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At last: Ted Cruz wins a 2016 presidential straw poll - Rand Paul in second place
The Washington Times ^ | December 29, 2014 | Jennifer Harper

Posted on 12/29/2014 6:26:57 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

A certain Texas Republican still has plenty of fans. Sen. Ted Cruz has won the Federalist Today Presidential Straw Poll with 26 percent of the nearly one thousand votes cast. The field included 16 potential candidates. “Placing a respectable second and third, Senator Rand Paul (22 percent) and Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker (16 percent) showed that they also have considerable support among the ‘lovers of freedom and anxious for the fray’ Federalist faithful,” report David Corbin and Matt Parks, two analysts for The Federalist - a learned and vibrant online journal.

“The political insider would, undoubtedly, not be impressed. Good luck getting Senators Cruz or Paul elected President of the United States. Any such insurgent’s campaign will be undone by a press that favors Democrats, a bare-knuckles Republican establishment that favors milque-toast candidates, and a bewildered flyover electorate conditioned to favor one flavor-of-the-month insurgent presidential candidate after another, to the detriment of any effective insurgent candidacy,” say Mssrs. Corbin and Parks.

“These same insiders would have no problem envisioning a scenario in which insurgent Democrat Elizabeth Warren, establishment Democrat Hillary Clinton, or establishment Republicans Jeb Bush, Mitt Romney, or Chris Christie win the presidency. Ruling-class smugness aside, these folks have a point: playing by the normal rules, the least likely outcome in 2016 is a victory by a Republican insurgent, even though 40 percent of Americans consistently identify themselves as conservatives (twice the typical number of progressives) But who says we have to play by their rules?” the pair ask....

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtontimes.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government; Politics/Elections; US: Massachusetts; US: Texas; US: Wisconsin
KEYWORDS: 2016election; chrischristie; cromnibus; cruz; davidcorbin; doddfrank; election2016; elizabethwarren; fauxahontas; federalisttoday; jebbush; lieawatha; massachusetts; mattparks; mittromney; polls; randpaul; scottwalker; tedcruz; texas; wisconsin
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To: CharleysPride

Ever heard of “thin ice” new person?


41 posted on 12/30/2014 12:32:27 AM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (The question isn't who is going to let me; it's who is going to stop me.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Maybe, is that the same as meaningless straw polls?


42 posted on 12/30/2014 12:47:28 AM PST by CharleysPride (non chiedere cio che non si puo prendere)
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To: CharleysPride; darkwing104; Old Sarge; hellinahandcart

What was your screen name here before you were banned the last time?


43 posted on 12/30/2014 12:56:32 AM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (The question isn't who is going to let me; it's who is going to stop me.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Friend, if you have a problem with me you can speak it, and I would welcome your honesty.

If I have expressed views that you find too threatening to contemplate, do what you have to do. I would welcome your words but if it’s your club you wish to wield, go ahead and purge away!


44 posted on 12/30/2014 1:12:50 AM PST by CharleysPride (non chiedere cio che non si puo prendere)
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To: SoConPubbie

i did it time and again regarding bh0bama and mrubio. tcruz is just the same.

hell, tcruz wasn’t even born in the freakin country.

do your own homework. it’s not difficult.


45 posted on 12/30/2014 2:26:09 AM PST by sten (fighting tyranny never goes out of style)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

0bama wasn’t eligible as he was born a US citizen (by being born on in hawaii) and a british citizen (via his father). his mother wasn’t in the US for more then 5 years after her 14th birthday when she gave birth, so she couldn’t bestow any citizenship rights.

mrubio was born on the soil to 2 cuban citizens. at birth, he was a US and cuban citizen.

tcruz was born in canada to a US mother and a cuban father. at birth, he had the choice of US, canadian, and cuban citizenships.

as for what makes someone a natural born citizen, it’s fairly obvious and was common parlance when used in the Constitution. the term is used to describe someone as being a ‘natural born citizen’ of a country... as there were no alternatives. they simply had to be a citizen of that country.

why does this matter? the founders discussed it. they used the phrase in an effort to insure that the person holding the most powerful office in the land wouldn’t have any split allegiances, at least by birth.

the only ones confused about the definition are those trying to shoe-horn in their favored candidate.

it’s tough to call yourself a conservative if you’ll gladly drop the basic tenets of the Constitution when it becomes inconvenient.


46 posted on 12/30/2014 2:38:55 AM PST by sten (fighting tyranny never goes out of style)
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To: sten; Jim Robinson

Tell the site owner that.


