Posted on 02/01/2015 2:42:52 PM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks
Now, many experts view it as a sexual orientation as immutable as heterosexuality ... a deep-rooted predisposition ... that becomes clear during puberty and does not change.
The above idea was expressed with respect to homosexuality decades ago and since has become left-wing dogma. The thinking is that if someone was born that way, if the behavior is natural for him and he didnt choose his feelings, how could it be wrong?
Yet the opening quoted line wasnt penned decades ago its only two years old. And homosexuality wasnt the focus.
It was about pedophilia.
Here is the complete quotation, as published by the Los Angeles Times on Jan. 14, 2013:
Like many forms of sexual deviance, pedophilia once was thought to stem from psychological influences early in life. Now, many experts view it as a sexual orientation as immutable as heterosexuality or homosexuality. It is a deep-rooted predisposition limited almost entirely to men that becomes clear during puberty and does not change.
Should we view this as just a clinical analysis, without considering what may be implied and certainly will be inferred? After all, if the inborn argument is valid, then its silly to think it doesnt apply to other innate urges and inclinations. If its not valid, however, then its equally silly to accept it with respect to any supposedly innate inclination, such as homosexuality. Lets delve into it.
The same social scientists telling us homosexuality is innate also claim that psychopaths are born and not made. Does this make psychopathy a legitimate state of being? And what if its found that some people are born with homicidal instincts? Would it be okay for them to commit murder?
Some may now say that murder is different because it hurts another person. (Of course, others contend that indulging in deviant sexual behavior with another also hurts the person.) But this is a change in yardstick that renders the inborn argument irrelevant. After all, whether or not an action reflects inborn urges tells us nothing about whether or not it hurts another.
Stating the obvious, the inborn argument could be applied to anything inborn. Logically translated it says: If a feeling is innate, the actions associated with it are okay. This eliminates morality completely and replaces it with biological determinism (BD). This is why accepting the BD argument means accepting everything that can be proven to be inborn even if its pedophilia, bestiality, or murder. Its just a slightly more sophisticated way of saying If it feels good, do it. But biology does not determine morality.
Of course, left-wing activists also rely on if it feels good, do it to formulate argumentation, which is why they never do apply the BD argument consistently. While theyre perfectly content to utilize it to advance their pet behavior, they then turn around and scoff at the notion that, despite BD having been lent credibility as a guiding principle, it could be used by others to promote pedophilia or bestiality.
This emotion-based modus operandi is why left-wing activists continually contradict themselves. The theological version of the BD argument, frequently uttered by homosexual activists, is God doesnt make mistakes. Yet those taking this tack dont dispute that mans many inborn abnormalities, such as cleft lip, Spina bifida, Down syndrome, club foot, and Tay-Sachs disease, are defects. Nor do they claim, as some believers did in ages past, that these abnormalities are divine punishment for sin.
Even more to the point, if activists say that homosexual behavior is okay because God doesnt make mistakes, how do they explain their advocacy of so-called gender-reassignment surgery? Shouldnt they then conclude that if God wanted a person to be a member of the opposite sex, He would have created him that way?
Then theres this study indicating that racial bias is innate. Will the Left now move to rescind anti-discrimination law?
If leftists actually believed in God (as opposed to just using Him for a ploy), they might realize theres much He doesnt ordain and that our fallen nature has corrupted our minds as well as our bodies. In reality, though, what they realize is dictated by the political imperatives of the moment.
As another example of shape-shifting judgments, consider the reportage on NYC mayor Bolshevik Bill de Blasios wife, Chirlane McCray. Shes universally and frequently described, as ABC does here, as a former lesbian. But according to leftist dogma, isnt at issue an inborn orientation that does not change? Shouldnt she be characterized as a lesbian living a lie in marriage or a woman denying her true feelings?
Of course, history tells us that mans sexuality is quite malleable and that it certainly can change. Homosexuality was institutionalized in ancient Spartan military camps, and it was common for Athenian men to chase after adolescent boys. Are we to conclude that most all ancient Greeks had a gay gene?
Also note that science has discovered no such genetic link. In fact, this 2001 Columbia University study found that among identical twins (who share identical genetics), the same-sex attraction experienced by one was shared by the other only 10 percent of the time.
Despite this, California and New Jersey have seen fit to ban homosexual conversion therapy for minors. Perhaps voters in those states may want to consider that, as with sexual feelings, politicians can be changed.
And since minds and hearts can as well, we should be careful what arguments we legitimize. To abide by the principle of biological determinism the force governing animals would beget an animalistic society. Remember that acceptance of BD implies theres nothing better namely morality to govern our behavior. And a people embracing the notion It if feels good, do it, one day just may decide that it feels better to kill homosexuals than to tolerate them.
Feelings dont always inform about facts. And biology never determines morality.
Sexuality is only immutable if you’re not heterosexual. If you are hetero, there is always the possibility you can be converted. But the door does not swing both ways.
“Is Pedophilia Okay if Youre Born That Way?”
No. Next question.
Is castrating pedophiles okay if you were born that way?
Is polygamy okay if you’re born that way? Is serial murder okay if you’re born that way? Is bank robbery okay if you’re born that way?
We must wait for the decisions of our black robed masters: What’s do the Federal Judges decree?
If a serial killer was “born that way” how could it be wrong for him to indulge in his hobby? Oh. We already do that. Moslems are tolerated, even celebrated in this society and supported by this society in other lands.
Tolerance at any cost is not a good thing for this nation.
Are you saying that, assuming you are a hetero male, that you could be persuaded to lust after some hairy-legged dude?
‘Stating the obvious, the inborn argument could be applied to anything inborn. Logically translated it says: If a feeling is innate, the actions associated with it are okay. This eliminates morality completely and replaces it with biological determinism (BD). This is why accepting the BD argument means accepting everything that can be proven to be inborn even if its pedophilia, bestiality, or murder. Its just a slightly more sophisticated way of saying If it feels good, do it. But biology does not determine morality.’
Exactly. They’re laying the groundwork for pedophilia to eventually be legalized and enforced approval of it.
To really make Pedophilia “okay”, you need to have studies that prove the pedophiles do not harm children. Frankly, I don’t think anyone would buy that, but I expects to see studies with such vile conclusions nonetheless.
What if an arsonist “was born that way”.
PING!
Quite frankly, people get talked into things all the time. I am sure there are some homos out there who got roped into the lifestyle. I’ve seen girls go back and forth between lesbian and straight, including one who now is married and has 5 kids.
I was born a lesbian and have no control over my impulses.
Thankfully I don’t have to sit everytime I go thr bathroom.
So, there’s that benefit in my life.
So you could be talked into homosexuality?
“For I say unto you that for he who would lead a child into sin better that he tie a millstone around his neck and drown himself in the sea’’. Think that pretty well sums it it. Praise be to The Lord.
Pedophiles are made, not born. Sexual preference develops as the child grows. Scratch the surface of most pedophiles and you’ll find a kid who was sexually abused.
” Remember that acceptance of BD implies theres nothing better namely morality to govern our behavior. And a people embracing the notion It if feels good, do it, one day just may decide that it feels better to kill homosexuals than to tolerate them.”
Lol...In the closet or in the crosshairs!
I’m disposed to kill any pervert who touches any of my children or G/children.
It’s OK though because that compulsion is innate.
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