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Jordan executes 2 Iraqi prisoners in response to ISIS killing of pilot
JPOST.COM ^ | 2/3/15 | REUTERS

Posted on 02/03/2015 9:45:10 PM PST by Nachum

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To: leapfrog0202

“Better yet, put together a coalition of countries like Israel and Jordan and let them bomb ISIS into extinction.”

Sorry, but Israel does not benefit from destroying ISIS. Muslime inner-fighting is not a bad thing, especially when you are Israel and are hated by Muslimes of all types. The more they are busy killing themselves, the less time and resources they have in killing Jews.


21 posted on 02/04/2015 12:10:06 AM PST by sagar
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To: lee martell

The US retribution is...we’re still arming, training and financing rebels who promise to be our friends.


22 posted on 02/04/2015 1:32:07 AM PST by grania
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To: sagar
Sorry, but Israel does not benefit from destroying ISIS

It's deeply disturbing if any countries still see benefit in the existence of ISIS or the groups they're inspiring.

23 posted on 02/04/2015 1:36:22 AM PST by grania
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To: Nachum

Jordan needs to frog march their every captive jihadist to the gallows and FILM THEIR EXECUTIONS.
Release the footage on open TV .

Follow up by launching unlimited and relentless air strikes on Raqqah Syria . Flatten the entire place and then bomb the rubble . There should not be a stone left standing .


24 posted on 02/04/2015 1:37:11 AM PST by LeoWindhorse
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To: sagar

I agree with you, but how long until it’s an Israeli being beheaded? They have the determination to do something about it.


25 posted on 02/04/2015 2:04:03 AM PST by leapfrog0202 ("the American presidency is not supposed to be a journey of personal discovery" Sarah Palin)
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To: grania

Exactly. The US will do something maybe after we elect a person with guts to the WH.


26 posted on 02/04/2015 2:06:18 AM PST by leapfrog0202 ("the American presidency is not supposed to be a journey of personal discovery" Sarah Palin)
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To: BeauBo

If his Dad was president we wouldn’t have got to this..

President Hunter would have stood up to the islamic terrorists and annihilated them years before this..

His Dad was the one who built the fence on our southern border and wanted it completed to keep out all intruders..


27 posted on 02/04/2015 2:20:53 AM PST by Tennessee Nana
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To: BeauBo

“He’s angry,” Hunter said of the king. “They’re starting more sorties tomorrow than they’ve ever had. They’re starting tomorrow. And he said, ‘The only problem we’re going to have is running out of fuel and bullets.’”

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If “Mom Jeans” in the WH won’t supply what Jordan needs, maybe Japan is mad enough to help Jordan with some funds. Evidently, also per interview on FOX with Hunter, King Abdullah is upset with all the ‘red tape’ in obtaining what he needs via the Mom Jeans administration.


28 posted on 02/04/2015 3:03:48 AM PST by Qiviut ( One of the most delightful things about a garden is the anticipation it provides. ~W.E. Johns)
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Evidently, also per interview on FOX with Hunter, King Abdullah is upset with all the ‘red tape’ in obtaining what he needs via the Mom Jeans administration.

I don't think he's referring to military aid. He's referring to U.S. assistance for infrastructure projects in Jordan. That's probably why the King of Jordan was visiting the U.S. in the first place.

When you beg for foreign aid, you have no business complaining about "red tape" in the process.

29 posted on 02/04/2015 4:00:08 AM PST by Alberta's Child ("It doesn't work for me. I gotta have more cowbell!")
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To: noinfringers2
The retribution ratio is to low. I believe a 10 to 1 ratio is more fitting. If need be to attain such a ratio make special safaris for getting the Jihadists.

Or a hundred to one.

30 posted on 02/04/2015 4:02:35 AM PST by samtheman
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To: BeauBo

Very insightful. Thanks - keep your observations coming.


31 posted on 02/04/2015 4:18:59 AM PST by Chainmail (A simple rule of life: if you can be blamed, you're responsible.)
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To: Alberta's Child

I don’t think he’s referring to military aid. He’s referring to U.S. assistance for infrastructure projects in Jordan. That’s probably why the King of Jordan was visiting the U.S. in the first place.

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Duncan Hunter was in the meeting with King Abdullah when he met with the House Armed Services Committee .... it was my impression the ‘red tape’ comments referenced by Hunter that Abdullah made referred to what was discussed in that meeting and military matters.

This was an unannounced visit by Abdullah, purportedly to:

- discuss the “latest regional and international developments as well as means of boosting bilateral ties” with officials and a number of chairmen and members of committees in both houses of Congress, a royal statement said on Monday.

- meet with prominent leaders of the Arab and Islamic communities in the United States, it added.

