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[Conan O’Brien has] A Good Time in Cuba
NRO - The Corner ^ | March 6, 2015 | Jay Nordlinger

Posted on 03/07/2015 2:53:55 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife

Conan O’Brien posed in front of a mural and tweeted the following: “This iconic Che Guevara image was born right here in Havana.” Isn’t that cool?

Does O’Brien know that Guevara set up the Cuban gulag, into which artists, liberals, gays, and others were tossed? Does he care?

I’m sure he does, or would — he seems like a good guy. (For a piece I once did on Guevara and his cult — “Che Chic” — go here.)

At the invitation of the Castros’ Ministry of Culture, O’Brien went to Havana to film his comedy show. He is evidently proud of his trip. “This is a very historic time,” he said. “Relations between Cuba and the United States are finally starting to thaw.”

If they are starting to “thaw,” that’s in part because the U.S. president has chosen to turn a blind eye to the dictatorship’s ongoing human-rights abuses. That does not mean the rest of us have to.

In February — February alone (a short month) — there were 492 political arrests in Cuba. Documented arrests, that is. There were undoubtedly many others as well, not documented.

Over the decades, many Cubans have been arrested on the charge of “pre-criminal social dangerousness.” What’s that, you say? The charge means that you have not done anything to offend the dictatorship — yet. But you have a dissident cousin, let’s say, or someone reported you reading the wrong book. Or talking to someone who read a wrong book. Therefore, you are arrested — just so the regime can be on the safe side.

Many Cubans and Cuban Americans are upset by visits such as Conan O’Brien’s to the island. Why? Why does it matter so much to them? What’s wrong with traveling to Cuba, grooving to the music, drinking a few mojitos, and having a good time?

Visitors — especially celebrity ones — rarely show any moral sense. They give no indication whatsoever that they understand where they are: in a one-party dictatorship with a gulag. A country where the innocent are routinely imprisoned, tortured, and murdered.

Cuba has some of the greatest, bravest, most heroic people in the world. Some of them, it is too late to meet. Orlando Zapata and Oswaldo Payá. They were victims of the regime.

But some, you can meet, if you are willing. I myself have interviewed the great Oscar Biscet and Juan Carlos González Leiva (here and here). And if I can — how about the TV star Conan O’Brien?

But the Ministry of Culture wouldn’t like it very much.

No one like O’Brien would have gone to film a show in apartheid South Africa. There was great pressure on entertainers not to perform in South Africa. And on athletes not to compete there. Anyone who did was stigmatized.

But most people, I gather, think that O’Brien’s trip to Cuba was really cool.

These visitors are like Sergeant Schultz from Hogan’s Heroes: “I see nothing” — beyond the pretty girls, the classic old cars, the swaying palm trees, etc.

Senator Claire McCaskill, a Democrat from Missouri, was just in Cuba. She met with no dissidents, of course. While she was there, more than 100 were arrested, for such crimes as trying to attend church. The American said nothing.

She did, however, post pictures of old cars to the Internet. Isn’t that cute?

There have long been political pilgrims to totalitarian countries. Paul Hollander has devoted a good part of his career to chronicling them. There have been plain old ignoramuses, too.

As he crossed from Poland into the Soviet Union, George Bernard Shaw threw his food tins out the train window, because there would be no need of them in the land of milk and honey.

He denied that there was famine in the Soviet Union, because there was plenty of food in his hotel — the Moscow Metropol, which was for foreigners only. They have that kind of hotel in Cuba, too.

John Kenneth Galbraith went to Communist China during the Cultural Revolution, when millions were being starved, tortured, humiliated, and killed. He came back with a criticism: The Chinese smoked too many cigarettes.

In my observation, most Cubans and Cuban Americans bear no great grudge against visitors — as long as they show some moral awareness. As long as they have a smidgeon of conscience.

Conan O’Brien was able to flit down there and then flit back home. Does he realize what happens to ordinary Cubans if they try to leave the island? Does he realize that they have been shot and killed in the water, as they desperately try to escape?

I sometimes wish that people in free countries could be sentenced to live in unfree ones — just for a while — in order to appreciate what other people have to endure, and what they themselves have to be grateful for.

