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Minnesota May Start Taxing Drivers
SeeBS ^ | 12-25-14 | SeeBS

Posted on 12/29/2014 2:31:13 PM PST by TurboZamboni

MINNEAPOLIS (WCCO) — Gas prices are finally falling, but those savings might not last long.At least 18 states, including Minnesota, are considering taxing drivers based on distance. Gas prices aren’t the only reason for the idea, since newer cars get better gas mileage. Oregon has a pilot project that will start next year to test the idea. They’re having 5,000 volunteers pay 1.5 cents per mile instead of the 30-cents-per-gallon tax.An electronic device attached to their vehicle will report how far they drive in state.

(Excerpt) Read more at minnesota.cbslocal.com ...


TOPICS: Government; US: Minnesota
KEYWORDS: gas; gps; highways; mileage; minnesota; mn; roads; tax; taxes; tracking; transportation
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To: TurboZamboni

They are already taxed multiple different ways and the libtard solution is......another tax.

Libtards are not going to be happy until they have taxed everyone out of their money. They’re trying damn hard. Damn hard.

Pretty soon they’re going to put a tax on all the taxes, you know a tax for administering all these taxes on your ass.


21 posted on 12/29/2014 3:13:22 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: lacrew

A public BUS does a lot more damage than a car. Consider how heavy that thing is. Consider the gas it burns and consider how often hardly anyone rides it yet it still drives around burning a ton and being very heavy. Talk about bus routes wearing out roadways.


22 posted on 12/29/2014 3:14:54 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: Secret Agent Man
Pawlenty wants Minnesota to test mileage tax MPR ^ | 3-18-09 | tim nelson

Posted on Friday, March 20, 2009 5:35:28 PM by WOBBLY BOB

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2211086/posts

A monthly or yearly odometer check would never work either. For the same reason the gubmint loves income tax withholding- if you had to see how much and pay it, there'd be revolt.

23 posted on 12/29/2014 3:15:36 PM PST by TurboZamboni (Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable.-JFK)
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To: TurboZamboni

The tax would be punitive on small business people, especially those who drive vehicles to various sites regularly, and to the poor. Of course then they’d exempt “the poor” - however they’d define it - and increase it on the middle class, and businesses.


24 posted on 12/29/2014 3:20:07 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: TurboZamboni
Even though I'm against and aghast at all new intrusive point taxes, I must ask why do we need an expensive new electronic gadget to measure miles when all cars already must have an odometer?
Here in NH we have to get an inspection sticker every year and they record the mileage then.

If they make it voluntary to pay either the 30¢/gal or 1.5¢/mile, then if your vehicle gets less than 20mpg, then go for the 1.5¢/mile option, otherwise choose the 30¢/gal option.
But of course, they will never make it that nice, they will probably impose the exact opposite and completely obliterate the economic incentive to buy light cars.
I'm not going to call them "green" because they're not.

25 posted on 12/29/2014 3:30:54 PM PST by BitWielder1 (Corporate Profits are better than Government Waste)
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To: BitWielder1

A yearly odometer check would never work either. For the same reason the gubmint loves income tax withholding- if you got to see how much and where it went and pay it all at once, there’d be revolt.


26 posted on 12/29/2014 3:33:26 PM PST by TurboZamboni (Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable.-JFK)
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To: Secret Agent Man

The buses in my city (Topeka) are so subsidized and under utilized, it would almost be cheaper to subsidize a taxi service.

2013 ridership: 1,202,646

2013 revenue: $8,774,222 (only 1,591,321 was fares...rest is subsidized in various ways).

So the cost per rider trip was: $7.30...of that, the taxpayer paid $5.97.

Adding the additional cost of road damage is a good idea...and in all reality it brings the numbers closer to it making more sense for gubmint just to shell out free taxi rides...and re-hire the 88 employees to do road repair!

Our bus service has also suddenly gotten into the business of handing out passes to school kids who live too close to get free school bus service. I suspect this makes them exempt from paying state fuel taxes...and they are actually paying less than their fair share for road damage.


27 posted on 12/29/2014 3:38:21 PM PST by lacrew
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To: BitWielder1

First of all - the gadget gives the government control over not just how much you use your car...but when you use it. They will use higher rates during rush hour, or in large metro areas, etc.

