Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

Here's video of the US Navy testing a 'game changing' new missile
businessinsider.com ^ | Feb. 11, 2015 | Jeremy Bender

Posted on 02/11/2015 10:09:45 AM PST by Berlin_Freeper

... Deputy Secretary of Defense Bob Work, the Pentagon's second-highest-ranked civilian, praised the successful test of the missile during a keynote speech at the WEST 2015 conference. He said the missiles were part of the Pentagon's "Third Offset Strategy," an initiative focused on research into new long-range weapons.

“A big part of the Third Offset Strategies is to find new and innovative ways to deploy promising technologies,” Work said. “This is potentially a game changing capability for not a lot of cost. It’s a 1000 mile anti-ship cruise missile.”

(Excerpt) Read more at uk.businessinsider.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS:
Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-2021-25 next last

1 posted on 02/11/2015 10:09:45 AM PST by Berlin_Freeper
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | View Replies]

To: Berlin_Freeper

So the the weak point is the F-18 getting shot down?


2 posted on 02/11/2015 10:13:36 AM PST by Boiler Plate ("Why be difficult, when with just a little more work, you can be impossible" Mom)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Boiler Plate

There was no revelation about how “stand off” the F-18 needs to be. We assume it must be in at least radar range for a moving target. Right? But consider this. An F-18 can’t fly 2,000 miles round trip without refueling (at least not in combat configuration and speed that I know of). The F-18 is presumably a carrier configured jet. But I suppose the technology does not have to specifically be limited to the F-18. I don’t know and am just guessing.


3 posted on 02/11/2015 10:18:17 AM PST by Tenacious 1 (POPOF. President Of Pants On Fire.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: Boiler Plate
By converting TLAMs into missiles capable of penetrating thickly-armored vessels at sea..

Thickly armored? Are any warships thickly armored anymore?

4 posted on 02/11/2015 10:18:55 AM PST by Cry if I Wanna
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: Berlin_Freeper

We’re obviously playing the wrong game................


5 posted on 02/11/2015 10:21:04 AM PST by Red Badger (If you compromise with evil, you just get more evil..........................)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Berlin_Freeper; All
 photo screen-shot-2014-03-03-at-6-02-57-pm.png

Help FR Continue the Conservative Fight!
Your Monthly and Quarterly Donations
Help Keep FR In the Battle!

Sponsoring FReepers are contributing
$10 Each time a New Monthly Donor signs up!
Get more bang for your FR buck!
Click Here To Sign Up Now!


6 posted on 02/11/2015 10:26:49 AM PST by musicman (Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Berlin_Freeper
I don't get the hype. We built Tomahawk TASM variants in the 1980's Why is this now "new" tecnology? Also MacDac built the Harpoon and the Tomahawk used it's anti-ship guidance system.

Most TASM's were converted to TLAM variants. So, the best I can say is that Tomahawk anti-shiop variants are being reborn.

7 posted on 02/11/2015 10:32:50 AM PST by pfflier
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Berlin_Freeper
It’s a 1000 mile anti-ship cruise missile.

Why just an anti-ship missile? Seems like there could be multiple uses for it.

8 posted on 02/11/2015 10:40:15 AM PST by McGruff (WeÂ’re Leaving Behind A Stable And Self-Reliant Iraq - Barack Obama 2011)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Berlin_Freeper
“This is a significant accomplishment,” said Capt. Joe Mauser, Tomahawk Weapons System (PMA-280) program manager. "It demonstrates the viability of long-range communications for position updates of moving targets. This success further demonstrates the existing capability of Tomahawk as a netted weapon, and in doing so, extends its reach beyond fixed and re-locatable points to moving targets.”
9 posted on 02/11/2015 10:40:34 AM PST by Berlin_Freeper
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Berlin_Freeper
If the Navy can perfect the methodology, it would give the service an almost 1,000 nautical mile extension – the range of the TLAM — of its lethal anti-surface radius for its newer guided missile destroyers, which are not fitted with the service’s aging RGM-84 Harpoon anti-ship missile.
10 posted on 02/11/2015 10:44:27 AM PST by Berlin_Freeper
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Cry if I Wanna
Are any warships thickly armored anymore?
Not like the Iowa Class battleships from WWII, which had 18 inches of laminated steel at the waterline.
11 posted on 02/11/2015 10:48:21 AM PST by dainbramaged (Get out of my country now)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 4 | View Replies]

