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The Dumbest 57 Seconds Ever On TV?
National Review ^ | 1/8/2015 | Jonah Goldberg

Posted on 01/08/2015 1:57:12 PM PST by Servant of the Cross

Adam Baldwin linked to this MSNBC clip with a succinct tweet ”Spot the morons/cowards.”

Video at link ...

All due respect to Adam, but his understatement is almost a scandal. We’ve posted a lot of incredibly stupid sound bites from MSNBC and other places around here, but I’m not sure I’ve ever seen a dumber exchange. I don’t know who the guy is making the astoundingly obtuse comparison between Jerry Falwell and a bunch of cold-blooded murderers, but as incandescently stupid as that analogy is it’s eclipsed by Wagner’s smug, knowing nods as he talks.

If I follow her response correctly she is saying that we focus on anti-Muslim blasphemy disproportionately because it is so much more “controversial” and “incendiary.”

Well, uh, yes. I guess that’s true. But the reason mockery of Islam is more controversial is because people get killed over it!

To compare Falwell’s lawsuit to these murderers isn’t just astoundingly, jaw-droppingly, stupid. Doing so misses just about every important moral, legal and factual distinction that one can miss. But Wagner doesn’t think that’s good enough. She had to take it a half-step farther and really emphasize how unfair it is that people make it seem like only Muslims are thin-skinned about such things. ​

(I will indulge as a matter of charity, that Wagner merely mispoke as she tried to couch reality in MSNBC-friendly euphemisms. “Controversial” and “incendiary” might be her way of saying “barbaric terrorism.” But even if that’s the case, it doesn’t excuse her from failing to respond to this idiotic comparison with the words: “How dare you sir, that is outrageous.”)

I was never a huge fan of Falwell’s, but I always thought his lawsuit had some merit, and was at least understandable in human terms. Also, for what it’s worth, I don’t think it had much to do with his religion. He filed a personal defamation lawsuit, I’m pretty sure. But here’s the thing: when he lost the lawsuit you know what he did? Nothing. Oh I’m sure he griped about it. Wouldn’t you? What he didn’t do was lead a goon squad to Hustler’s offices and murder Larry Flynt and his staff. That’s a pretty meaningful distinction, I think.


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KEYWORDS: dumb; msnbc; redundant
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Dumbest ever is quite an exaggeration, especially for msnbc. But it is certainly classic. Islamic jihadists are laughing their arses off at this.
1 posted on 01/08/2015 1:57:12 PM PST by Servant of the Cross
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To: Servant of the Cross

NBC defends TERRORISM daily, and substitutes
next week’s possible weather for real news.


2 posted on 01/08/2015 1:59:41 PM PST by Diogenesis ("When a crime is unpunished, the world is unbalanced.")
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To: Servant of the Cross

Goldberg’s apparently never seen “The View.”


3 posted on 01/08/2015 1:59:44 PM PST by hlmencken3 (“I paid for an argument, but you’re just contradicting!”)
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To: Servant of the Cross

Liberals are crazy.


4 posted on 01/08/2015 2:00:11 PM PST by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: Servant of the Cross
Falwell’s lawsuit

The lawsuit was 34 years ago, and Jerry passed on to his eternal reward 8 years ago. They need a fresh schtick.

5 posted on 01/08/2015 2:01:47 PM PST by ConservingFreedom (A goverrnment strong enough to impose your standards is strong enough to ban them.)
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The lawsuit was 34 years ago, and Jerry passed on to his eternal reward 8 years ago. They need a fresh schtick.

True Dat!

6 posted on 01/08/2015 2:04:33 PM PST by Servant of the Cross (the Truth will set you free)
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To: hlmencken3

probably a good thing


7 posted on 01/08/2015 2:05:42 PM PST by GeronL
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To: Servant of the Cross

Massive Stupidity, Nothing But Crap


8 posted on 01/08/2015 2:07:41 PM PST by bigbob (The best way to get a bad law repealed is to enforce it strictly. Abraham Lincoln)
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To: Servant of the Cross

Jane tweets?!?

KYPD


9 posted on 01/08/2015 2:09:13 PM PST by petro45acp (Grubbers "stupid" electorate is starting to look very much like Romney's 47%. Just sayin...)
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Falwell’s lawsuit

I think that case was decided wrongly. Falwell was alive at the time of the libel against him. If Mohammad were still alive, and the French publication knowingly printed something libelous, I think he should be able to have an action.
10 posted on 01/08/2015 2:09:51 PM PST by Dr. Sivana (There is no salvation in politics)
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To: Servant of the Cross

Every time you think you’ve seen the dumbest thing ever from the left just wait a day or two and they’ll outdo themselves every time.

They really are quite dumb and what proves that is that they are always the last to know how dumb the things they say and do are.


11 posted on 01/08/2015 2:15:01 PM PST by Bullish (He's just NOT presidential material.)
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just another “make believe” session with people who look and act like they know what they are talking about (Press Corp & their guests) - all the while protecting the very machine (Islam) that will grind them up and spit them out...


12 posted on 01/08/2015 2:15:40 PM PST by BCW (ARMIS EXPOSCERE PACEM)
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You can make stuff like this up......but no one would believe it


13 posted on 01/08/2015 2:19:48 PM PST by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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To: Servant of the Cross

What?
Jerry Falwell shot Larry Flynt?
Just damn!


14 posted on 01/08/2015 2:22:44 PM PST by Repeal The 17th (We have met the enemy, and he is us.)
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If Mohammad were still alive, and the French publication knowingly printed something libelous, I think he should be able to have an action.

Interesting point. Two thoughts on it:

1. As a public figure, Mohammed would have the bar set pretty high with respect to winning a libel case. Beyond that, he'd have to prove damages. (Note: IANAL. Not even close.)

2. Truth is a defense against libel. If you call him a murdering pedophile, all it means is you've read his book.

15 posted on 01/08/2015 2:24:52 PM PST by Slings and Arrows ("Clapping the Blues" - http://youtu.be/0bmAJHHqfIw)
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16 posted on 01/08/2015 2:27:20 PM PST by Impala64ssa (You call me an islamophobe like it's a bad thing.)
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To: Slings and Arrows

If I’m not mistaken, he could neither read nor write. Others did his “writing” for him.


17 posted on 01/08/2015 2:40:07 PM PST by DB
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To: Servant of the Cross

>Islamic jihadists are laughing their arses off at this.<

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Muslims have been ROTFLTAO ever since 9/11/2001, especially the Saudis, and will continue to do so until they have subdued the West.


18 posted on 01/08/2015 2:40:07 PM PST by 353FMG
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To: Servant of the Cross

The entire MSM is desperate grasping at straws the people are awakening to their progressive liberal democrat communist marxist fascist elitist ways, they are quickly becoming irrelevant and have no clue what to do about it, if they recognize it at all.


19 posted on 01/08/2015 2:54:19 PM PST by PoloSec ( Believe the Gospel: how that Christ died for our sins, was buried and rose again)
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To: DB

I’ve heard that too, but the principles would still apply.


20 posted on 01/08/2015 3:29:35 PM PST by Slings and Arrows ("Clapping the Blues" - http://youtu.be/0bmAJHHqfIw)
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