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Jeb Bush: We will lose our liberties if we control the border
americanthinker.com ^ | 2/5/15 | Pedro Gonzalez

Posted on 02/05/2015 5:33:53 AM PST by cotton1706

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But here's the most incredible statement:

Other comments included that Bush declared that "it's not possible in a free country to completely control the border without us losing our freedoms and liberties."

Unbelievable how these people think!

1 posted on 02/05/2015 5:33:53 AM PST by cotton1706
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To: cotton1706
"it's not possible in a free country to completely control the border without us losing our freedoms and liberties."

It depends on which way the guns are pointing.
2 posted on 02/05/2015 5:37:27 AM PST by Dr. Sivana (There is no salvation in politics)
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To: cotton1706

Oh, and by the way, this is how they plan to push back on “secure the border”


3 posted on 02/05/2015 5:37:57 AM PST by cotton1706 (ThisRepublic.net)
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To: cotton1706

The man sounds like he is on something.His remarks are disjointed.


4 posted on 02/05/2015 5:38:12 AM PST by Farmer Dean (stop worrying about what they want to do to you,start thinking about what you want to do to them)
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To: cotton1706

“Now it would look different, it wouldn’t be Polish”

What an idiot he is. When was the last time one could say Detroit was Polish? Or maybe, it’s a racial put down.


5 posted on 02/05/2015 5:39:17 AM PST by kenmcg
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To: cotton1706

I always thought his daddy and brother were for a united North America, not necessarily for a USA.


6 posted on 02/05/2015 5:39:28 AM PST by Resettozero
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To: cotton1706

I don’t care if Detroit is full of people whose ancestry is Polish or Mexican. What I care about is whether those people entered our country legally. If they are criminals who entered illegally, I don’t want them in my country. If they are criminals, why would anyone think they would build a good city out of the ruins of Detroit. Why would we be better off teaching the world that criminals will be rewarded in the United States while those who try to follow the law will die of old age before they are permitted to come here?

No, thank you. I will support the rule of law. That may or may not include increased legal immigration, but it will certainly include the most aggressive possible enforcement of existing immigration laws. Most important, anyone in our country illegally should (before being deported) be fingerprinted, DNA swabbed, and permanently banned from any path to citizenship or even to legal reentry.


7 posted on 02/05/2015 5:41:09 AM PST by Pollster1 ("Shall not be infringed" is unambiguous.)
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8 posted on 02/05/2015 5:42:10 AM PST by DJ MacWoW (The Fed Gov is not one ring to rule them all)
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To: cotton1706

How many times can u jump the shark?


9 posted on 02/05/2015 5:42:41 AM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: cotton1706

Why would they go to Detroit? There are no jobs or opportunities there anymore.


10 posted on 02/05/2015 5:42:43 AM PST by Blood of Tyrants (Good Muslims, like good Nazis or good liberals, are terrible human beings.)
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To: cotton1706

It all depends on how you control the border. With our present, lawyer dominated, system I am scared he is correct.

If you totally change the approach and cut the current system players out of the loop it is very possible. IMHO the first step in this approach forces all of the people and organizations that support this criminal activity, that is what crossing the border without approval really is, to be charged as unindicted co-conspirators (that is what they really are). As such they are liable for legal action to recover costs and damages.

Also IMHO the reason that we have so many lawyers and advocates involved is because that is where the money (our tax dollars) is and there is absolutely no risk to them. Free a multiple murder and he kills again - this means more money for the lawyers and advocates under the current system. But, what would happen if it means less money to those same people?


11 posted on 02/05/2015 5:43:40 AM PST by Nip (BOHEICA and TANSTAAFL - both seem very appropriate today.)
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To: cotton1706

It sounds as if he’s trying to connect with an audience that he has only a vague, theoretical understanding of, and no real common ground with.

Oh wait- he is.

No. Next, please?


12 posted on 02/05/2015 5:44:36 AM PST by Riley (The Fourth Estate is the Fifth Column.)
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To: cotton1706
Another “ big thinker” creating grand illusions that he wants to impose on US while he remains ensconced in his comfy inherited cocoon.
13 posted on 02/05/2015 5:45:03 AM PST by Awgie (truth is always stranger than fiction)
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To: cotton1706

Weasel words. Fractured fairytale. Off the cogent map. No surprises.


14 posted on 02/05/2015 5:48:10 AM PST by dasboot
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To: cotton1706

I listened objectively to Jeb speaking in Detroit (it was carried on C-Span radio). He was not just an open borders liberal but a fake. His handlers must have told him to act tough so when he said America was the country with the greatest opportunity (or something like that), he said “and if you disagree with me, we’ll take it outside”. And that was the second time he used the “take it outside” quip.


15 posted on 02/05/2015 5:49:27 AM PST by palmer (Free is when you don't have to pay for nothing. Or do nothing. We want Obamanet.)
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To: cotton1706
Great idea from Bush III. ... he wanted to repopulate Detroit with illegal aliens.

Fathead intimates that these snakes who crawl across our borders spreading epidemics can somehow rekindle Detroit to greatness.

Perhaps during his rallies he can obtain the services of his step-brother, Billy Goat Clinton, to rev up the votes; or, Barry Obama could jaunt up the steps to the platform and be of great help.

16 posted on 02/05/2015 5:49:32 AM PST by HomerBohn (God is just, but his justice cannot sleep forever!)
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To: cotton1706

I swear this guy is a Democrat plant to utterly destroy the GOP. It will probably work. The defeat he will hand the Republican party will go down in the record books.


17 posted on 02/05/2015 5:50:28 AM PST by Attention Surplus Disorder (At no time was the Obama administration aware of what the Obama administration was doing)
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To: Riley

In Detroit he was talking to some sort of Chamber of Commerce. He connected perfectly well, they asked all softball questions and they they applauded his lame answers.


18 posted on 02/05/2015 5:51:22 AM PST by palmer (Free is when you don't have to pay for nothing. Or do nothing. We want Obamanet.)
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To: cotton1706
Why is this subject even relevant? We've long ago ceded America to the liberals in both parties, liberals who made it plain their intention to reduce the country to third world status.

Idiot kids have the vote and repeatedly endorse the least qualified, albeit iconoclastic candidates. O'Dummy, Hitlery, et al.

Finally, elections are stolen via voter fraud and conservatives have done little about it.

If you take a sapling and bend it, and keep it bent, it'll grow like that. When it becomes a tree it's impossible to straighten out. America is that tree. What's the use?

19 posted on 02/05/2015 5:52:04 AM PST by LouAvul (If government is the answer, you're asking the wrong question.)
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To: Farmer Dean

He is speaking clearly. And if he wins the nomination, watch plenty of semi informed republicans vote for him.

Most of these guys will tell you exactly what they are about. Problem is, most voters don’t listen or don’t care.


20 posted on 02/05/2015 5:52:11 AM PST by roofgoat
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