To: Cry if I Wanna
No, anything hit by a Harpoon or comparable sized SSM would be a mission kill at the very least. Most corvettes (which make up a sizable percentage of the world's surface forces) would be knocked out or burned to the waterline while frigates would be hard pressed to continue the fight. Larger ships like the Burkes and Ticos could continue the fight depending upon where they got hit, while carriers like the Nimitz class would shrug it off unless it's the size of Tomahawk or SS-N-22.
12 posted on 02/11/2015 11:13:58 AM PST by aegiscg47
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 4 | View Replies]

To: Boiler Plate

So, you didn’t read the article as usual. This is a SHIP based missile.

The F-18, in this case, was a chase plane filming the missiles flight.


13 posted on 02/11/2015 11:16:04 AM PST by Freeport (The proper application of high explosives will remove all obstacles.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: Freeport
Read again the article clearly states "a TLAM which was guided into a moving maritime target through directions given by a Boeing F/A-18E/F Super Hornet flying overhead.
14 posted on 02/11/2015 11:26:26 AM PST by Red_Devil 232 ((VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!))
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 13 | View Replies]

To: Tenacious 1; Boiler Plate
There was no revelation about how “stand off” the F-18 needs to be.

I'm guessing it doesn't have to be an F-18. A satellite, a Predator done (or some future stealthy naval drone), a submarine -- anything that can observe the target and transmit terminal guidance info to the missile.

15 posted on 02/11/2015 11:35:27 AM PST by PapaBear3625 (You don't notice it's a police state until the police come for you.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | View Replies]

To: Berlin_Freeper

Later


16 posted on 02/11/2015 11:39:56 AM PST by gaijin
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: PapaBear3625
I'm guessing it doesn't have to be an F-18.

Correct, the real scenario is a MQ-4C Triton drone (naval Globalhawk) or P8 flying hundreds of miles in front of the battle group messaging back the targeting info to Destroyer which will launch the Tomahawk and then have those coordinates updated as the missile progresses to account for moving ships. Once the missile get's close it will guide itself in using it's own seeker.

The ability to update targeting in flight is the critical part. Sure, we've had long distance Tomahawks for a long time but they were only good for hitting static land targets. 1000 miles at launch means almost two hours in the air. A ship or a Bin Laden doesn't sit still that long.
17 posted on 02/11/2015 11:54:59 AM PST by Daus
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 15 | View Replies]

To: Berlin_Freeper

Doesn’t their slow speed this make them defensible?

China and Russia have some fairly long range anti-shop misslies that are mach 2 or 3 which makes them much harder to shoot down, don’t they?


18 posted on 02/11/2015 11:59:06 AM PST by skyman
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Berlin_Freeper

Those pidgin’s had wheels up before the missile got there.


19 posted on 02/11/2015 12:00:36 PM PST by Rappini (Veritas Vos Liberabit)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Berlin_Freeper

I imagine next generation naval weaponry as very heavy with fleets of drone aircraft, surface and subsurface craft.

Importantly, a UUV submarine, for example, does not have to be particularly quiet as it engages potential targets, and can even use active sonar against them. And if it does not encounter any enemy, it can be picked up at leisure, later.


20 posted on 02/11/2015 12:58:31 PM PST by yefragetuwrabrumuy ("Don't compare me to the almighty, compare me to the alternative." -Obama, 09-24-11)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-2021-25 next last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson