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Birmingham laughs off Fox News commentator’s caliphate claim
Guardian UK ^ | January 12, 2015 | by Robert Booth

Posted on 01/12/2015 2:21:12 PM PST by Oldeconomybuyer

The train passengers’ calm consumption of crisps and bored checking of emails on the 11.43am to Birmingham suggested they hadn’t heard the news. Their destination, a city of more than a million people, had shockingly become Britain’s first caliphate and a no-go zone for non-Muslims – at least, according to an “expert” on Rupert Murdoch’s US-based Fox News channel.

“There are actual cities like Birmingham that are totally Muslim where non-Muslims just simply don’t go in,” Steve Emerson, a commentator on terrorism, told millions of viewers on Sunday.

Raja Mohammed Ishtiaq, co-owner of the Raja Brothers grocery set up in 1977 by Pakistani immigrants, said Emerson’s comments were embarrassing and insulting. “We are not in cuckoo land,” he said. “There are lots of Muslims here but this is a multicultural society and there are beautiful links between the different religions. How can they say this? Birmingham is one of the stable communities.”

A few doors down, the Lahore restaurant – specialising in cuisine from Pakistan’s Taliban-controlled north-west frontier region – welcomes a mixed crowd. Sitting beneath a picture of the Pakistani cricketer turned politician Imran Khan, a white 31-year-old civil servant who asked not to be named said he came here daily for lunch, and sometimes dinner too.

As he polished off his kebab, his message was simple: “It is not a no-go area and there’s nothing to suggest it is becoming one.”

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: birmingham; caliphate; dhimmitude; foxnews; nogoshariazone; rop
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To: manc

And were educated and cared for there......courtesy of the frikkin’ high taxes.


61 posted on 01/12/2015 5:47:40 PM PST by RushIsMyTeddyBear (The White House is now known as "Casa Blanca".)
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To: the scotsman

If they don’t allow comments, they are worth zip.


62 posted on 01/12/2015 6:15:18 PM PST by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: RushIsMyTeddyBear

EXACTLY.
Hope you had a good New Year and Christmas.


63 posted on 01/12/2015 7:06:15 PM PST by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
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To: manc

Bookmark


64 posted on 01/12/2015 9:33:50 PM PST by publius911 (Formerly Publius6961)
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To: DoodleDawg

We could do three: (1) muslim guy; (2) typical British guy and (3) Jewish guy.

Love to see the result.


65 posted on 01/13/2015 6:32:55 AM PST by Jewbacca (The residents of Iroquois territory may not determine whether Jews may live in Jerusalem)
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To: the scotsman

“And if the result isn’t as violent and bigoted as you think?.”

Then we’ll know the answer.

Having tested this myself accidentally on the tube more than a few times, I think my hypothesis is sound.

But Muslims did this a lot at NASCAR rallies throughout the South USA and were disappointed to find NASCAR people are open and accepting, so we could be surprised.


66 posted on 01/13/2015 6:36:40 AM PST by Jewbacca (The residents of Iroquois territory may not determine whether Jews may live in Jerusalem)
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To: the scotsman

I know. I was raised around Scots all my life. My people were Irish. In the slang of the British Isles do know what a ‘’bum’’ is?


67 posted on 01/13/2015 7:57:56 AM PST by jmacusa (Liberalism defined: When mom and dad go away for the weekend and the kids are in charge.)
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To: jmacusa

Yes, lol.


68 posted on 01/13/2015 9:56:28 AM PST by the scotsman
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To: Jewbacca

And as an actual Brit, who knows the city of Birmingham well, I think your hypothesis isn’t sound. The UK isn’t the US, Birmingham isn’t Dearborn or a Paris ghetto.


69 posted on 01/13/2015 9:58:30 AM PST by the scotsman
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To: Jewbacca

I am afraid you’d be disappointed, if you expect to see hordes of fanatic Muslims in that city bashing whites and Jews. Birmingham has been multi-racial since the 50’s, and everyone gets on well. By and large. There is a healthy Jewish population that dosent get oppressed and beaten up.

Birmingham is actually famous in the UK and Ireland not for racial problems, but for being an ugly concrete carbuncle, and having a dull horrible accent. Its lampooned for a lack of culture.


70 posted on 01/13/2015 10:01:57 AM PST by the scotsman
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To: the scotsman
Birmingham is actually famous in the UK and Ireland not for racial problems, but for being an ugly concrete carbuncle, and having a dull horrible accent. Its lampooned for a lack of culture.

They only gave the world, Black Sabbath, The Move and ELO.

71 posted on 01/13/2015 10:06:38 AM PST by dfwgator
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To: dfwgator

I love all three, esp The Move.

