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Texas Ebola nurse says hospital failed her and her colleagues
MSN World News ^ | March 1 2015 | REUTERS

Posted on 03/01/2015 1:52:31 PM PST by CorporateStepsister

The first person infected with Ebola in the United States, nurse Nina Pham, said she was used for publicity purposes by her hospital, which also invaded her privacy and did not properly train her, the Dallas Morning News reported on Sunday.

Pham, 26, told the newspaper that chaos hit the Dallas hospital when it admitted Thomas Duncan, the first person diagnosed with Ebola in the United States after he contracted it in Liberia. Nurses were ill prepared and received little guidance on how to treat Ebola or protect themselves.

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TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: dallas; ebola; hospital; liberia; ninapham; nurse; privacy; treatment; unitedstates
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To: Sherman Logan

ICU nurses tend to be younger. ICUs have a high burn out rate.
Also, maybe the older, wiser nurses may have refused the case.


41 posted on 03/01/2015 4:12:39 PM PST by kaila
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To: hondact200

I guess then if your employer does something that causes you permanent disability, you are not going to sue your employer?


42 posted on 03/01/2015 4:13:59 PM PST by kaila
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To: Sherman Logan

He had a fever, and he was coming from a country that has an Ebola outbreak. He also was in contact with a person who had recently died from Ebola. He lied about this. Had the government been cautious and serious about protecting America, he would have never been allowed into the US.


43 posted on 03/01/2015 4:22:00 PM PST by NoKoolAidforMe (I'm clinging to my God and my guns. You can keep the change.)
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To: Gasshog
"Nina Pham, said she was used for publicity purposes by her hospital,"


44 posted on 03/01/2015 4:46:00 PM PST by clearcarbon
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To: NoKoolAidforMe

Duncan was presumably exposed on the 15th, entered the US on the 20, and began showing symptoms on the 24th.

Given the usual progression of the disease, it’s unlikely he had a fever on the 20th.

Now he probably knew he’d been exposed, though there is some question about that, and had he been honest about his recent medical history he would have been stopped before entering the country.

But I’ve never seen any evidence at all that US procedures were not properly followed. Those procedures just wouldn’t have been effective at keeping him out.

Now quite arguably those procedures should have been very different, but the government didn’t blow Duncan’s case off. They followed procedure.

Just as, BTW, the screeners did on 9/11. Both cases were a case of inadequate policy, not failure to follow policy.


45 posted on 03/01/2015 4:51:26 PM PST by Sherman Logan
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To: Sherman Logan

I agree


46 posted on 03/01/2015 5:36:55 PM PST by Donnafrflorida (Thru HnodredscottIM all things are possible.)
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To: Sherman Logan

Go get’em Nina!


47 posted on 03/01/2015 9:36:56 PM PST by ThanhPhero (Khach san La Vang hanh huong tham vieng Maria)
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To: CorporateStepsister

Call it what you will - I know a number of nurses at several local hospitals and what they were telling me back then corroborates her claims - 99% of the Nation’s hospitals were unprepared and paying a potentially serious issue lip service with the intent to “react the best we can if it hits here”.


48 posted on 03/02/2015 4:19:40 AM PST by trebb (Where in the the hell has my country gone?)
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To: hondact200

Yes, she should be glad. Most would be dead by now and second, I look forward to the whole story coming out soon. She had to have signed a waiver to end up getting the new experimental treatment and have her life saved.


49 posted on 03/02/2015 8:17:20 AM PST by CorporateStepsister (I am NOT going to force a man to make my dreams come true)
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To: dinodino

(s)because it is on the internet it must be true.(/s)


50 posted on 03/02/2015 8:21:40 AM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: kaila

sovereign immunity as to suing the government.


51 posted on 03/02/2015 8:42:23 AM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: CedarDave

Are they complete idiots? It’s not like Ebola is a new disease.


52 posted on 03/02/2015 1:31:46 PM PST by dinodino
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To: Sherman Logan

I am not sure if this is legit, but the Youtube user Bourbon cowboy showed how water, and potentially blood, vomit, and other materials, if in large enough quantities, will seep through most standard nurse attire. It’s pretty disturbing. If they were going to bring in possible infectees they should have had proper preparations to accomodate this. Heck, they should have placed people coming into the hot zone under quarantine just to be sure that they did or didn’t have ebola.


53 posted on 03/19/2015 4:01:03 PM PDT by Morpheus2009
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To: Morpheus2009

Here’s the actual video, where Bourbon Cowboy shows you the real danger that hospital staff were on by the garments that nurses and doctors wear.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IbHjgr3fEF8


54 posted on 03/19/2015 4:03:46 PM PDT by Morpheus2009
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To: Morpheus2009

I’m not sure why the Youtube guy thought it was necessary to demonstrate this.

Standard nurse PPE is intended to protect against particles and droplets. It doesn’t even claim to be waterproof. Never has.

You can look up the ratings yourself.


55 posted on 03/20/2015 6:28:28 AM PDT by Sherman Logan
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To: Sherman Logan

Well, we were nowhere near adequately prepared for ebola, and yet the CDC said it was okay to let at risk people into our country like running water, they deserve to have mockery and criticism from all corners and all kinds of people piled at their feet for lying to the public about how prepared we were for it.


56 posted on 03/20/2015 6:47:46 AM PDT by Morpheus2009
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To: Morpheus2009

Oh, I agree.

We have/had the technology and knowledge to be prepared for it, but apparently those in ultimate charge initially suffered from the hubris of thinking that because we are Americans were are invulnerable.

Also known as overestimating yourself and underestimating the enemy. The all-time most efficient way to lose a war.

I’m only peripherally involved with infection control. My knowledge of the subject is slight. But they would have been better off having me in charge than the people who were.

I wonder to what extent this is due to having lawyers and activists in positions of responsibility. They think words and regulations are the source of all good things.

Viruses (and other enemies) are utterly unimpressed.


57 posted on 03/20/2015 7:13:50 AM PDT by Sherman Logan
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To: Sherman Logan

I still remember Dr. Gupta on CNN bragging his head off about how we Americans had nothing to fear from ebola to this day, and no one in America had a chance of catching it...


58 posted on 03/20/2015 7:22:44 AM PDT by Morpheus2009
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To: Morpheus2009

I gotta admit this is a complex issue.

Did/do we have the capability to keep that from happening?

We sure do. Will we do what is necessary to accomplish that? Recent evidence is not encouraging.

Political considerations simply have no place in discussion of public health meausures. Sadly, they do,


59 posted on 03/20/2015 8:32:56 AM PDT by Sherman Logan
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To: Morpheus2009

CDC was right, obviously, on some things.

There was zero spread of Ebola to people peripherally exposed. Only to those around him in the last stages, when infectiousness goes up by orders of magnitude.

This unintentional experiment does indicate, though not prove, that the risk of casual transmission from those who are not symptomatic or who are in early stages of symptoms is slight.

Which is encouraging. You really don’t have much chance of getting it from somebody on the bus.


60 posted on 03/20/2015 8:36:08 AM PDT by Sherman Logan
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