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Getting Medieval: Let’s leave the Middle Ages out of discussions of modern Islam
National Review ^ | Thomas F. Madden

Posted on 02/09/2015 2:58:45 AM PST by GulliverSwift

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To: Vaquero

“.....many Christians, like the president........”

Must have been a misprint.......odumbo’s no Christian.


21 posted on 02/09/2015 4:36:35 AM PST by DaveA37
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

Reread and looked at the structure.

I am now unsure exactly what the writer had in mind. As most of the MSM would have, in their typically bad usage, meant any number of things. As this is National Review, I usually give them the benefit of the doubt. I do tend to think that the participle dangles a bit.


22 posted on 02/09/2015 4:37:19 AM PST by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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To: logic101.net

“anything we “knew” yesterday that conflicts with today’s “facts” are supposed to go down the memory hole.”

I thought I should pinch myself when Susan Rice informed me, and in fact the world, that ISIS/AQI/Taliban, etc. are NOT the existential threat to our national securities as Nazi Germany and the Empire of Japan had been during WWII.

However, because the source of this assessment was Susan Rice, the US National Security Advisor to President Barack Hussein Obama, my initial concerns and doubts have been satisfactorily assuaged...”And that’s a good thing!”/s


23 posted on 02/09/2015 4:53:43 AM PST by equaviator (There's nothing like the universe to bring you down to earth.)
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24 posted on 02/09/2015 4:55:16 AM PST by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: GulliverSwift

No! - Islam of the middle ages is relevant for it shows clearly the modus operendi of the modern Islamists - they haven’t changed.


25 posted on 02/09/2015 5:12:01 AM PST by elpadre (AfganistaMr Obama said the goal was to "disrupt, dismantle and defeat al-hereQaeda" and its allies.)
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To: DaveA37

He is separating them, it should read; Many Christians think like the president, that...


26 posted on 02/09/2015 5:20:34 AM PST by bray (Palin/Cruz to the WH)
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To: GulliverSwift

An answer posted to me by an Obama apologist, when I put this article up on Facebook:

“No, he should not have said that. It was not the right venue and certainly not the right climate.
The national review article is wrong when it says the church had no capital offenses. It had a laundry list of them, including eating meat on Friday. And how was it an emergency to liberate the a Holy Land from Islam when Jerusalem fell to Arab Muslims in 638?
We have a real history, but we outgrew it. A part of Islam has not.”


27 posted on 02/09/2015 5:42:45 AM PST by Beowulf9
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To: GulliverSwift
Let’s leave the Middle Ages out of discussions of modern Islam

Maybe it is time to remember why the Crusades happened and what a problem islam was and is. It is also not a bad thing to understand what caused the reformation of the Church and why the Church needed reforming in the first place and why it can never happen in islam.

Christianity was not the problem it was the masses not having access to the written word of the "Bible" with only a very select few disseminating and manipulating that knowledge. The written koran is easily read by all and it is the problem with islam.

28 posted on 02/09/2015 5:51:51 AM PST by Lady Heron
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To: Vaquero

I agree you can definitely read it both ways. But, given the author’s perspective in the article, I concluded he is not saying the president is a Christian.


29 posted on 02/09/2015 6:24:04 AM PST by ProtectOurFreedom (Buzzards gotta eat, same as worms.)
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To: Smokin' Joe; Vaquero

“Tails” pet magazine, cover headline, December 2010...

“Rachel Ray finds inspiration in cooking her family and her dog.”


30 posted on 02/09/2015 6:32:59 AM PST by ProtectOurFreedom (Buzzards gotta eat, same as worms.)
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To: knarf

Get that to 0bammy....quick!


31 posted on 02/09/2015 6:39:36 AM PST by Jane Long ("And when thou saidst, Seek ye my face; my heart said unto thee, Thy face, LORD, will I seek")
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To: Vaquero

Maybe he meant it tongue-in-cheek.


32 posted on 02/09/2015 6:40:43 AM PST by Jane Long ("And when thou saidst, Seek ye my face; my heart said unto thee, Thy face, LORD, will I seek")
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To: Jane Long

He already knows ... they ALL do ... that’s why WE know they’re evil muderers of America.


33 posted on 02/09/2015 6:41:19 AM PST by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but, they're true)
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To: Travis McGee

“Honey, where are my Daisy Cutters?”


34 posted on 02/09/2015 7:10:38 AM PST by equaviator (There's nothing like the universe to bring you down to earth.)
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To: Vaquero

That aligns with my “take” on Obama.


35 posted on 02/09/2015 7:14:53 AM PST by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: GulliverSwift

China forces imams to dance in street

February 9, 2015 sheikyer mami Leave a comment

This is good. The next step should be to make them jump through hoops. And to dance cheek to cheek with women.

(Muslim) public servants are forced to brandish the slogan that “our income comes from the CKP not from Allah”.
China forces imams to dance in street

China has forced the imams of Xinjiang to dance in the street, and swear to an oath that they will not teach religion to children as well telling them that prayer is harmful to the soul.

More below the fold:

China Just Banned All Muslim Call To Prayer
With Muslim immigration comes religious demands, including obnoxious calls to prayer over speakers, rioting for Sharia law, and food that meets halal standards.

In China, imams are being forced to dans, (sic) at the same time being made to make an oath to keep children away from religion - public servants are forced to brandish the slogan that “our income comes from the CKP not from Allah”.

The imams of the mosques in the Xinjiang have been forerced to gather in a square dancing en masse. State Chinese news have said that in the name of “civilization” the imams have been forced to dance in the town square. At the same time they were forced to chant out slogans such as ‘peace of the country gives peace to the soul”. Many of the imams were forcibly given Chinese flags – the same demonstration also included university students.

