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Stephen Cohen: There Is a Real Chance of War With Russia
The Nation ^ | March 12, 2015

Posted on 03/15/2015 11:38:09 PM PDT by nickcarraway

Will diplomacy prevail in Ukraine? The Nation’s Stephen Cohen joined The John Batchelor Show on Tuesday to discuss the feasibility of the Minsk II agreement and the increased war footing among NATO officials and policymakers in Washington.

Cohen argued that the “rhetorical war” on Minsk II is based on “political ideological imaginations,” because there is no “hard intelligence to back up the claims that there’s been this massive Russian invasion.” If Minsk II fails and fighting escalates, the United States and NATO face “a real chance of war with Russia,” Cohen said.


TOPICS: Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Russia
KEYWORDS: cohen; minsk2; minskii; russia; stephencohen; thenation; ukraine
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1 posted on 03/15/2015 11:38:09 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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How about we just have a cage-match with BamBam and Putin?
Oh wait....
2 posted on 03/15/2015 11:43:39 PM PDT by Veggie Todd (The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants. TJ)
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To: nickcarraway

What?

A liberal Kremlinologist makes this prediction?

No one is going to volunteer to die over Crimea or eastern Ukraine.

And Obama hasn’t shown repeatedly he isn’t up for that famous 3:00 AM phone call.


3 posted on 03/15/2015 11:45:07 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: nickcarraway

Utterly insane.


4 posted on 03/15/2015 11:54:43 PM PDT by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office.)
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To: nickcarraway

Reading articles from Cohen and that trash the Nation? Cohen is a far leftist and a notorious Russian apologist. He probably receives his propaganda straight from an FSB agent who used to provide him his LSD in the 60s.


5 posted on 03/15/2015 11:59:17 PM PDT by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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Don’t worry! Obama has started secret negotiations and has let Putin know that he is ready to give them back Alaska to preserve the peace. /sarc


6 posted on 03/16/2015 12:03:31 AM PDT by fireman15 (Check your facts before making ignorant statements.)
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To: Veggie Todd

http://johnbatchelorshow.com/podcasts/tues-31015-hr-2-jbs-stephen-f-cohen-nyu-princeton-professor-emeritus-author-soviet-fates


7 posted on 03/16/2015 12:10:55 AM PDT by cynwoody
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...”Utterly insane”...

Just listened to video today on what ‘we’ didn’t know of the Cuban Missile crisis ... and un-knows at the time....Kennedy did not know the Soviets had Nuclear tipped Missiles, nor that Krushev had given his Commander the authority to fire them if the US began an invasion...without his authority.

It was more frightening then so many realize in just how close we came to nuclear war....by minutes, not hours. And how difficult communications, or lack of, were at that time.

In the end both men mentioned the word “Insane”...I’ll quote here....

“Insane that two men sitting on opposite sides of the world could bring an end to civilization”...”Insane not to have been afraid”.


8 posted on 03/16/2015 12:15:04 AM PDT by caww
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..."How about we just have a cage-match with BamBam and Putin?"...

Rather let Poroshenko and Putin go at it and leave out all the middlemen!


9 posted on 03/16/2015 12:28:49 AM PDT by caww
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To: goldstategop
Bo is never in the room like the coward that he is

He sits back and manipulates the players


10 posted on 03/16/2015 12:44:36 AM PDT by caww
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“Rather let Poroshenko and Putin go at it and leave out all the middlemen!”

Then just bribe George Soros.


11 posted on 03/16/2015 1:04:50 AM PDT by Fai Mao (Genius at Large)
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To: nickcarraway
Nato’s secretary general has warned that increasing numbers of Russian wargames, with no prior warning, combined with the withering of regular military communications channels between the alliance and Moscow, raises the danger of misunderstandings between the two sides escalating rapidly.
12 posted on 03/16/2015 1:08:08 AM PDT by Berlin_Freeper (Germany - The Travel Destination)
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How do you bribe a man who is worth $30 billion? Give him his own country? Oh, wait, he already controls one, a really big one-3,531,905.43 square miles-run by puppets and stooges on the take at 38°53’N 77°01’W.


13 posted on 03/16/2015 1:25:25 AM PDT by concernedcitizen76 (Natural rights of life, liberty, and property are non-negotiable.)
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To: goldstategop
no one is going to volunteer to die over Crimea or eastern Ukraine

Ukranian conscripts have been unwilling to fight Kiev's war. But Russia has been willing to fight to keep Crimea and protect the rights of Russian ethnics. And the people of eastern Ukraine have been willing to fight the coup government in Kiev.

The message should be clear by now. Partition the mess that has coup leaders and their financers in Kiev provoking WW3. Do the partition among countries according to the ethnicity of the region.

We broke it (Ukraine) and it can't be put back together again.

JMHO

14 posted on 03/16/2015 2:43:05 AM PDT by grania
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Oh, wait, he already controls one, a really big one-3,531,905.43 square miles-run by puppets and stooges on the take at 38°53’N 77°01’W.

Laughably imprecise.

Try 38.8973566,-77.0373764

15 posted on 03/16/2015 2:56:55 AM PDT by cynwoody
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To: grania

The U.S. broke the Ukraine?


16 posted on 03/16/2015 2:58:14 AM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: grania

thats a tricky one because it sets a precedent..

the other old soviet republics are also in a similar situation

Estonia has 20 or so percent russian nationals to name just one.

i am guessing Latvia, Lithuania, Poland (might be lower there) will be in a similar situation and thats to name just a few. also what happens when the russians in the western part of Ukraine start to congregate on the new border to create a majority, do you extend the russian border again? what about all the non-russian natives in russia, do they get a chance to do the same (im guessing no). its a mess


17 posted on 03/16/2015 2:58:42 AM PDT by Irishguy
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War with Russia? Not to worry. Obama will succeed where the likes of Napoleon and Hitler failed. [/s]


18 posted on 03/16/2015 3:20:06 AM PDT by rbg81
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To: Fai Mao

Churchill, Oct 1, 1939. “I cannot forecast to you the action of Russia. It is a riddle wrapped in a mystery inside an enigma”


19 posted on 03/16/2015 3:26:15 AM PDT by caww
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To: grania

Yep...


20 posted on 03/16/2015 3:27:24 AM PDT by caww
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