The Battle for The Middle East's Future

The Independent /UK | today | self

[thesligoduffyflynns]

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/the-battle-for-the-middle-easts-future-begins-in-yemen-as-saudi-arabia-jumps-into-the-abyss-10140145.html

[thesligoduffyflynns]

Obamas foreign policy has come to this-and it seems to me we are on the cusp on something far greater that is a threat to the US and these decisions made by the State Dept and Obama himself endanger the safety & security of NOT only the United States but the world as we know it.

Do these decisions want to create more war & total annihilation of life as we know it?

There is a megalomaniac on the loose and on the run in Florida playing golf this weekend.

Someone needs to reign in the golf clown

[thesligoduffyflynns]

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/the-battle-for-the-middle-easts-future-begins-in-yemen-as-saudi-arabia-jumps-into-the-abyss-10140145.html

[justa-hairyape]

He makes a lot of incorrect assumptions here. Fisk claims the Saud’s attacked because of the Iranian negotiations ? Nope. They were asked to attack by the Yemen President. Saud’s are not really that concerned with Iranian nukes. They already have nukes in Pakistan and can shove them up the Person buts anytime they want. The Israelis are the ones most concerned.

[justa-hairyape]

That should read Persian buts...

[Billthedrill]

Haven't heard from Fisk in awhile. Haven't missed him, either. This article, however, is very much in character, spraying blame everywhere but in the direction of the actual perpetrators. The Shi'ite surge, a product of the American/British intervention in '03? Funny, but I recall that when the Brits and the Yanks departed the country it was stable, under the control of an elected government, and for the area relatively violence-free. You can blame a lot of people (including certain Americans named 0bama) for the current mess but not the intervention in '03.

That is certainly not to exonerate the current U.S. administration, far from it. The current mess developed in great measure from the stunning ham-handedness of the amateurs and political hacks in whose keeping 0bama placed the management of Middle East policy. No one appears to have any idea whose side we're on at the moment because we - or more accurately, our employees in the State Department and the Executive - don't know. That's a real problem, and sacking the whole sorry log is only a first step at recovery.

[Billthedrill]

“log” = “lot”. I blame my proofreader.

[FredZarguna]

That should read Persian buts..

That should read Persian butts…

[thesligoduffyflynns]

The Saudis & the iranians have always had an internal somewhat domestic war over oil ever since Mossadegh nationalized oil production in Iran and promptly
asassinated & please don’t make me re-iterate
anything you can find about this subject as
you have the internet.

Why? Because he who has the gold makes the rules.

It is well known when oil production is up & has been for
many years in SA , Iran starves-from their oil import(s).

Yemen has no oil infrastructure nor is their economy based on oil.

SA SHOULD be concerned with this deal that has been put forward by the Obama admin if as publicized in the news that now “we” have given the Iranians to develop.

You mention Pakistan, and SA having nukes there-perhaps you might want to post link to your statement?

What you fail to realize is Obama and company FREAKIN’SOLD OUT THE US and Israel to make their dirty deal by handing over Israeli state secrets and the US , too .

I wonder what Obama’s cut was did he get his number?
Did he get the money that he stated in the press a while ago that it was his number & he could
be bought for 100 million dollars?

‘fekkin’ slime

I spit on this presidency

[justa-hairyape]

Yemen does export oil. Mostly to China. Not a lot, but some. It is well known the Saudi’s bankrolled the Pakistani nuclear development. You think they did that to be nice ? You think they just helped out their Pakistani friends ? Why would Pakistan now back the Saud’s and risk getting their neighbor Iran upset ? The President of Yemen asked for help and he got it. If the Saud’s were upset about the nuke deal with Iran, they could have stopped it cold. Just state they will acquire nukes the day the deal is signed, but they know the deal itself is a worthless piece of paper.

[justa-hairyape]

Obviously I am not a but man. Thanks for the correction.

[thesligoduffyflynns]

Yemen is NOT a major exporter of oil. It’s kinda’ like what those hippies in Colorado call “homegrown”.

And if the Saudis bankrolled the Pakis who bankrolled the Saudis in technology?- it was the US- as it’s said one hand washes another & we are seeing it.

As far as the Prez of Yemen he hopped on boat & got out of his country and is no longer in residence.

PRESIDENT OBAMA IS DIRECTLY RESPONSIBLE FOR THE DE-STABILIZATION OF THE MIDDLE EAST

I’m not shouting at you but this needs to be said.

[Netz]

Obama & Co. have put us all (especially the Israelis) in the most dangerous position since October of 1962. It boggles the mind how foolish, infantile and erratic this POTUS is. Shame on the American voter who put this Trojan Horse-Manchurian-Candidate, Muslim Brotherhood appeaser into power. We will all pay...

[thesligoduffyflynns]

October 1962? please explain your timeline I would appreciate more input as many others would here on FR

[justa-hairyape]

Yes. Obama is responsable, but do not forget Hillary was the architect of the failed smart power diplomacy that was used to topple a dozen or more government leaders. And there was just one main obstical that was sure to stop the Saud’s from just acquiring the nukes they funded, direct from Pakistan. It would hurt their relationship with the US. Well Obama just removed that obstical. Saudi Arabia, Pakistan and even Israel view the US now as an enemy. All cards are off the table and the new deck is being shuffled. We now are hated by three more nuclear powers. Israel, Pakistan and the soon to be nuclear Saud’s. Our leaders are retarded crooks and they are gonna get millions of us killed.

[thesligoduffyflynns]

ditzy

[thesligoduffyflynns]

What do you NOT get?

For you to tell me that O is responsible but do not forget Hilary is like O telling anyone that GWB is / was the architect or responsible party for all our woes.

You have a very weak premise here & I’m no Republican nor
libertarian rand paul person

You are so mis-informed about foreign politics it’s not funny

NOTE TO YOU: “obstical” is incorrect spelling

the correct is “ obstacle”

[Netz]

Well, October 1962 is known as the “14 days” of the Cuban Missile Crisis between CCCP and the USA over land-based OFFENSIVE ICBMs and SRBMs on Cuban soil, pointing at the USA. You know, JFK vs. Kruschev?? The closest we ever came to Nuclear Brinkmanship?

We are approaching a very bad scenario once again

[SaraJohnson]

Someone needs to reign in the golf clown

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It’s a little too late for that. The damage has been done. He turned the Middle East up-side-down and unleashed all the dogs of hell.

[thesligoduffyflynns]

Yes you are re-iterating what happened almost 45 yrs ago & you have it in mind this scenario is still playing out in current politics as manifested in your posting.

There’s a hella’ lot going on right now coming from
the Whut that is not based on the politics of the
Kennedy admin because times have changed.

Your statement “We are approaching a very bad scenario once again”, is not “once again” and it is now-& happening right before your very own eyes.

And this is all due to that F*ck er in the Whut. The puppet,
the muslim, the “community organizer”, the golf clown,the closet bi-sexual, the liar, ......
the person who has been put into office to tear down and
dis-assemble the United States of America;all backed by big money,(Soros) the biggest damn liars in this country,e.g., Pelousy , et al.

You tell me how this whole Iran deal came down & the “US caved”. You can’t because there is a megalomaniac flaming a**hole in the hut who thinks he can run the freakin’ world.

If Iran takes this deal we are DONE, TOAST.

thanks for reading my post & see ya’ on the flip side.

[Jumper]

Do not forget that the Chinese were the one’s who profited from this; that the Paki’s were the Sino counterbalance to the Soviet/Russian India thus it was much more than SA financing anything beyond the transfer of technology from China to her ally and proxy Pakistani, and Saudi monies only made it less painful for China to finance or sell weapons.