

(He deals with the idiocy of Big Government first hand - hence his willingness to quit)

Lol- that made me chuckle, who wouldn’t jump at a chance to quit after having to deal with government lol?

[[which we will be dipping into to live. $20K just won’t be enough, even with living a simple country existence.]]

Yep- it used to be enough, before everything went sky high- now there’s probably lots of people in same boat- they had enough for retirement IF prices didn’t soar- then along comes bammy and in 6 short years, all of a sudden the funds aren’t enough- We’re facing that very situation and like you we live very simply- but will probably be forced to cut back more and m ore till we eventually have to get rid of internet, perhaps tv etc just to make ends meet- It’s like we’re being pushed back into the stone ages by the left- I guess they didn’t like other people doing well

Growing up and saving, we thought everything was going to be ok- living in the most prosperous nation on earth, nothing to worry about- it’s just sad to see that we’ve entered into the ‘information and technology age’ but now, thanks to soaring prices, we won’t be able to continue affording it- Yippie- We’ve made such progress!


54 posted on 04/05/2015 8:19:24 PM PDT by Bob434
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To: Alberta's Child
One of the basic principles of law is that you don't have any standing to file a lawsuit unless one of the following two conditions is met: (1) you are suffering some kind of loss or harm (and this means actual loss or harm now, not potential loss or harm sometime in the future; and/or (2) you are facing some kind of harm or loss that cannot be remedied through financial recompense (if you are in danger of bodily harm or death, for example).

Question: When did Standing become a legal doctrine?
(Much later than a lot of people realize.)

55 posted on 04/05/2015 10:08:18 PM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: EveningStar

bookmark


56 posted on 04/05/2015 11:02:11 PM PDT by Steve0113
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To: Bob434

“Yep- it used to be enough, before everything went sky high- now there’s probably lots of people in same boat- they had enough for retirement IF prices didn’t soar- then along comes bammy and in 6 short years, all of a sudden the funds aren’t enough- We’re facing that very situation and like you we live very simply- but will probably be forced to cut back more and m ore till we eventually have to get rid of internet, perhaps tv etc just to make ends meet- It’s like we’re being pushed back into the stone ages by the left- I guess they didn’t like other people doing well”

And the government pretends like there’s no inflation, so the cost of living index is pitifully low. We just have to sit by and watch our purchasing power decline.

I’ve been watching the Forbes retirement survey for the last several years. Each year, less and less people think they’ll be able to retire. More think they’ll have to continue to work, even after getting on Social Security. Sad thing is - many older folks get physical problems so that they would have to limit the work they can do, so planning on continuing to work can be risky.


57 posted on 04/06/2015 5:27:42 AM PDT by Hardens Hollow (Couldn't find Galt's Gulch, so created our own Harden's Hollow to quit paying the fascist beast.)
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To: Hardens Hollow

[[And the government pretends like there’s no inflation, so the cost of living index is pitifully low. We just have to sit by and watch our purchasing power decline.]]

Exactly- The fat cats who decided there was no cost of living increase gave themselves healthy cost of living increases to the tune of 10’s of 1000’s of dollars in some cases, yet denied seniors and veterans and disabled people cost of living increases DESPITE the FACT that many of them have to get by on as little as $700 a month-


58 posted on 04/06/2015 9:20:59 AM PDT by Bob434
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To: Chickensoup

Great Quote!


59 posted on 04/06/2015 7:34:19 PM PDT by citizen352 (I have done no harm. But I remember now. l am in this earthly world...)
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To: EveningStar; Lurking Libertarian; Perdogg; JDW11235; Clairity; Spacetrucker; Art in Idaho; ...

FReepmail me to subscribe to or unsubscribe from the SCOTUS ping list.

60 posted on 04/08/2015 8:20:20 AM PDT by BuckeyeTexan (There are those that break and bend. I'm the other kind. ~Steve Earle)
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