Posted on 04/01/2015 7:52:00 AM PDT by Lady4Liberty
The owners of a small pizzeria in Indiana were seemingly the first business to say they would publicly deny service to LGBT couples in the wake of Indiana’s new and controversial Religious Freedom Law.
Shortly after Memories Pizza owners agreed in a local newscast that the Religious Freedom Restoration Act allows them to deny service to LGBT people who wanted their pizza at a same-sex wedding, 1-star Yelp reviews rolled in denouncing the business.
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right. they will say if you are tax exempt you must conform to the left’s idealogy. real churches will end up paying taxes. the state will subsidize false churches
And that’s why the issues have come up regarding merchandise with relevant expressive content, such as custom decorated cakes, flower arrangements, and event photography.
Far fewer will object to selling blank cakes and decorating equipment, bulk flowers, and cameras, than will object to being intimately involved. If the responsibility for what to express about the event is yours, then it is not mine. But if you want to make it mine, I have to say no.
Are they serious? Or are they secret supports of LBGT issues and trying to stir up a story?
That might be less evil than the enslavement of the artistic trade.
If this were about the Church this law would look like the one in Pennsylvania, it doesn’t so I conclude it is about an entirely different god. If protection gets thrown out it will most likely happen because these people have chosen to link commerce with religion.
My feeling is that this is a plot by atheist libertarians to destroy religion and tbey are trying to enlist the aid of the very people tbey are trying to destroy.
Does Indiana have an equality provision in it’s Constitution or an equality law, such laws based on PC interpretations of the 14th Amendment’s Equal Protections Clause? If so, I wouldn’t be surprised if these business owners are unaware of their 14th Amendment protections and consequently vulnerable to the whims of pro-gay activist judges regardless of the state’s religious freedom law.
Also, Christian business owners need to consider if their “No Gays” signs are possibly a stumbling block to people struggling with same-sex temptation, but who are nonetheless seeking the truth in Jesus.
In fact, 1 Corinthians 6:9-11 indicates that some members of that church had been struggling with same-sex desires but had evidently repented and accepted God’s grace to turn their lives around.
“1-star Yelp reviews rolled in denouncing the business.”
Well, according to the terms of Yelp, those reviews are fraudulent and should be removed if the business owner requests it. We’ll see if Yelp abides by that though.
Yep. There's no media spin there...
By leveraging on two things:
1) The Constitution’s protection of minorities from the tyranny of the majority
2) By leveraging on the Civil Rights Act.
They are also using Alinsky's rules to the hilt:
* RULE 1: “Power is not only what you have, but what the enemy thinks you have.”
* RULE 8: “Keep the pressure on. Never let up.”
* RULE 9: “The threat is usually more terrifying than the thing itself.”
* RULE 12: Pick the target, freeze it, personalize it, and polarize it.”
It's a small town. If the caller ID shows out of town, they will ask for a credit card number at ordering time.
Religious, political, moral, association. Any apply. An Atheist restaurant owner should be able to refuse to host a Catholic event if it is against his moral principles. That is the genius of the 1st amendment. Individuals are allowed to choose based on their own sensibilities and moral code, with the government preserving that autonomy regarding how you live your life.
If they ask you to host an event, even for only two people, you can refuse to support it.
I admit I don’t see the difference and it strikes me as a pretty hypocritical. But still I agree that they should have the right to stand by their religious beliefs.
In instance one, they are there to eat. you are not sponsoring or hosting anything. You are supplying human beings with food for a price and you don’t care what they believe or talk about at their table.
In instance one, you are hosting an event that has as its purpose something you are morally or some other way against. You should have a right to refuse to allow your facilities to be used for it.
In the course of this past week watching the deviants protesting the law in Indiana I’ve come a few conclusions:
1. The deviants are no longer satisfied to be tolerated. Now they demand approval.
2. The deviants are become the oppressors they used to denounce.
3. I now understand why every society that wants to endure periodically purges these people as they are inherently destructive of all of the good and decent things that make for a successful society. These people can no more coexist with decent people than radical Muslims can peacefully coexist with Jews or anyone else.
It could fail, and at best it is a band-aid. The story has not had a chance to play out thoroughly yet.
That said, you really can't fight City Hall and faux moral outrage. They live for an argument, and I, for one, don't want to try to win a poo-flinging contest.
What to do?
1) Provide such service.
2) Wear gloves, and if you drop something, don't pick it up.
3) Publicly donate proceeds from such events to organizations the group would find toxic. Repub party, gay to straight therapy, traditional marriage advocacy groups, etc.
If you do not enjoy poo-flinging contests, you will lose...ask yourself first, save the grief.
Even though I am convinced the atheists are wrong, I’d still far rather have this than to have all personal commerce be forced into one size fits all.
We were warned about this back when the enforced nondiscrimination was, modulo some mild grumbling, pretty much noncontroversial. That a principle of freedom was going to get compromised. Now, the spark has reached the end of the fuse.
Oh lawdy, and I suppose we are all supposed to spend a ton of time figuring out who we are and aren’t allowed to buy from and under what circumstances? Are you under the impression that trying to operate a business isn’t complicated enough without spending all your time trading proctalogical exams with every vendor and individual you might potentially deal with?!
The LGBTs, or BLTs as I call them, have found a big stick to use on Christians and they are loving it. They plan one of their sham marriages and find out who will be the most offended by it and force them to go against their faith.
I went there and read the comments.
...service above and beyond, I must say...my compliments...
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