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Is the fix in? Has the establishment GOP already chosen the Republican nominee?
townhall.com ^ | 1/4/15 | Nick Sorrentino

Posted on 01/04/2015 3:40:06 PM PST by cotton1706

It is truly amazing is how hostile the leadership of the Republican Party is to the people who actually make up the Republican Party.

I can tell you first hand that the establishment GOP types dislike the libertarian/conservative coalition aka The Tea Party at least as much as the Democrats do. Probably more.

Why? Because the libertarian/conservative coalition is a real threat to their power. Do you honestly think that the GOP as it is currently constituted wants to reduce the size of government? Not a chance. A d this is why the party has been moving since 2012 to mitigate the influence of average people. Many folks who have “woken up” since Mitt Romney’s defeat may not know of the chicanery at the 2012 convention. The grass roots, primarily represented by Ron Paul and his delegates, were essentially shut out in a very ugly fashion. And this was just the beginning

The Ron Paul people in the states outwitted the establishment people in the primary process to a large degree in 2012. They got small government people elected to party positions long controlled by party hacks. As such the big shot hacks in DC have sought to systematically change the nomination and primary process to mitigate the small government wing in 2016.

The GOP believes that the “rank and file” will vote for their candidate no matter what. That they can get Bush, Christie, or Romney (Romney!) the nomination and that the people will fall in line and shut up because they so fear another Democrat in the White House. It’s a deeply cynical play. It is as obvious as it is callous. But this strategy has one huge flaw.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Politics/Elections; US: Ohio
KEYWORDS: 2016; 2016elections; 2016gopprimary; beltway; conservative; elections; establishment; gope; gopestablishment; jeb; jebbush; jebbush2016; johnboehner; memebuilding; nojebbush2016; ohio; rinos; speakerjohnboehner
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To: EQAndyBuzz

you walked into that one. never engage with a paulbot. nothing good (or sane) ever happens.


41 posted on 01/04/2015 4:50:26 PM PST by JohnBrowdie (http://forum.stink-eye.net)
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To: Hot Tabasco
Yep, that Primary thing is where all the folks go out and vote for their favorite guy and those whose guy didn't win decide to stay home and pout and give us an Obama......….

That Ruling Class intimidation tactic from your Oligarchy to Conservatives in order to get us into line behind your corrupt party don't fly no more pal.

Party over Principle People like you are no different than Obama and his party. You are the ones who actually give us Obamas.

42 posted on 01/04/2015 4:53:27 PM PST by INVAR ("Fart for liberty, fart for freedom and fart proudly!" - Benjamin Franklin)
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To: cotton1706; AuH2ORepublican; BillyBoy; fieldmarshaldj; Free Vulcan
The Ron Paul people in the states outwitted the establishment people in the primary process to a large degree in 2012. They got small government people elected to party positions long controlled by party hacks.

They got Paulbot kooks elected to party positions. No improvment.

43 posted on 01/04/2015 4:56:20 PM PST by Impy (They pull a knife, you pull a gun. That's the CHICAGO WAY, and that's how you beat the rats!)
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To: JohnBrowdie

That’s not the point. The point is that it’s even harder to challenge the GOPe than it used to be.


44 posted on 01/04/2015 5:03:12 PM PST by 9YearLurker
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To: JohnBrowdie
As a state delegate, I definitely have to state that I liked the “Paulbots” a whole lot more than the “Romneybots.” They Paulbots are young, vital, enthusiastic, full of energy, well informed and well educated and they are the future of this party, and in the years to come, they will be the party. The old guard will fade away. The Romney people — well it is better that I not say anything.
45 posted on 01/04/2015 5:03:26 PM PST by erkelly
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To: cotton1706

It could be the group that thought they were coronating the next Speaker.


46 posted on 01/04/2015 5:03:53 PM PST by Ingtar (Is this the Ebola and rumors of Ebola mentioned in the Bible?)
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To: Jumper

No thanks, time to leave!


47 posted on 01/04/2015 5:04:32 PM PST by erkelly
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To: JohnBrowdie

I know nothing about Ron Paul except that he hates Israel. That alone would eliminate him fom serving.


48 posted on 01/04/2015 5:42:38 PM PST by EQAndyBuzz (I'm from the Soylent Corporation and I am here to help.)
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To: BobL

With the help of the MSM, Iowa and Red Hampshire will come thru for the GOPe.


49 posted on 01/04/2015 5:47:06 PM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: central_va

“It’s all about the money boys”


50 posted on 01/04/2015 5:48:27 PM PST by DJlaysitup (...oh well...)
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To: nickcarraway

I have decided to no longer hold my nose and vote straight GOP ticket. If it’s not someone I want on the ballot I will write in my choice.


51 posted on 01/04/2015 6:05:37 PM PST by TonyM
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To: cotton1706

Yes, the fix is in, and they call him “Jebbie”. Boehner will be the permanent chairman of the OH-based convention that nominates Jebbie.


52 posted on 01/04/2015 6:54:44 PM PST by Theodore R. (Liberals keep winning; so the American people must now be all-liberal all the time.)
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To: cotton1706

“I can tell you first hand that the establishment GOP types dislike the libertarian/conservative coalition aka The Tea Party at least as much as the Democrats do. Probably more.”

Everyone on Free Republic would do well to take that quote to heart. It is a true statement.

I don’t like Ron Paul, and I’m not a libertarian.

The GOP Establishment is SCARED TO DEATH of the Tea Party. That is why they trashed Palin. And that is why one of the GOPe are pushing the IRS scandal. They wanted the Tea Party shut down just as bad as the Dems did.


53 posted on 01/04/2015 6:57:15 PM PST by Bryan24 (When in doubt, move to the right..........)
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To: Hot Tabasco

“I thought there was a thing called a “Primary election”.......... “

Not really. The RNC will place all the money, time, resources, personal support, etc. to their anointed candidate. All the other candidates will basically get nothing in comparison.


54 posted on 01/04/2015 6:58:46 PM PST by CodeToad (Islam should be outlawed and treated as a criminal enterprise!)
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To: cotton1706

Wellllll.....let’s just see if we can either unseat Boehner or at least give them a wake up call.


55 posted on 01/04/2015 7:03:29 PM PST by G Larry (Amnesty imposes SLAVE WAGES on LEGAL immigrants & minorities)
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To: BobL
Our best hope is that Warren and Hillary have a catfight...

No, our best hope IS to "change the rules".

The conservative Republicans in those open primary states need to get busy and fix their primaries so only Republican voters can pick their own candidates.

If you're a Republican, you should get on the state committee, or find some allies who already are on state committee and rattle some cages. If you're a stubborn "independent conservative" maybe you could help your conservative Republican friends to fix this gawdawful mess.

56 posted on 01/04/2015 7:39:21 PM PST by ROCKLOBSTER (Celebrate "Republicans Freed the Slaves Month")
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To: erkelly
I believe it will take just as long as it did for the Chi-town wing of the DNC to bring Hillary and Oprah from mere underlings to the top of both politics and TV; we need just such a long term plan. The LEFT has taken Mao's Long March to Victory in political and MSM.
57 posted on 01/04/2015 10:40:40 PM PST by Jumper
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To: cotton1706

“But this strategy has one huge flaw”.
That’s right
I will NOT again be snookered in to voting for another horse shit RINO.


58 posted on 01/05/2015 4:19:40 AM PST by Joe Boucher (The F.B.I. Is a division of holders Justice Dept. (Nuff said))
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