Secondly, that word “inspection” is a bad word. Not every state has it...and we certainly don’t need a reason to start.


28 posted on 12/29/2014 3:41:30 PM PST by lacrew
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To: lacrew
As a young man, I lived in a state (Iowa) that required annual vehicle inspections before license tabs could be issued.

Astonishingly (sarc), the inspecting garage found my vehicle to be in need of expensive repairs every single year.

29 posted on 12/29/2014 3:49:29 PM PST by daler
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To: lacrew

I foresee a day when they just keep all our money we earn and parcel out how much they decide to give us to live on....according to our ‘needs’.


30 posted on 12/29/2014 3:50:02 PM PST by TurboZamboni (Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable.-JFK)
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To: TurboZamboni

This is insane.


31 posted on 12/29/2014 3:50:59 PM PST by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: TurboZamboni
See Also: Townshend Acts
32 posted on 12/29/2014 4:03:55 PM PST by Rodamala
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To: lacrew

Just wondering about bicycle lanes, part of roadway? Who pays for that?
Who pays for the walkway/nature trails, inside a city?
Where does all the fine money end-up?
The above questions will be answered second Tuesday next week.


33 posted on 12/29/2014 4:11:42 PM PST by GOYAKLA (Waiting for the Golden Screw to be removed from Obama's navel and his a$$ falls off!)
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To: TurboZamboni

When did they stop?

The per mile idea is about as stupid as you can get. The problem is the red diaper doper babies in their Leafs and other no where near “zero” emissions cars.


34 posted on 12/29/2014 4:12:47 PM PST by cableguymn (We need a redneck in the white house....)
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To: TurboZamboni

That is what I expect. I hope that our republican house kills it.

But... ya never know.


35 posted on 12/29/2014 4:13:17 PM PST by cableguymn (We need a redneck in the white house....)
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To: daler
As a young man, I lived in a state (Iowa) that required annual vehicle inspections before license tabs could be issued.

Astonishingly (sarc), the inspecting garage found my vehicle to be in need of expensive repairs every single year.

PA does that now. NJ had state inspection facilities... but diesels older than a certain year are amazingly excempt. So even though I now am in PA... I maintain a DL and registration of my 2 diesels... in NJ.

I don't care how "illegal" it is... if the PoPo have a problem with it I will just give a dumb look and say, "¿Que?"

36 posted on 12/29/2014 4:15:13 PM PST by Rodamala
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To: steve86

it’s an extra tax on top of the tax they already collect. it’s currently 10 bucks.

My county told them to GFY when they doubled it to 10 bucks. So I live in one of a few counties that does not collect that tax.


37 posted on 12/29/2014 4:16:04 PM PST by cableguymn (We need a redneck in the white house....)
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To: GOYAKLA

Bike lanes are paid for by gas taxes...they get a free ride...although some metro areas charge a licensing fee for bikes.

Walkways and trails - usually paid for from city or county funds...viewed as part of the park system, which everyone gets to pay for, whether they use it or not. Unfortunately, more and more of these walkways are now walk/bike paths...and federal highway money sneaks in and pays some of the costs.

Fines - frankly, your city and county rely upon it as a revenue source...its a line item on the revenue side of their budget. In other words, when the good policeman implores you to ‘drive safe’ and not speed anymore, when he hands you your ticket....he doesn’t really mean it at all. The city budget depends on your speeding.


38 posted on 12/29/2014 4:17:50 PM PST by lacrew
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To: Secret Agent Man

I am done working for the year. I am a contract on site computer/pos/network repairman. On top of that I am a power limited electrician (so anything 48 volts or less. aka computer networks, phones, alarms and CCTV) I just figured the miles for the year.

Jan 1 14 115,013 miles
Dec 28 14 229,542 miles

That means my tax bill would be a hair over 1700 bucks.. Now, given what we know about government and this has already been brought up.. what’s the likely hood that this tax will be ON TOP of everything else?


39 posted on 12/29/2014 4:22:06 PM PST by cableguymn (We need a redneck in the white house....)
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To: BitWielder1

same reason for the withholding. if people really knew how much tax they where paying..

The problems in DC would be solved overnight.


40 posted on 12/29/2014 4:23:09 PM PST by cableguymn (We need a redneck in the white house....)
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