Posted on 01/22/2015 1:12:44 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
Most U.S. senators now agree on two things about climate change: That it is driven by humans, and that it is not a hoax.
Getting to that point during a series of votes on amendments for Keystone XL pipeline legislation was tortuous for Democrats and Republicans alike.
"I'm not sure that there were any clear expectations, but I think the way the day transpired was productive but it was also fascinating," Sen. Brian Schatz, D-Hawaii, told reporters. "We made good progress today and we were pretty pleased there is an emerging bipartisan group of people who believe climate change is real, is caused by humans and is solvable."
Fifty senators, including five Republicans, agreed that climate change was real, human-induced and solvable on Schatz's amendment, though it failed because it needed 60 votes to pass. The Republicans who backed the amendment were Lamar Alexander of Tennessee, Kelly Ayotte of New Hampshire, Lindsey Graham of South Carolina, Mark Kirk of Illinois and Susan Collins of Maine.
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And this ignorant bunch write our laws.
If they’d just outlaw gravity we could all float around and get places faster.
Bingo!
Of course countries like Red China contribute to environmental problems.
The question is whether the US does. And it does not.
What do you expect a bunch of greedy, thieving politicians to say about climate change? They’re going to say WHATEVER IT TAKES to get them into your wallet. They’re scum.
Just like the left’s approach to crime -
you can’t really make criminals stop being criminals,
so you make an example out of the law abiding (usually conservative) people
by punishing them to the full extent of the law for inadvertently crossing some unknown line.
Way past time to rein-in these idiots.
I would have voted:
1. Yes, climate change is real. It’s been changing since creation. Ice age, tropical age, etc.
2. No, humans do not significantly contribute to it. I consider most climate change to be driven by the sun.
3. Yes, humans do contribute a bit in a localized sense. Smog alerts, pollution, etc., do have an impact on ‘my environment’.
The bottom line is that God placed humans here to be good stewards of the planet and that is true regardless of any provable or unprovable human contribution to any problem.
So, if we can find cleaner and better ways of doing things, then we should pursue them. It is not ‘better’ to say Solar if solar is so much more expensive that it impoverishes people/nations. That’s where it’s at right now.
I suspect the best and cheapest solar heating is free simply because of living nearer to the equator. If it doesn’t get cold, then you don’t have to buy heat.
Here I disagree with Inhofe. Man might just well be able to change climate, but cannot do so by burning hydrocarbon fuels. There are other things people do and have done that could well have changed climate, particularly due to animal management or its lack. It may in fact be Biblically documented. I have a lot to say about that, but it isn't published yet. I have a climatologist reviewing that part of the book now.
I don’t think we are capable of changing the climate, leave that to God.
We need to be good about not over harvesting the oceans and polluting our drinking water. That IMO is where people should focus.
He causes the wind to blow and the rain to fall. However, He also says that if we don't keep his Law desertification will ensue. That implies a mechanism.
We need to be good about not over harvesting the oceans and polluting our drinking water. That IMO is where people should focus.
That's not all of it by any stretch. There is a fundamental nomadic pastoral theme infusing the Hebrew that has been missed traditionally, in part because although the Torah was written by shepherds, it was interpreted by scribes and priests (particularly Ezra) over 500 years later. There is a lot in it that is regarded as mystical that is probably much more tangible... to a shepherd. Cain missed it completely.
We are Cain.
And maybe earth can be considered purgatory and we should instead live for heaven.
Frankly, a person can believe in climate change and still want nothing to do with all the dictatorial solutions being proposed.
And they'll be painting it on a piece of hide waiting for Ogg to finish chipping the new spear points.
It is almost time to burn the books again and start over. It seems to happen every time a culture deems itself so intelligent it forgets the basics and the leaders wallow in decadence.
It has been that way since 51% of the population constituted a protected minority.
Somehow, that does not seem to be directly proportional to the increase in the number of productive orifices, as evidenced by population growth.
Of course, that makes no allowance for the increase in the anal retentive faction.
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