47 posted on 12/30/2014 2:40:33 AM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (The question isn't who is going to let me; it's who is going to stop me.)
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To: Yaelle
Former Governor Palin is probably the most influential conservative woman in North America if not the world, her Tweets or Facebook posts can launch 1,000 stories, she has a television show, a studio in her backyard built by Fox News, three New York Times best-selling books, is considered in the top 100 influential people by the Smithsonian and Time magazine, is a millionaire several times over and has addressed leaders and influential groups of several nations. I wish someone would "Palinize" me!
48 posted on 12/30/2014 2:46:07 AM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (The question isn't who is going to let me; it's who is going to stop me.)
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To: CharleysPride

What kind of a fraud are you? Ron Paul and Ted Cruz are similar how? Please explain. Or would you rather make your imbecilic post and run?


49 posted on 12/30/2014 7:21:09 AM PST by alstewartfan (A bear won't treat you so You're satisfied to know When he chews you up he still respects you! AL S)
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To: sten

Bullcrap. Cruz was BORN a US citizen, through his mom. I don’t understand your twisted logic. Since Ted lived in America, how could anyone believe that he may have chosen, as a baby, to have “split allegiances”.


50 posted on 12/30/2014 7:29:48 AM PST by alstewartfan (A bear won't treat you so You're satisfied to know When he chews you up he still respects you! AL S)
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To: Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America
Obama voters will say “I should’ve voted for Romney last time and I’m not going to make that same mistake AGAIN”. Romney has a strong advantage because this is the mindset that will prevail if he runs again.

Sadly, your read of the stupids is correct. This is how they FEEL (since they don't THINK, as we understand the word).

Buyer's remorse over Obola gets transmorgrified into possible redemption by a Willard vote.

51 posted on 12/30/2014 8:18:11 AM PST by Old Sarge (Its the Sixties all over again, but with crappy music...)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

And for all of that, she won’t run again.


52 posted on 12/30/2014 8:18:58 AM PST by Old Sarge (Its the Sixties all over again, but with crappy music...)
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To: alstewartfan

you can become a US at birth by either being born on the soil or having at least one US citizen parent that had spent more then 5 years in the US since they were 14.

as such... if prince william and kate flew to NY and delivered their child while on vacation, the child would be a US citizen AS WELL AS the future king of england. this is EXACTLY the situation the founders wanted to insure against.

as such, they used the phrase ‘natural born citizen’ as a requirement for the president, the only position in the country with such a requirement. this would disqualify william and kate’s kid as he had multiple citizenship possibilities at birth. this same test can be applied to bh0bama, mrubio, bjindahl and tcruz.

once again, a natural born citizen is a citizen naturally... as there are no alternatives.

it’s that simple and was common parlance (at least in the US and EU) during the time of the founders.


53 posted on 12/30/2014 10:09:10 AM PST by sten (fighting tyranny never goes out of style)
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To: sten

He’s a natural born citizen.


54 posted on 12/30/2014 10:09:44 AM PST by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!!)
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To: sten

The royal example you state is a bastardization of the Constitutional intent. If either William or Kate WAS an American citizen, the child WOULD be American, and eligible for the Presidency. Bob


55 posted on 12/30/2014 10:23:37 AM PST by alstewartfan (But Robin Hood movies Provoke strange emotions That time will not serve to diminish. Al Stewart)
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To: alstewartfan

if kate were a US citizen, the child would still be a british citizen via william. yes, he’d be a US citizen as well... but not naturally as he can choose either.

same with bh0bama, mrubio, bjindahl, and tcruz

most Americans are unfamiliar with this as they were born on the soil to 2 US citizens. myself, i was born on US soil to a US father and a scottish mother. just like bh0bama, i am a US citizen as well as british (it’s not uncommon for people like me to have multiple passports)


56 posted on 12/30/2014 10:29:08 AM PST by sten (fighting tyranny never goes out of style)
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To: sten

I was unaware that Ted had chosen either Canadian or Cuban citizenship for himself.


57 posted on 12/30/2014 10:30:20 AM PST by alstewartfan (But Robin Hood movies Provoke strange emotions That time will not serve to diminish. Al Stewart)
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To: alstewartfan

the fact of having a choice is the issue


58 posted on 12/30/2014 10:33:53 AM PST by sten (fighting tyranny never goes out of style)
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To: Yaelle
I am thrilled that FR officially supports Cruz.

I didn't know that either. Great news!

59 posted on 12/30/2014 10:35:39 AM PST by St_Thomas_Aquinas ( Isaiah 22:22, Matthew 16:19, Revelation 3:7)
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To: sten

Well, it’s pretty clear that Ted has chosen America. I wish I could count upon other Republicans to represent OUR country, and not the internationalists. Bob


60 posted on 12/30/2014 10:38:16 AM PST by alstewartfan (But Robin Hood movies Provoke strange emotions That time will not serve to diminish. Al Stewart)
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