Other bands include Spencer Davis, Moody Blues, Traffic, Judas Priest, UB40, Duran Duran, Dexy’s Midnight Runners, Joan Armatrading and Fine Young Cannibals. More recently bands like Ocean Colour Scene and The Streets.

I don’t and never have lampooned it, but some do. The claim is that it dosent have a definable identifiable culture, like London, Glasgow, Manchester, Liverpool or Belfast. I think that’s unfair. A lot of it is just London snobbery tbh.


72 posted on 01/13/2015 10:12:22 AM PST by the scotsman
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To: dfwgator
They only gave the world, Black Sabbath, The Move and ELO.

And UB40, Cadbury, BSA, and Preston tools.

That said, Leicester city, Coventry, and London's Park Lane leading toward Paddington Station are the deepest darkest paki lands in Blighty my eyes have seen.

73 posted on 01/13/2015 10:13:34 AM PST by Lovely-Day-For-A-Guinness (Eenie meanie, chili beanie, the spirits are about to speak....)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

——We are not in cuckoo land-—

Paki land is 5 or 6 notches below cuckoo land


74 posted on 01/13/2015 10:16:00 AM PST by bert ((K.E.; N.P.; GOPc.;+12, 73, ..... Obama is public enemy #1)
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To: the scotsman

I lived in londontown long ago so I’m quite dated

But I like your posts

However I do think the bike cops watching Charlie were indeed unarmed

But yes most continental cops are armed

Heavily so at airports since 70s


75 posted on 01/13/2015 10:17:07 AM PST by wardaddy (glenn beck is a nauseous politically correct conservative on LSD)
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To: jmacusa

Ass

Same in Brasil oddly

Major thong maker Bum Bum


76 posted on 01/13/2015 10:21:16 AM PST by wardaddy (glenn beck is a nauseous politically correct conservative on LSD)
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To: Vermont Lt

As in Scotland !


77 posted on 01/13/2015 10:39:43 AM PST by Churchillspirit (9/11/2001 and 9/11/2012: NEVER FORGET.)
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To: the scotsman

Me old Irish granny couldn’t get enough of swatting me on it. I was a bit of a hair raiser when I was a wee one.


78 posted on 01/13/2015 11:54:14 AM PST by jmacusa (Liberalism defined: When mom and dad go away for the weekend and the kids are in charge.)
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To: the scotsman

“Birmingham has been multi-racial since the 50’s, and everyone gets on well. By and large. There is a healthy Jewish population that dosent get oppressed and beaten up.”

Does the “healthy Jewish population” go the synagogue that was vandalized to the tune of $50,000 (US) damage?

http://www.birminghammail.co.uk/news/local-news/vandals-attack-on-birmingham-synagogue-causes-191002

You know, the one where the three Birmingham terrorists attempted a mass murder?

http://www.eurojewcong.org/united-kingdom/8970-birmingham-terrorists-who-envisaged-synagogue-attack-found-guilty.html

Maybe they shop at Tesco in Birmingham, that was ransacked for carrying kosher goods?

http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/184111#.VLV2mXuYF8E

Of course there is the stabbing of a little Jewish boy for being Jewish (Stamford Hill, admittedly)

http://antisemitism.org.il/article/91666/orthodox-jew-stabbed

And the stabbing murder of a child on the bus, the beatings of a woman a child (London suburb), too many to list:

http://antisemitism.org.il/article/90844/2-london-hasidic-boys-and-woman-beaten-unprovoked-antisemitic-attack

Of course you know this. And yet you lie.


79 posted on 01/13/2015 12:01:34 PM PST by Jewbacca (The residents of Iroquois territory may not determine whether Jews may live in Jerusalem)
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To: Jewbacca

Do you understand the phrase by and large?. I have always said on FR that the UK does have a Muslim problem, what I and other UK freepers say is that its not the UK-threatening, Muslim conquest level people in the US think it is. No British freeper denies there is a serious problem, least of all me. So no I dont ‘lie’. What I do is try and tell you the truth, giving you a fair and genuine viewpoint without Fox/Talk radio/US hysteria.

I have also said that Birmingham has a Muslim issue (in another thread), but its a city of almost 1.1m people, most of whom DO live with each other in peace. Your own reply came up with two (appalling) instances, and another two from London. We are talking about Birmingham. London is another city and another issue and another thread.

Yes, there is a minority of extreme Muslims in the city, and yes they have caused trouble, but that dosent negate what I said. The (small) Jewish community historically has suffered no problems until recently, except for the incident you posted. As disgusting as the synagogue incident was, lets not turn this into a pogrom.

I know the city, I know how bad it is. And how bad it isn’t.


80 posted on 01/13/2015 1:37:32 PM PST by the scotsman
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