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Obama was working for disarmament in the face of the Soviet Union back in the 1980s.
1 posted on 03/21/2015 10:56:01 PM PDT by TigerClaws
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They have no idea what true communism was, and if they did they are liars if they say it wasn’t true.


2 posted on 03/21/2015 10:58:00 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: TigerClaws

Nailed it.


3 posted on 03/21/2015 11:01:26 PM PDT by Crim (Palin / West '16)
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Good point.


4 posted on 03/21/2015 11:05:01 PM PDT by Ray76 (Obama says, "Unlike my mum, Ruth has all the documents needed to prove who Mark's father was.")
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“Now I will tell you the answer to my question. It is this. The Party seeks power entirely for its own sake. We are not interested in the good of others; we are interested solely in power, pure power. What pure power means you will understand presently. We are different from the oligarchies of the past in that we know what we are doing. All the others, even those who resembled ourselves, were cowards and hypocrites. The German Nazis and the Russian Communists came very close to us in their methods, but they never had the courage to recognize their own motives. They pretended, perhaps they even believed, that they had seized power unwillingly and for a limited time, and that just around the corner there lay a paradise where human beings would be free and equal. We are not like that. We know what no one ever seizes power with the intention of relinquishing it. Power is not a means; it is an end. One does not establish a dictatorship in order to safeguard a revolution; one makes the revolution in order to establish the dictatorship. The object of persecution is persecution. The object of torture is torture. The object of power is power. Now you begin to understand me.”

George Orwell
1984


5 posted on 03/21/2015 11:06:16 PM PDT by bad company
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To: TigerClaws

Excellent comparison.

You’re right, it’s the same tactic.


6 posted on 03/21/2015 11:31:14 PM PDT by Talisker (One who commands, must obey.)
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To: TigerClaws

Good comparison. I think you’re right.


7 posted on 03/22/2015 12:07:51 AM PDT by KitJ (Shall not be infringed)
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Well it is true per Communist theory.. its a bat shit crazy idea.. you have to start with a socialist dictatorship but then you progress to communism..........

You achieve Communism when the state wither away and dies..

It is to become stateless anarchy that all the people use every thing in common...

Think of the animal kingdom... there is no state.. there is no government ...there is no property..there is no law.they all just live together in common...as in the animal kingdom

But they think it'll be some kind of Edan and everybody just lives in peace with each other...

Do you can see why Lenin called the true believers useful idiots...

8 posted on 03/22/2015 1:37:47 AM PDT by tophat9000 (An Eye for an Eye, a Word for a Word...nothing more)
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It’s the old “No True Scotsman” Fallacy.


11 posted on 03/22/2015 2:31:08 AM PDT by Slings and Arrows ("Dressed In Blue" - http://youtu.be/iAtvVsXvWCo)
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In his satiric novel Moscow 2042 Vladamir Voinovich wrote that true communism would have been achieved when "primary matter" (food) equals "secondary matter" (feces).
13 posted on 03/22/2015 6:58:04 AM PDT by The Great RJ (Pants up...Don't loot!)
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I agree that the various communist regimes were not “True Communism” and that ISIS, Iran, Sudan, Saudi Arabia, etc. do not embody “True Islam”.

Abstract social conceptions dreamed up in the minds of men can never be converted into “true” physical manifestations of the ideal. Those who pretend otherwise are either self-deluded fools, or cynical tricksters. The most dangerous types, such as Lenin and Trotsky, are both. (Obama is the JV version. Be thankful for his narcissism and laziness). They inevitably seek political power to force their delusions onto others.


14 posted on 03/22/2015 7:17:31 AM PDT by Chewbarkah
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One can never have true communism as that idiot marx never accounted for the corrupt nature of man when handed the near unlimited power needed to implement “glorious revolution”. Only one group of people thought of separating the power into distinct branches and using a document to place limits on those branches. But even that will break down. Just not as fast.

Islam has the same problem as communism but it also has a document of sharia that enables horrific abuse of others in the quest for power. The document is the unamendable koran.


15 posted on 03/22/2015 9:30:36 AM PDT by GraceG (Protect the Border from Illegal Aliens, Don't Protect Illegal Alien Boarders...)
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