During the speeches, young people were told to stay away from mosques, and that the prayer was harmful to ones health and instead were encouraged to dance. Female teachers were instructed to teach children to stay away from religious education and made to swear an oath that they will keep children away from religion.

http://sheikyermami.com/china-forces-imams-to-dance-in-street/


36 posted on 02/09/2015 7:38:22 AM PST by KeyLargo
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Obama’s Drones Have Killed More Than the Spanish Inquisition

by
Patrick Poole

February 7, 2015 - 1:04 pm

Controversy still swirls around Obama’s comments during the National Prayer Breakfast this week, where he chastised Christians for getting on their “high horse” over the ongoing global jihad, invoking medieval abuses that occurred hundreds of years ago during the Crusades and Inquisition.

But perhaps it is Obama who should avoid getting on his high horse, since according to recently published statistics, Obama’s drone campaign has killed more people during the six years of his presidency than were killed the 350 years of the Spanish Inquisition.

http://pjmedia.com/tatler/2015/02/07/obamas-drones-have-killed-more-than-the-spanish-inquisition/


37 posted on 02/09/2015 7:40:36 AM PST by KeyLargo
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Obama purposely insulted Christians because he doesn’t like the National Prayer Breakfast – Chuck Todd
Posted on Feb 8, 2015 at 8:00 PM in Religion | 74 Comments
By soopermexican

Chuck Todd is rarely this honest, but he interrupted a guest this morning to put forth his theory that Obama insulted Christians with his comments about the Crusades because he actually just kinda hates the National Prayer Breakfast.

Watch below:

http://therightscoop.com/obama-purposely-insulted-christians-because-he-doesnt-like-the-national-prayer-breakfast-chuck-todd/


38 posted on 02/09/2015 7:44:02 AM PST by KeyLargo
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ISLAM: THE AWFUL TRUTH

By Justin O. Smith

American Thinker October 4, 2014

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/3211166/posts

Islam is violent and repressive, and its sacred texts are the heart of darkness at the center of the Islamic State's inspiration and motivation, despite Barack Obama's assertions in September 10th's address to the nation that the Islamic State "is not Islamic" and that "no religion condones the killing of innocents." Violence is an integral part of Islamic doctrine, following the example set by its Prophet Mohammed, and in the name of Islam and Allah, Muslims have been murdering innocents, since 656 AD.

Six hundred years after Mohammed, one of Islam's most respected scholars, Ibn Khuldan wrote 'Muqaddimah' (Introduction to History), which explained: "In the Muslim community, the holy war is religious duty, because of the universalism of the Muslim mission and [the obligation to] convert everybody to Islam either by persuasion or force."

Like most good Muslims, Khaldun's inspiration came from 'The Verse of the Sword', Sura 9:5, "revealed" towards the end of Mohammed's life, as well as similar themes previous to Sura 9:

Sura 9:5__ “...kill the Mushrikun (unbelievers) wherever you find them ... But if they repent and perform As-Salat/ Iqamat-as-Salat [the Islamic ritual prayers], then leave their way free..." Also Sura 9:33__ "It is He [Allah] Who has sent His Messenger [Mohammed] with guidance and the religion of truth [Islam], to make it superior over all religions..."

Radical Islamist: 'Acceptable' to Burn Jordanian Pilot Alive?Radical Islamic activist Anjem Choudary proclaimed on Thursday that the barbaric execution of a Jordanian pilot could be "acceptable behavior" under the rules of jihad.

Long before the Crusades, starting with Mohammed to the present times, the Muslims have been committing unbelievable atrocities in the name of Allah and Islam. Jesus preached love, even for our enemies; Muhammad, with his scimitar in hand, ordered to behead or to burn alive the infidels that did not convert to Islam.

“But doesn’t Islam prohibit burning people alive? To answer this question, we need to first look at Muhammad, who spoke for Allah (4:80) and is considered the standard of perfect conduct for Muslims (33:21). Muhammad had no qualms about burning people.

In December 627 Muhammad led an attack against the Al-Mustalaq tribe. Because that tribe fought back, Muhammad ordered their fortifications to be set on fire, even though the Muslims knew there were women and children inside.

Around June 628, when Kinanah bin al-Rabi of the Jewish Bani al-Nadir tribe would not reveal where his conquered tribe’s treasures were hidden, Muhammad ordered one of his soldiers, “Torture him until you extract what he has,” so a fire was built on Kinanah’s chest until Kinanah nearly died.

In June 632, after Muhammad’s death, an attack on Ubna that he had earlier ordered took place. The leader of the Muslim force said,

the Messenger of God commanded me and this was his last command to me: …to raid them, without inviting them [to Islam], and to destroy and burn.

The Life of Muhammad: Al-Waqidi’s Kitab al-Maghazi, p. 549

And Muhammad even considered burning down Muslims’ houses around them to compel their attendance at congregational prayers:

http://www.frontpagemag.com/2015/dr-stephen-m-kirby/islam-and-burning-people-alive/ Also http://www.newsmax.com/Newsmax-Tv/Anjem-Choudary-Islamic-State-ISIS-pilot/2015/02/05/id/622993/

39 posted on 02/09/2015 9:46:36 AM PST by Dqban22 (Hpo<p> http://i.imgur.com/26RbAPxjpg)
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To: GulliverSwift

If the shoe fits....


40 posted on 02/09/2015 9:47:39 AM PST by uncitizen (They demand we judge them by the color of their skin)
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