Let me end with a movie recommendation (damn rare for me!): Una Noche, made in 2012. It is a glimpse of Cuban reality. And therefore something of a miracle.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Cuba; Editorial; Foreign Affairs; Government
KEYWORDS: barackobama; cheguevara; chesucks; communism; communismkills; cuba; hollywoodreds; socialistnetworking
Needless to say, there were comments to Nordlinger's piece. ********* [and of course the picture of Conan O'Brien dancing in the streets of Havana is a must see]
1 posted on 03/07/2015 2:53:56 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Bump


2 posted on 03/07/2015 3:07:53 AM PST by lowbridge
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Tell Obama that Cuba does not recognize same sex marriages (and that AIDS victims are imprisoned) and he may still change his mind on being friendly towards the Cuban dictatorship.


3 posted on 03/07/2015 3:23:43 AM PST by a fool in paradise (Shickl-Gruber's Big Lie gave us Hussein's Un-Affordable Care act (HUAC).)
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To: a fool in paradise

I think he is doing it because of displaced and next generation Cubans in the US.

Improved relations (at what international political cost is still to be seen) with Cuba will allow normalization of the displaced Cubans with relatives, etc. and allow them to travel, etc. These are VOTES for Democrats.

I believe what drives most anything this man does is an effort to increase the market share of citizens (and now newly minted citizens from illegals) who vote Democrat. A more Democrat profile in Florida would be a good thing in his mind.


4 posted on 03/07/2015 3:29:07 AM PST by Gaffer
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To: Gaffer

Next generation Cubans in America may not give a damn but their parents and grandparents are still bitter about the Communists stealing their property.

Same thing should happen as happened to the NAZI seized properties.

The funny thing is, there hasn’t been a global boycott/blacklist/embargo against Cuba. The West has supported the island through tourism and Cuban commercial exports.

Tell those investors that the ACTUAL owners will be litigating for their “fair share” and Cuba doesn’t seem like such a hot ticket.


5 posted on 03/07/2015 3:56:41 AM PST by a fool in paradise (Shickl-Gruber's Big Lie gave us Hussein's Un-Affordable Care act (HUAC).)
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To: a fool in paradise

I’d expect that as part of Obama’s plan, Cuban exiles would be compensated to shut them up and get them on board. Obama can promise the world to them, it’s just more fake money the Fed has to print up.


6 posted on 03/07/2015 3:59:59 AM PST by Gaffer
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To: lowbridge
CLUELESS! -- typical entertainer...and loser from Hollywood...


7 posted on 03/07/2015 4:07:55 AM PST by BCW (ARMIS EXPOSCERE PACEM)
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To: BCW

8 posted on 03/07/2015 4:36:06 AM PST by 9thLife ("Life is a military endeavor..." -- Pope Francis)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

We’re up to our necks in it with China. Cuba is small beans.


9 posted on 03/07/2015 5:48:28 AM PST by Wolfie
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
I sometimes wish that people in free countries could be sentenced to live in unfree ones — just for a while
One of the benefits of a military draft was that it helped expose millions of young men to the reality of third world countries.
Not many ever bitched/whined about living in America after that.
10 posted on 03/07/2015 5:54:35 AM PST by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

That group was staged by the ministry......You can’t get into the main city unless you have a special workers identification pass. Any attempt to do so will get you arrested........


11 posted on 03/07/2015 5:56:21 AM PST by Hot Tabasco (Uncle Sy: "Beavers are like Ninjas, they only come out at night and they're hard to find")
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To: Wolfie
March 3, 2015: Colombia Stops Chinese Ship Carrying Large-Caliber Weapons to Cuba

"A mysterious vessel flying the Chinese flag has left a port in Cartagena, Colombia, after being stopped by local officials for carrying large amounts of undocumented, large-caliber firearms, en route to Cuba– where Colombia is currently staging talks with the terrorist group FARC....

.....The Chinese shipment of arms may not have anything to do with the FARC, however, as yet another pivotal negotiation is taking place in Havana: talks between Obama administration officials and the communist government in Havana, which has been clear that “changes in Cuba aren’t negotiable” with regard to the oppressive political system. Instead of resulting in the two parties inching closer to a goal in reestablishing diplomatic relations, the first round of talks concluded with Cuban dictator Raúl Castro demanding President Obama give the Guantánamo Bay military base to the communist government."

12 posted on 03/07/2015 5:58:33 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

I’m sure we’ll strike back at China. Maybe even a harshly worded letter. If Cuba had the same huge pool of cheap labor China has, we’d have normalized relations decades ago. Having zero principles in the face of profits will have that effect.