The statement did not give further details, but diplomatic sources told EFE that developments in the war against the Islamic State, IS, militia and other terrorist groups were expected to top King Abdullah’s talks, as Jordan is a member of the U.S.-led military coalition against the IS.


32 posted on 02/04/2015 4:22:08 AM PST by Qiviut ( One of the most delightful things about a garden is the anticipation it provides. ~W.E. Johns)
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To: Qiviut
The issue Jordan is facing -- and has been facing for several decades -- is that it has become the dumping ground for the surrounding unstable countries in the Middle East. The place has been overrun first by Palestinians, then Iraqis, and now Syrians. I've seen estimates that the official number of refugees from Syria now represents about 10% of Jordan's population. The real number is probably much higher than that.

The King of Jordan is in a tough position, and he has basically been reduced to begging for U.S. aid just to keep his country from falling into chaos and disarray.

33 posted on 02/04/2015 4:33:24 AM PST by Alberta's Child ("It doesn't work for me. I gotta have more cowbell!")
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To: Tennessee Nana

Not overly impressed with his son, but I really liked his dad. I was hoping for a chance to vote for him for president.


34 posted on 02/04/2015 5:05:12 AM PST by nuconvert ( Khomeini promised change too // Hail, Chairman O)
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To: nuconvert

I did get to vote for Congressman Duncan Hunter in the primary, Jan 2008...

I voted the first day of early voting in TN on the Wed before he dropped out..


35 posted on 02/04/2015 5:14:54 AM PST by Tennessee Nana
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To: Nachum

It’s a start. There is NO room in this world for the evil we are fighting in radical Islam. Until that ideology is totally destroyed, which will require killing all those who support this abominable evil cult, the world will not be a safe place.


36 posted on 02/04/2015 5:20:22 AM PST by ThomasMore (Islam is the Whore of Babylon!)
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To: Nachum

I am disappointed.


37 posted on 02/04/2015 6:41:47 AM PST by Cymbaline ("Allahu Akbar": Arabic for "Nothing To See Here" - Mark Steyn)
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To: Nachum

Only two? Are there more to come?


38 posted on 02/04/2015 9:40:09 AM PST by JimRed (Excise the cancer before it kills us; feed & water the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS NOW & FOREVER!)
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To: Alberta's Child

There is a lot of regulation of Foreign Military Sales, and a variety of restrictions that come with it - whether you are paying cash, or the American Government is paying for you.

The Jordanian military is equipped with American gear - M16 type rifles, F-16 fighter jets and so forth. A lot of the parts and ammo can only be procured from American defense contractors, who are governed by our export control laws, and DoD review procedures.

So on one hand, there is a long lead time for orders to be processed, and on the other hand, you must commit to a variety of restrictions on the use of those weapons (e.g. no resale to third parties, not to be used against US allies, no war crimes under the Geneva and Hague Conventions, etc.).

When things hit the fan, as in Jordan right now, the King just wants to see a flurry of activity, with folks hustling to load planes and build an iron mountain of ordnance for him to lay waste to his enemies. But that depends on the American President.

It is possible to circumvent all those delays and restrictions in an emergency, if the President authorizes it. Reagan did this during the Falklands war - he blanket authorized whatever the Brits requested, and directed the US military to anticipate what they might need and get that moving. As a result, the UK fleet, which was rapidly deployed, was able to make a pit stop in Diego Garcia enroute, and load up with anti-aircraft and anti-ship missiles which were important to the outcome, and saved British lives.

Obama did the opposite when Israel last went into Gaza - he used his discretion to delay (effectively halt) processing of resupply orders to Israel of critical munitions, so that they would be unable to continue operations, without depleting their reserves, making them vulnerable to a secondary attack. I’m sure that they had to consider the possibility that a “mole” within the Obama administration would inform Isreal’s enemies of any vulnerability.

So King Abdullah needs to have Obama on board if he wants to engage in a sustained campaign, and not be hung out to dry to a counter-attack, like Obama’s former allies in the Syrian resistance, who were cut off from resupply, after they engaged in combat.


39 posted on 02/04/2015 10:19:40 AM PST by BeauBo
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To: BeauBo
I would think Jordan has no interest in engaging in any unilateral military action. If anything, they would prefer to have the U.S. do it ourselves. It serves no purpose for them to be involved in military campaigns with their neighbors except as part of an agreement with the U.S. where Jordan is getting a pile of cash from the U.S. taxpayers.

Most of the problems Jordan faces today are the direct result of regional instability caused by others -- including the U.S.

When King Abdullah visits the U.S. to ask for help, he's actually demanding (politely) that we help him deal with the mess that WE created over there.

40 posted on 02/04/2015 10:31:55 AM PST by Alberta's Child ("It doesn't work for me. I gotta have more cowbell!")
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