13 posted on 03/07/2015 6:05:39 AM PST by Wolfie
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Aggressive new HIV strain detected in Cuba

Those tourists who travel to Cuba looking for cheap run and sex are aiding and abetting the most brutal murderous regime in the history of this hemisphere, but in that exchange they might get in return more than they bargained for.

Aggressive new HIV strain detected in Cuba

upi.com ^ | Feb. 14, 2015 | Denise Royal

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3257752/posts

”A new HIV strain in some patients in Cuba appears to be much more aggressive and can develop into AIDS within three years of infection. Researchers said the progression happens so fast that treatment with antiretroviral drugs may come too late. Without treatment, HIV infection usually takes 5 to 10 years to turn into AIDS, according to Anne-Mieke Vandamme, a medical professor at Belgium’s University of Leuvan. According to the study, published in the journal EBioMedicine, Vandamme was alerted to the new aggressive strain of HIV by Cuban health officials who wanted to find out what was happening.”

Before Castro, the Cubans did not need visa to visit U.S. or establishing residence in this country. Cubans did not need before the triumph of the Cuban communist revolution to cross in make shift rafts the Florida Straits where 4 for every 5 Cubans lost their lives in their pursuit of freedom, they came by plane or ferry as tourists and students. There were not Cuban dreamers in quest of the American opportunities. In fact, before Castro, there were more Americans living in Cuba than Cuban living in United States. The living standard in Cuba in the 1950’s was second only to the United States.

About the much maligned portray of Cuba as an American playground and mafia enclave, it must noted that in Cuba before Castro, the mafiosi that created Las Vegas’ emporium, had only three casinos in Havana and the yearly income of those casinos together were less than the income of any single Las Vegas casinos in a week.

Before Castro an average of 200,000 American tourists visited Cuba, in 2014, it was over 650,000. But together with Americans, came also thousands of tourists from Europe and Latin American including many looking for sex with children. Now Cuba is now a Mecca for the most depraved pedophiles and pederasts that go there looking for sexual exploitation of children. In fact Havana is second only Bangkok in that abominable crime.

By 1995 the Italian travel magazine Viaggiare recognized Cuba as the “paradise of sexual tourism,” awarding it five stars for its “general erotic level.” According to the magazine, Cuba beat out such competitors as Brazil and Thailand. (Adams, p. 1A; Dalia Acosta, Culture Tourism: Cuba Brushes up its Tourist Image, Interpress Service, Sept. 19, 1997. Lexis-Nexis).

Those tourists who travel looking for unending bacchanals are aiding and abetting the most brutal murderous regime in the history of this hemisphere.

Renowned English historian, Hugh Thomas, who wrote an scholar “History of Cuba, The Pursuit of Freedom” from the Discovery to the beginning of Castro’s revolution, referring to Castro’s Cuba affirmed in The Spectator (7/12/1986): “The comparison must be with the account of Nazi concentration camps. Although there as yet no gas chambers in Cuba, there have been experiments of a criminal biological type designed to see how far an individual can survive starvation, beating, solitary confinement, and many various kinds of ill treatment. Valladares’ account of working in a stone quarry is not dissimilar to, and no more humane than, the many accounts extant of ‘life’ in Manthausen.”


14 posted on 03/07/2015 6:16:07 AM PST by Dqban22 (Hpo<p> http://i.imgur.com/26RbAPxjpg)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Ain’t Marxism wonderful. Wonder if he is going to talk to any of the dissidents working in the cane fields?

Pray America is waking


15 posted on 03/07/2015 6:35:59 AM PST by bray (Palin/Cruz to the WH)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Don’t tell me, I’ll guess. Conan O’Brien exhausted himself by playing with all the macho boys and young men in Havana! Not to mention his entourage who were spreading the loot, sex toys, and drugs around. Party hardy! Come together in the Cuban communist paradise. Yippee! Hooray!


16 posted on 03/07/2015 6:45:32 AM PST by MasterGunner01
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

I only saw the first five minutes; but in that, he was poking fun at the lack of choice in Cuba’s grocery stores and their reliance on old technology like pay phones.


17 posted on 03/08/2015 4:16:44 PM PDT by Plummz (pro-constitution, anti-corruption)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

He would have had a great time in Theresienstadt in 1943.


18 posted on 03/08/2015 4:17:15 PM PDT by dfwgator
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